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Off topic & small talk: Let's talk about... (Page 19)

Topic created on 28th Jan. 2019 | Page: 19 of 22 | Answers: 214 | Views: 30,381
K****t

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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:20 pm CET#181
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Bone wrote on 01/31/2019 15:10 PM
Yes, in Gambling addiction forums they crack down harder, because there only one side of the opinion is accepted, which is perfectly okay and right there. Here both sides are accepted which is also good and right

Of course, you can also see your argument the other way around: If the skeptical players would not always attack those who just enjoy the game and try to impose their personal situation on everyone, it would be more peaceful here. Not every assumption is a stupid conspiracy theory, see Random's BtG - cheating thread for example. There is normal discussion, trying to stick to facts and theories that are somehow plausible.

On the other hand there are just more and more completely hollow threads like: Does one win less with PSC Deposit?

Or threads that actually no longer contain any arguments but only talk about a huge scam. Here, as I said, both opinions are accepted, but a large part of the skeptic faction does not accept that. If absolutely crazy arguments are brought forward, it is still allowed to refute or discuss them

By the way, there are much more skeptics than convinced fun-players here in the forum. If at all, both sides put each other down and not only one side the other.

Whether this question is hare-brained because of PSC cards is a moot point.
I haven't noticed it yet, but I don't feel compelled to attack and ridicule the questioner, who is a recent arrival at that.
After all, it was just a question. And even if he would be of the firm conviction and would make the assertion, one can answer quite factually to it.
Far too often jokes are made here at the expense of others, and they don't have to be.
And when they are not jokes, they are met with "subtle" attacks.
A few months ago, when some users were here who then logged off in rows, such things were also criticized by the admins and also by players here.
In the meantime, it seems that everyone has free rein to attack everyone, including newcomers (both new in the field of gaming or simply as a new user here).

Rules (sensible rules that serve to protect the individual and protect the forum) should be enforced consistently to provide guidance. Letting one person have their way, but blocking or editing the other creates confusion and negative emotions.
A distinction must be made between opinions and personal attacks on others.

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MisterL
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:22 pm CET#182
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Question: Paysafecard has not worked for me for hours NRW
And with you too?

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SevenEleven
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:23 pm CET#183
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Coffee Light wrote on 01/31/2019 at 1:57 pm
The mood is like that in every gamers forum, at least in the more famous ones.
You just have to read through the Askgamblers or Casinomeister forums.

I understand what you mean by that, but it's hard for me to eat such comparative reasoning à la "it's like that with the others, so it's quite normal that it's like that here too". Because I don't think it should be like that.


And that is not surprising. It's all about gambling and therefore losing.

I find it surprising. Because I don't mind losing per se. Or to put it another way, I don't gamble primarily to win. Besides, and losing doesn't play a role here, there are also, to put it casually, winners here who are nevertheless grouchy on the road and, for example, predominantly rumble.



If then of course numerous users who complain, things are beaten around the ears that they are too stupid to gamble, do not understand how machines work, are "soft in the head", and if it is permanently insisted that skeptical players are nothing but conspiracy theorists, that increases the negative mood.

It is common practice in player forums that some people constantly blame those who lose and portray them as failures.
Happens often enough here too.

I don't know the threads and the numerous users you mention there. (Maybe it was reported in a flash and deleted right away, so I didn't catch that?! )


It is - as so often - a type thing. So type "human" and so...
You, for example, seem to me fun-free. I can't remember a single contribution from you that contained a wink, let alone a joke. Joy of gambling and all that. Nope, that's apparently not yours or you don't share it here. If you're logged in here, you're primarily interested in setting the record straight, proving, criticizing, defending, explaining, etc. But you know what - flap around or grin every now and then... That would suit you just fine, I'm sure.




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Stromberg
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:28 pm CET#184
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MisterL wrote on 31/01/2019 at 15:22: Question:Paysafecard does not work for hours with me NRW
And with you also?

With me it just went.... I had but last week also times for a few hours...

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K****t

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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:30 pm CET#185
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SevenEleven wrote on 01/31/2019 3:23 PM


It is - as so often - a type thing. So type "human" and so...
You, for example, strike me as funless. I can't remember a single contribution from you that contained a wink, let alone a joke. Joy of gambling and all that. Nope, that's apparently not yours or you don't share it here. If you're logged in here, you're primarily interested in setting the record straight, proving, criticizing, defending, explaining, etc. But you know what - flap around or grin once in a while... That would suit you quite well, I'm sure.





And again you make me the subject...You must love me very much.

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Knochen
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:30 pm CET#186
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Kaffeelicht wrote on 01/31/2019 at 15:20
Whether or not this question is inane because of PSC cards is a moot point for now.
I haven't noticed it yet, but I also don't feel compelled to attack and ridicule the questioner, who is a recent arrival at that.
After all, it was just a question. And even if he would be of the firm conviction and would make the assertion, one can answer quite factually to it.
Far too often jokes are made here at the expense of others, and they don't have to be.
And when they are not jokes, they are met with "subtle" attacks.
A few months ago, when some users were here who then logged off in rows, such things were also criticized by the admins and also by players here.
In the meantime, it seems that everyone has free rein to attack everyone, including newcomers (both new to the game and new users here).

