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Off topic & small talk: Let's talk about... (Page 2)

Topic created on 28th Jan. 2019 | Page: 2 of 22 | Answers: 214 | Views: 30,372
Tropper
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28th Jan. 2019, at 11:27 am CET#11
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like in kindergarten... don't you @TE have anything better to do?
You definitely invest too much time in this forum...

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SevenEleven
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28th Jan. 2019, at 11:27 am CET#12
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Blubbo33 wrote on 01/28/2019 10:55: It's related to the fact that people are reported here because many are frustrated by gambling and it's all about Paysafecards.

Since there are lotteries here and now and then gifts from other users, is reported to have a greater chance of it.

Thanks for your thesis. Your reasons sound conclusive, but do you really think there is nothing "more" to it? For you, snitching is not a fundamental trait/character trait? That is, you think if the PSC lotteries/giveaways didn't exist, there would be less snitching?

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K****t

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28th Jan. 2019, at 11:40 am CET#13
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SevenEleven wrote on 01/28/2019 11:27 AM

Thanks for your thesis. Your reasons sound conclusive, but do you really think there's "nothing more" to it? To you, snitching is not a fundamental trait/character trait? Meaning: you think if the PSC lotteries/giveaways didn't exist, there would be less snitching?

What do you mean by "snitching", you are writing in a public forum. The admins can read it anyway.
If someone attacks you on the street and you report them, is that also snitching?
Or if you see someone kicking a dog all the time and you report it, is that snitching? If someone somewhere cheats you or your salary is not paid and and and ... and you take legal action against it, is that snitching?

We are not in jail here, where people beat each other up but stick together against the admins under code of honor.

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B****3

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28th Jan. 2019, at 11:40 am CET#14
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You only have to watch when someone starts a lottery what happens?

If then prerequisites are posted meticulously researched by users whether all were justified, and if what is not true also immediately communicated to the TE. Everything already experienced here.

Furthermore, some think that they do the forum owners a favor when they report something. So to speak want to suck up, why ever?!!!

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SevenEleven
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28th Jan. 2019, at 12:11 pm CET#15
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Coffee Light wrote on 01/28/2019 11:27 AM
Anyone who gets angry about being edited for verbal attacks, insults or other forum rule violations just doesn't know how to behave.


Who gets annoyed about being edited? Well, I don't get annoyed. Again, it's the good right of the GJ crew to delete posts, to move them, to something... I accept that and completely without resentment or the like (btw: When I'm online, it's mostly emotionless anyway. In all the years I have never felt anger or rage because of a user or because of a certain behavior towards me. Merely amusement. And that happens very often, so that I am amused or even amused. )

... in the criminal area, the admin is forced to remove or edit these posts.

Undisputed. But off-topic in this case (by the way, I did not choose two examples on a whim).

Who is not willing to do so, should not complain afterwards.

True, Kaffeelicht, but: Why do you not stick to your own statements, but complain prayerfully at every opportunity that presents itself and does not present itself?


Funnily enough, you didn't miss the chance to repeat your insults here despite deleting them, SevenEleven.
What exactly are you complaining about? My harmless request to you has also been deleted.

Oh, so what I wrote is an insult to you? No shit, I thought it was about the fecal language (=tails). Never in my life would I have thought that I offended you . But with what? With the fact that I wrote that I thought you were in your early 20s and not, as you said, "older than most here"? Seriously, THAT is an insult to you? (*laughs* Come on, tell me you were kidding. Even you couldn't have been offended by that...)

On the other hand, other users are allowed to call people mentally ill and failures, which is not edited.
And that's amazing, because there are very clear rules about what falls under insult and slander and what does not.

It is quite noticeable that some users get away with really every provocation and insult.

So what? Do you know how far up my ass it would go if someone would write here (attention, the squeamish pussies among you, better cover your eyes): "SevenEleven, you are a mentally ill, stinky, fat, stupid *worst swear word ever* and besides, your parents are siblings." So what? So what? Let him/her/it write such things - if it makes schee. I am merely amused by such things. And that even colossally. But never (!) I would report such nonsense to a moderator

I didn't report Paysafemaster, but instead a post that insulted him badly. And that's how it should be.

