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Off topic & small talk: How to deal with it (Page 2)

Topic created on 03rd Sep. 2018 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 20 | Views: 4,791
Daniel
Elite

Mombasa wrote on 03/09/2018 at 18:23
Please register him with the GREENS.
They are sympathetic to such disgusting tendencies.

Another good Tip from you


But there are also pedophiles who are far less bad than the greens and are not proud of their inclination and want to be treated accordingly. I think even the majority of pedophiles never become perpetrators (I say now just so, but do not know me so well).

I would say that the most important thing is that he never becomes an offender. To ensure that, he should contact a good, possibly specialized psychiatrist / psychologist. I think Google will help here. He does not need to be afraid to turn to such a person, because the inclination itself is not punishable and for the addressed professionals know about it and do not condemn the pedophile who actively seeks help.

@All those who polemicize now: There are always people who have such an inclination and the goal must be to help these people so that they do not become criminals. If you threaten people who have not yet become offenders with "cutting off their tails etc." then this is not helpful, because they will then isolate themselves even more. It is a fact that in this country no one is punished for his thoughts / inclinations. Logically, one can only try to ensure that a potential offender never becomes an offender.

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S****8
I once worked in a tennis club and opposite was a clinic or a cure for police officers ...SEK, GSG 9, Kripo just everything ...
There was a middle-aged commissioner, who was very introverted...with the SEK'lern we have then talked ...were also younger people ...and one of them said that the lady has full the shot away so quite psychologically stricken ...

Because the worked in the department for the evaluation of pedophile images and videos ...awesome thing!

The hammer is, she told us then herself, that on these therapies -which cost a lot of money, new pedophile rings are founded ...
Where you get new victims from and picture and sound material ...

Even so-called counselors or psychologists are involved in this ...

Surely they have a psychological problem ...but in my opinion, there really should be killed the urge sense ...

They will always feel this urge ...no matter how they are treated ...

Whoever does this to a small innocent being does not deserve to participate in normal life ...Lock them away forever ...

There are so many unused islands ....

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VM292
Amateur
Daniel wrote on 04/09/2018 at 10:46 AM

Once again a good Tip from you


But there are also pedophiles who are far less bad than the greens and are not proud of their inclination and want to be treated accordingly. I think even the majority of pedophiles never become perpetrators (I say now just so, but do not know me so well).

I would say that the most important thing is that he never becomes an offender. To ensure that, he should contact a good, possibly specialized psychiatrist / psychologist. I think Google will help here. He does not need to be afraid to turn to such a person, because the inclination itself is not punishable and for the addressed professionals know about it and do not condemn the pedophile who actively seeks help.

@All those who polemicize now: There are always people who have such an inclination and the goal must be to help these people so that they do not become criminals. If you threaten people who have not yet become offenders with "cutting off their tails etc." then this is not helpful, because they will then isolate themselves even more. It is a fact that in this country no one is punished for his thoughts / inclinations. Logically, one can only try to ensure that a potential offender never becomes an offender.

If one recognizes that what is not right and the tendency does not go after that is good.... but There are enough who do not do that and if you would suggest a therapy to those I honestly do not know further... just imagine such a one passes on your child... who knows if one can successfully treat someone like that... I have also watched a documentary about it and no one has come away from the tendency they have all just learned to deal with it! Who knows what trigger leads to the fact that they become delinquent? A child in the swimming pool? The dress? I find in the first place is the protection of children not the pedophile!

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K****t
Daniel wrote on 04/09/2018 at 10:46 AM

Once again a good Tip from you


But there are also pedophiles who are far less bad than the greens and are not proud of their inclination and want to be treated accordingly. I think even the majority of pedophiles never become perpetrators (I say now just so, but do not know me so well).

I would say that the most important thing is that he never becomes an offender. To ensure that, he should contact a good, possibly specialized psychiatrist / psychologist. I think Google will help here. He does not need to be afraid to turn to such a person, because the inclination itself is not punishable and for the addressed professionals know about it and do not condemn the pedophile who actively seeks help.

@All those who polemicize now: There are always people who have such an inclination and the goal must be to help these people so that they do not become criminals. If you threaten people who have not yet become offenders with "cutting off their tails etc." then this is not helpful, because they will then isolate themselves even more. It is a fact that in this country no one is punished for his thoughts / inclinations. Logically, one can only try to ensure that a potential offender never becomes an offender.