Rules (sensible rules that serve to protect the individual and the forum) should be enforced consistently to provide guidance. Allowing one to play, but blocking or editing the other creates confusion and negative emotions.
A distinction must be made between opinions and personal attacks on others.

1: The user was answered normally, there were isolated jokes, but that is understandable with such a question. The question is a bit paranoid.
2: The thread should have been in a different subforum. Namely, correctly, to the conspiracy theories. Why? Because the official answer to this question is clearly "no". Meaning, if one would actually win less with PSC than with other methods, then this would be a conspiracy on the part of the casinos and possibly involved payment service providers. Thus a theory regarding a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory. However, the creator of the thread has posted this in the subforum "Online Casinos General". Which is clearly a mistake. This is a common problem in this forum, which I have chalked up to before. Many more threads actually belong in this subforum. Not because they are completely outlandish, but simply because they are theories regarding conspiracies
3:That these users have logged off was 90% a win for the forum. Among other things, there were users who have strongly spread right-wing ideas. Users who really doubted EVERYTHING here, including Daniel's 50,000€ win at Videoslots, of which there is even a video, of which money 5000€ was distributed to the community and of which I and certainly some others have learned directly from a euphoric Daniel. It was a wave of unsubscribes which was good for the forum climate, at that time it ran here worse than today.
4: You really have to distinguish between opinion and attack. This is done by the forum management, not you. Your assessment was in the past simply often wrong

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MisterL
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:32 pm CET#187
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SevenEleven
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:36 pm CET#188
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Counter wrote on 01/31/2019 2:45 PM
Ah well, thanks for the "insinuation". Since it is actually a typical feature of forums, I don't understand why such a discussion has to come up here. So I can't follow it, unfortunately. Too bad. I'm just a "UmDieEckeDenker". I also have all my scripts written by a Ghostscripter. But psssst.

After I know most of your posts, I don't buy that you don't know why there was/is this discussion here. Ergo, I won't say anything more about it now.


(By the way, that was the first thing I did here as a language fetishist - I searched and cross-read your, the GJ team's, posts. And I was glad that all of you seem to be able to express yourselves very well. Because that was important to ME when I'm already in the legal gambler gray area...)


It concerns also not only the messages mentioned by you. And if times such are present, one can work off them relatively fast. But it's worse when a few users don't want to understand that and steal a lot of our working time via Communicator. Of course, this time is then missing in other places, where it is needed more urgently.

You already wrote that earlier. I find the hint important, because I did not discuss with Julian at that time, but I wrote back and forth a bit. However, I did not have his wasted working time on the screen. So for my next "warning" I will be a bit shorter in my reaction.

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K****t

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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:43 pm CET#189
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Bones wrote on 01/31/2019 at 15:30
1: The user was answered normally, there were isolated jokes, but that is understandable with such a question. The question is a bit paranoid.
2: The thread should have been in a different subforum. Namely, correctly, to the conspiracy theories. Why? Because the official answer to this question is clearly "no". Meaning, if one would actually win less with PSC than with other methods, then this would be a conspiracy on the part of the casinos and possibly involved payment service providers. Thus a theory regarding a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory. However, the creator of the thread has posted this in the subforum "Online Casinos General". Which is clearly a mistake. This is a common problem in this forum, which I have chalked up to before. Many more threads actually belong in this subforum. Not because they are completely outlandish, but simply because they are theories regarding conspiracies

A conspiracy theory is something completely different and has nothing to do with attempts to manipulate OCs.
One can answer the question factually, which some did. Others had to dump mockery and scorn again.
And it is just about the fact that then the mood tilts, is logical.


3:The fact that these users have logged off was to 90% a win for the forum. Among other things, there were users who have strongly spread right-wing ideas. Users who really doubted EVERYTHING here, including Daniel's 50,000€ win at Videoslots, of which there is even a video, of which money 5000€ was distributed to the community and of which I and certainly some others have learned directly from a euphoric Daniel. It was a wave of unsubscribes which was good for the forum climate, at that time it ran here worse than today.


I wasn't criticizing the unsubscribes. I too am glad that a lot of the right wingers and actual conspiracy theorists are gone.

and yet, at that time, more care was taken not to whistle at newcomers right away.
Today the hard core has a free hand here.


4: You really have to distinguish between opinion and attack. This is done by the forum management, not you. Your assessment has simply been wrong many times in the past.

Wrong, it is not the forum management that decides what is an opinion or what is an attack, but the legal situation and also common sense.
The forum management decides what is edited. Whether it is right is a completely different matter.

Which assessments were wrong in your opinion?

And it is again strangely conspicuous that every time, when first factual is spoken or discussed, suddenly again something personal comes after it.
Why?

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Knochen
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31st Jan. 2019, at 03:45 pm CET#190
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I will not comment on this any further now. Of course, the scenario I described was a conspiracy theory. Simply denying that does not change the fact. For my sake, take this as a personal attack

Edit: I really have neither time nor desire to get involved in another endless, unnecessary discussion

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