No, and that's the crux of the matter - in my opinion, that's not how it should be

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SevenEleven
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28th Jan. 2019, at 12:14 pm CET#16
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Timo0510 wrote on 28.01.2019 at 11:20: I find the report button super! When I look at the spam in the no-deposit thread, 95% belong reported.it's just a click for the member and for the crew a relief.

Even though I have zero understanding of reporting someone for... (yeah, for what... for chatter?!) instead of just silently scrolling through the off topic crap - thanks anyway for having the GUTS to report.

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SevenEleven
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28th Jan. 2019, at 12:16 pm CET#17
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Tropper wrote on 01/28/2019 11:27 am: like kindergarten... don't you @TE have anything better to do?
You definitely invest too much time in this forum...

Thanks for your valuable contribution to the discussion.

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SevenEleven
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28th Jan. 2019, at 12:21 pm CET#18
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Coffee Light wrote on 01/28/2019 11:40 AM
What do you mean by "snitching", you are writing in a public forum. The admins can read it anyway.
If someone attacks you on the street and you report them,is that snitching too?
Or if you see someone kicking a dog all the time and you report it, is that snitching? If someone somewhere cheats you or your salary is not paid and and and ... and you take legal action against it, is that snitching?

We are not in jail here, where people beat each other up but stick together against the admins under code of honor.

Apples and oranges comparisons are uncool

Attacks on the street, animal cruelty, missing salary payments have nothing, zero-comma-zero period, to do with this topic.

btw: To conspire against forum admins I find just as nonsensical as pressing the report button.

PS. "We are not in jail here..." - *lach*... sach ma, in which world do you live actually, if you log in here?

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Horsepower44
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28th Jan. 2019, at 12:57 pm CET#19
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Tropper wrote on 01/28/2019 11:27 am: like kindergarten... don't you @TE have anything better to do?
You definitely invest too much time in this forum...

Please let me know if I'm misinterpreting your statement, but if something doesn't interest me I don't even comment on it. That's one thing I will never understand.

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Matthias
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28th Jan. 2019, at 01:03 pm CET#20
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To also take a stand as an operator here on the subject of the "report button":
I personally think that the report button was long overdue and am glad that this function has finally been implemented.

First of all, it should be said: It brings no user plus points at GJ or other advantages, if he reports someone else. But there are also no negative effects if you report something from time to time, where we decide "we leave that".
Also, we do not label anyone as a "snitch" if someone reports more than others.

We see it objectively - a user has reported something, we look over it and decide.
If the post is ok, it stays, the reporter gets an infomail.
If the post is not ok, it will be deleted or adjusted with a note and the author of the post will be informed by PN, the reporter gets an infomail

The suggestion brought by Kaffeelicht:
"There is no need for a report button..." "This can also be done by message to the admins"
At this point I have to disagree with simple math.

There are over 200 posts in the forum every day. So in one week 1400 posts in at least 50 different threads. The task is to read as much of it as possible and understand the context. Some posts are long, some are short. On average, it takes about 90 seconds.

Julian works full time for us, so 40 hours a week. He has the following routine tasks:
- Update casino data (with support from Caro) about 5 hours per week
- add new games (create screenshots, upload pictures, enter data) about 10 hours per week
- Forum moderation about 20 hours per week
- Team meeting ca. 2 hours per week
- general side activities 3 hours per week

As you can see, he effectively has about 20 hours (1,200 minutes) to read 1,400 forum posts, which is less than 1 minute per post. That is in my eyes already sporty..
But this does not take into account that many users write to him because they have any questions. Realistically, he gets a message from 10 people every day, which he has to read and answer. The time he loses in the process, is then again missing at the point when it comes to oversee the forum.

But this article is not meant to describe Julian's working day, but to show how important this reporting function is.
The reporting function ensures that it is clearly visible within the team who from the GJ team has made which decision. If only one moderator received a PN and then simply acted, no other employee would be able to understand later what actually happened.

Through the reporting function other members, like Christoph, Caro or even I can recognize problems faster and intervene.
If something nonsensical is reported, it is read briefly and then "clicked away".
As I said, the person who reported the problem will get an info in any case!

This function does not mean in any case the release to lean back for us, but overall it speeds up the workflow.

Should GJ continue to grow as it has done so far and the work grows over our heads, we will hire more moderators (if the financial means allow it).

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