Off topic & small talk: Nagging Corner (Page 141)

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Rainmann wrote on 19.06.2023 at 15:45:

Yes that's how I see it too. There were already very often the so-called "Gold Digger" women. Into bed with a celebrity, hoping there will be more out of it, best still get pregnant and you're set. Are of course by far not all women so (God forbid 🙏) but as you have already written there was such a thing more often.

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gamble1 wrote on 19.06.2023 at 15:32:

Rumor has it it has something to do with it because he looks relatively good in Russia


But seriously I like the music of Rammstein and also the provocations because as has been said so well "the world is dirty and I hold the mirror in front of her"

If there is something to the accusations, of course you have to investigate clearly but currently comes always the argument why should the women lie? ... Um quite simply because they are also only humans! Apart from that, the past has shown that women can often accuse men where in the end there was nothing at all to it, of course no one talks about it, because it doesn't sell so well

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Dutch78 wrote on 20.06.2023 at 00:07:

Women can often blame men where in the end there was nothing to it?

Are you serious?
Put the cases where men were falsely accused in relation to the real sexual crimes that were and are committed against women. I deliberately leave out all the sexual assaults, where women are simply touched in places where they do not want to be touched against their will.
Are you really talking about often? What do you think is the ratio of false accusations to real actions?
It is absolutely reprehensible when women try to exercise power by accusing men of something that never happened, but that is only a small percentage. On the other hand, there are many, many more real acts.
Not counting the number of unreported cases, because many women unfortunately still do not dare to report perpetrators, be it out of false shame, fear of the perpetrator, or the society that what has happened is doubted
In addition, there are unfortunately still many women who do not react out of shame due to the blunt slogans a la she forced it because she wore a short skirt, because they thereby falsely, even if only proportionally, unfortunately still seek the blame with themselves.

The women who go backstage to have sex with the singer or with members of the band or even with all at the same time, they can do that, everyone should do what he feels like, as long as it does not violate the law.
But what about the few women who really just want to meet their band and just have a nice evening with them even without sex?
Are these the women who are to blame when sexual acts are performed on them against their will, because they should know what could happen backstage?
Does it then give the other party the right to put the women out of action by administering substances, because the general public "knows" everything that happens backstage, does that mean, conversely, that as a woman you generally have to give up your free will and self-determination as soon as you are backstage?

The presumption of innocence should generally apply to both sides here, this applies to Lindemann, who is currently not treated fairly by most of the media, in that he is already pre-judged in large parts, that also applies on the other hand to all the women who are now expressing themselves, they too must not be deprived of the right to report on what happened from their point of view and they too, just like Lindemann, must not be denied their credibility until the opposite is proven.
However, by mentioning that there are "often" women who falsely accuse men of crimes, you consciously or unconsciously take one side and deny the other side their credibility, or at least doubt it.

However, I miss the required neutrality in this case from all sides and I find that a pity.
This is also nothing personal, I'm just trying to describe my view of things here and many may not even realize that they have already (pre)condemned a side, without consciously wanting it or have noticed.

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Rainmann wrote on 19.06.2023 at 14:32 clock: Already fierce what just for a hunt is made on Till Lindemann. It is still nothing proven but he is made down without end.

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Falcon wrote on 20.06.2023 at 01:31:

From this you can see that media are nothing more than propaganda machines. Somebody powerful will have Lindemann already risen on the feet that they have decided to finish him.

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