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Off topic & small talk: House search on suspicion of money laundering

Topic created on 19th Jan. 2021 | Page: 1 of 6 | Answers: 57 | Views: 17,510
SLOTMASTER
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 09:29 am CET#1
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Moin ihrLieben, signed up here to share an awesome experience. I had a really good streak at the end of 2018 and cashed out several 20 buy different sites. Played with Neteller and thus also so made my payout. Of course my account was terminated as a result. Then of course I had to pay my assets to the new bank. NOW in the year 2021 two policemen stood storm-ringing before the door and had a Durchsuchunvsbeschluss. Money laundering accusation but of course they have no evidence. IN the letter of the prosecutor's office said that they can not trace the high sums and that it is not possible. The most ridiculous thing was the purpose of the search. I have withdrawn and deposited 12k by credit card from Neteller and the purpose should be where I herhab the cash. I assured the police officer several times that it was wins and I even have numerous transaction details from online casinos. As bold as he was, he did not believe me. I thought I was in the wrong movie. Then I am also asked what 1k loan to a person is etc.. Exactly what it says: loan. I have already noticed that they were out to accuse me somehow drugs or criminal money but of course had 0 clues for it because really everything is Gamblewins, which I can prove. He just believed me and said so much luck does not work. Unbelievable I thought to myself. Then they took my PC and cell phone and tablet and now I'm sitting here without anything, but I can still do my work. On the phone or PC are also only casino relevant things, as I tell a buddy that I lost. Hab etc. Because of money laundering conceived must then be set or? THANKS already times for reading

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SLOTMASTER
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 09:35 am CET#2
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To understand : I sent my money from Neteller to bank and the bank account was canceled and reported it

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Anonym

House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 10:02 am CET#3
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If it is as you describe here, the case will be dropped and you will get your stuff back in 6 months. What other questions do you have?

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SLOTMASTER
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 10:09 am CET#4
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I found it strange that they were not interested in my winnings statements. Normally they could even ask the casinos. They just accuse me of money laundering and want to find proof. Should I go to the subpoena when I get one? A normal summons would mean that they have nothing and do you think a summons from the prosecutor can come without evidence or evidence of money laundering at all?

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Anonym

House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 10:23 am CET#5
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SLOTMASTER wrote on 19.01.2021 at 10:09 am: I found it strange that they were not interested in my winning statements. Normally they could even ask the casinos. They just accuse me of money laundering and want to find proof. Should I go to the subpoena when I get one? A normal summons would mean that they have nothing and do you think a summons from the prosecutor can come without evidence or evidence of money laundering at all?

I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that a subpoena can only incriminate you and not exonerate you. You are a defendant. As such, you may remain silent. I would make use of this, because the burden of proof is not on you.

But as I said: If you are looking for professional help, then contact a lawyer.

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Ichbins2018
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 10:30 am CET#6
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A little Tip from my side, get a lawyer for criminal law.
They will search and find! And be it that they nail you to the wall for illegal gambling.

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Slothot
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 12:05 pm CET#7
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A little Tip from me to the thread creator, don't believe every Tom, Dick and Harry who trumpets his "half-knowledge", and that's putting it kindly, into the internet world.

Enclosed is a verdict for you that might interest you

https://www.lto.de/recht/nachrichten/n/lg-muenchen-i-deutsches-strafrecht-nicht-anwendbar-gluecksspiel-online-internet/

Ultimately, you have nothing to fear as long as you can prove the flow of money.
I would not appear on a summons from the police. You are only obliged to appear if you are summoned to the public prosecutor's office
At this moment I would just keep silent and talk to your lawyer. Silence must not and will not be interpreted negatively. What any police officer who is overburdened by online gambling thinks is irrelevant

It should also be noted that the §285 StGB, nothing more than a "better" misdemeanor represents. The penalty is ridiculously low and one of the lowest, in the whole StGB. More annoying would be the point forfeiture and confiscation of your wins according to §§73ff StGB

But as for this point, see the article above.

So, stay calm and objective. Let your lawyer settle this and in 3-6 months, everything is back to normal


Edit:
If you don't have a lawyer yet and you are from the south of Germany, I recommend this one:

Hambach & Hambach Rechtsanwälte
Haimhauser Str. 1
D - 80802 Munich

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gamble1
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 12:56 pm CET#8
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Would also advise you to take a lawyer if all are wins

He can help you better he will deal with the issue and certainly also come to the known EU law because we are now times a part of it and if there EU law does not apply then logically with all other things also not and that should explain times one

Possibly then comes if you get the right lawyer also very quickly a letter that it is discontinued

1) Search for a lawyer

2) Discuss everything with him

Will be all right keep us up to date with pleasure such cases everyone here with a lot of attention

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wettibernd
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 01:22 pm CET#9
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In any case, you can thank your former bank, because they got the ball rolling in the first place. I would now wait until the matter is discontinued and then I would pay my ex-banker a visit.

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Katharina2
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House search on suspicion of money laundering

19th Jan. 2021, at 01:29 pm CET#10
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If you want to get peace of mind, you should not use your German preferential account
but better spread it over several accounts outside the EU
Goes without address and in many practical currencies anyway. German banks
and payment providers are bound by the rules here and the only means
where controlled, data drafted and players life made unnecessarily difficult
can be made. That will probably never change.

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