Fortunately, that was a long time ago. In the 80's there were quite a few nutcases in the fringe groups of the Greens. That has changed completely, today there is no longer this demand of the ticked off in the Greens or there are no longer these nutcases there either.
In contrast to the pedophilia accusations against the AFD, for example Holger Arppe and Johannes Biesel.

Otherwise, full agreement, Daniel. Very well brought to the point.

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Anonym
VM292 wrote on 04.09.2018 at 11:02
If one recognizes that what is not right and the tendency does not go after that is good.... but There are enough who do not do that and if you would suggest a therapy to those I honestly do not know... just imagine such a one passes on your child... who knows if you can so someone successfully Therapieren... I have also once watched a documentary about it and no one has come away from the tendency they have all just learned to deal with it! Who knows what trigger leads to the fact that they become delinquent? A child in the swimming pool? The dress? I find in the first place is the protection of children not the pedophile!

That's what it's all about: to live with the tendency or to deal with it.

Another example: a part of the (game) addicts becomes criminal up to murder. What about them? Lock them up as a precaution? Not treatable? People can get hurt there, too.

And on the subject of protecting children: most abuse happens at home and the perpetrators usually don't have pedophilic tendencies, but are just acting out their sadistic side.

If someone comes and wants help or confides in someone (actually, it doesn't matter if it's a certain tendency or addiction), you should see that as a call for help and try to find a solution with the person.

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VM292
Amateur
Zockertyp89 wrote on 04/09/2018 at 11:14 am
That's what it's all about though: living with or dealing with the tendency.

Other example: a part of (game)addicts becomes criminal up to murder. What about them? Lock them up as a precaution? Not treatable? People can get hurt there, too.

And on the subject of protecting children: most abuse happens at home and the perpetrators usually don't have pedophilic tendencies, but are just acting out their sadistic side.

If someone comes and wants help or confides in someone (actually, it doesn't matter if it's a certain tendency or addiction), you should see that as a call for help and try to find a solution with the person.

How can you compare a gambling addict with a pedophile? An addiction is treatable, but according to some therapists, this addiction is not! Of course, people can also come to harm, but this is not a comparison!

Unfortunately, you are not at all on my arguments like e.g. What could be the trigger, etc...

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Daniel
Elite

VM292 wrote on 04.09.2018 at 11:02
If one recognizes that what is not right and the tendency does not go after that is good.... but There are enough who do not do that and if you would suggest a therapy to those I honestly do not know... imagine just once so one passes on your child... who knows if you can so someone successfully Therapieren... I have also once watched a documentary about it and no one has come away from the tendency they have all just learned to deal with it! Who knows what trigger leads to the fact that they become delinquent? A child in the swimming pool? The dress? I find in the first place is the protection of children not the pedophile!

Of course, the protection of the children is in the foreground. And of course pedophiles, if they became perpetrators, must also be punished with the full severity. But it would be desirable if pedophiles would not become perpetrators in the first place and if possible no child would become a victim. But what can be done to ensure that as few children as possible become victims?


One could punish the pedophiles (in a dictatorship) theoretically purely only for their disposition. The consequences would be that pedophiles (who would still exist) would not be able to seek help, would isolate themselves and would eventually (despite harsh punishments) become perpetrators. The perpetrators would then be severely punished, but there would still be a victim, which might have been prevented if pedophiles willing to undergo therapy had been given the chance to do so.

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Anonym
Zockertyp89 wrote on 04/09/2018 at 11:14 am
That's what it's all about though: living with or dealing with the tendency.

Other example: a part of (game)addicts becomes criminal up to murder. What about them? Lock them up as a precaution? Not treatable? People can get hurt there, too.

And on the subject of protecting children: most abuse happens at home and the perpetrators usually don't have pedophilic tendencies, but are just acting out their sadistic side.

If someone comes and wants help or confides in someone (actually, it doesn't matter if it's a certain tendency or addiction), you should see that as a call for help and try to find a solution with the person.

Exactly. You learn to deal with it to minimize / reduce the damage to others.

If you were to do as some users recommend (lock them up forever, ...) then you would have to lock up just about everyone as a preventative measure. Then there is this "what if your child..." to make it dramatic...

If you don't have the inclination it's hard to understand, I don't understand it either - but I don't want to condemn everyone who has pedophilic thoughts. These people want something that would fulfill them and yet they are never allowed to have it, isn't that also a bit tragic? It is the most "human" thing to do to help these people deal with it.

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Daniel
Elite
I think this thread can be closed, right?

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Rasmik12
Top Member
Better close. I think such and similar threads, or even political threads I would generally close.
Something like that always leads to trouble.

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