Julian wrote on 17.07.2024 at 13:59: I bought a Steam Deck a few days ago and I'm honestly extremely excited!
Compared to the Nintendo Switch, the game selection is really huge, there is actually the possibility to install emulators, so you could "theoretically" play old PS2 / Gamecube / Gameboy classics (of course, only a friend told me )
It's great fun at the moment, and I'm already prepared for the next long flight
I also have a Switch, but I know the Steam Deck and the other competitors and the Switch is a) very old (2017, so 7 years, although I would rather assume and b) already underperformed very badly back then (was already significantly worse than the ps4 and xbox one back then). The Switch can also be "hacked" and you can also put emulators on it or play Switch games (a friend also told me, I'm really good!!!). You just have to deal with it ^^ I did it with the PSP in the 2000s (called PSP flashing) and iPhones could also be jailbroken It was a cool time xD
For any game available on Steam, you can check if it's compatible with your device before installing it on Steam Deck. And there are games that display a small "warning" based on the Steam Deck community ratings, but you can always read the reasons why in detail. In most cases, it's just text that may be displayed a little too small in some parts of the game.
A warning, but I haven't read that the game has performance issues, at least not for the games in my library.
Of course, I also tried a few games out of interest to "test" the performance a little, for example GTA 5, but there were no real problems in the first few minutes. The fan is perhaps a little loud in some places, but to be honest that can happen with my Playstation 5, so under the circumstances of it being a handheld, the thing is really great.
But of course, with newer triple A games, you might want to think about at least adjusting the resolution or other graphics settings a little.
Thanks for your detailed explanation, I've been thinking about buying one of these, but then discarded it because of the PC PS5 Switch etc.... and of course because I've heard so many negative things about it, but then it seems to have been improved after all
I also have a Switch, but I know the Steam Deck or the other competitors and the Switch is a) very old (2017, so 7 years, although I would rather assume and b) already underperformed very badly back then (was already significantly worse than the ps4 and xbox one back then). The Switch can also be "hacked" and you can also put emulators on it or play Switch games (a friend also told me, I'm really good!!!). You just have to deal with it ^^ I did it with the PSP in the 2000s (called PSP flashing) and iPhones could also be jailbroken It was a cool time xD
The performance thing really bothers me with the Switch! Fortnite, for example, has so many drawbacks that almost every player is displayed as a noskin and the graphics sometimes reload after 10 minutes of play and then don't even look remotely good but more like you're playing Minecraft
There should actually be a model shortly before release with which all this will be fixed but I doubt if they will keep 07/24 now because we currently have the 07 and there is nothing to see of it haha
gamble1 wrote on 17.07.2024 at 20:22:
The performance thing bothers me a lot on the Switch! Fortnite, for example, has so many shortcomings there that almost every player is displayed as a noskin and the graphics sometimes load after 10 minutes of play and then don't even look good but more like you're playing Minecraft
There should actually be a model shortly before release with which all this will be fixed but I doubt if they will keep 07/24 now because we currently have the 07 and there is nothing to see of it haha
Yes, Fortnite is constantly being updated etc. If the hardware stays the same, then it's normal for bugs like this to occur at some point. Fortnite is also intended for the PC ^^
It's not a model, but a completely new console. Switch 2, so to speak. It will have better hardware, but it will never be able to keep up with the current next gen consoles. Switch is also more for people.
Yes, Fortnite is just constantly being updated etc. If the hardware remains the same, then it is normal that such errors occur at some point. Fortnite is also intended for the PC ^^
It's not a model, but a completely new console. Switch 2, so to speak. It will have better hardware, but it will never be able to keep up with the current next gen consoles. Switch is also more for people.
Yes, I know it's supposed to be a completely new console, but the problem is that Nintendo games don't need that much power and Nintendo isn't really good at packaging power well either
Yes I know it's supposed to be a whole new console the problem is always the Nintendo games don't need that much power and Nintendo isn't really good at packaging power well either
I think I saw a documentary the other day where the founders of Nintendo said that they don't care about competing with Playstation and Microsoft because they have no chance of keeping up with the consoles in terms of performance anyway.
That's why they are concentrating on a completely different market.
They focus on their brands and unique games and prefer to try to position themselves broadly in all age groups.
I think it's also successful, in percentage terms most children have a Nintendo console and I think most older people who also like to play games are more likely to have a Nintendo console than a next-gen high-performance machine.
For example, I bought the game "The Witcher" on the Switch about a year ago and the performance was so bad that I had to quit it after a few minutes.
So I'm still very unsure whether I'll buy the new Switch.
At most if a new Mario Kart is released or the classic catalog is greatly expanded again.
I think I saw a documentary the other day where the founders of Nintendo said that they don't care about competing with Playstation and Microsoft because they have no chance of keeping up with the consoles in terms of performance anyway.
That's why they are concentrating on a completely different market.
They focus on their brands and unique games and prefer to try to position themselves broadly in all age groups.
I think it's also successful, in percentage terms most children have a Nintendo console and I think most older people who also like to play games are more likely to have a Nintendo console than a next-gen high-performance machine.
For example, I bought the game "The Witcher" on the Switch about a year ago and the performance was so bad that I had to quit it after a few minutes.
So I'm still very unsure whether I'll buy the new Switch.
At most if a new Mario Kart is released or the classic catalog is greatly expanded again.
HAHAHAHAHAHA omg I swear, I also got the version for 35€ or so 3 years ago. I played it for about an hour and have NEVER touched it since xD If you'd asked me, I would have given you the version xD Witcher 3 was already playable, but for some reason I didn't feel like playing it after 1-2 hours. In contrast, I got Zelda a year ago and played it for 200 hours and wasn't even close to being done with the game
But yes, Nintendo's best sellers are the triple A games Zelda, Mario, Pokemon. They want to attract children and casuals with gaming experiences. Wii, Switch also have a lot of party games. What I find bad about Nintendo is the peer-2-peer function for online gaming. Someone needs to have a bamboo line and you feel the lags too.
I think I saw a documentary the other day where the founders of Nintendo said that they don't care about competing with Playstation and Microsoft because they have no chance of keeping up with the consoles in terms of performance anyway.
That's why they are concentrating on a completely different market.
They focus on their brands and unique games and prefer to try to position themselves broadly in all age groups.
I think it's also successful, in percentage terms most children have a Nintendo console and I think most older people who also like to play games are more likely to have a Nintendo console than a next-gen high-performance machine.
For example, I bought the game "The Witcher" on the Switch about a year ago and the performance was so bad that I had to quit it after a few minutes.
So I'm still very unsure whether I'll buy the new Switch.
At most if a new Mario Kart is released or the classic catalog is greatly expanded again.
That may well be possible, but I wouldn't really see it as competing, but rather as improving the general performance of what the console has to offer, because your example sums it up - were you frustrated? Definitely! And I remember it so well from before where it was always a game of chance whether a game you bought would actually run on the PC or the loading bar would go crazy during installation and you suddenly had nothing of the game you had just bought
The same here it gives you that special old PC feeling and I think if you bring games for your console it has to be playable whether it's third parties that load such high-end games into the stores ok but if there are disc versions of them they should at least run on normal settings
You can't imagine what the buyers of Hogwarts Legacy on the Switch got for their 40-60 € in some cases
Astro Bot is my favorite game ☺️ So creative, varied and lovingly designed. The bots are so cute, the enemies too, plus the mega soundtrack. The game catapults me into a total light-heartedness that you might have felt as a child.
Trying to time it well and aiming to complete all the levels perfectly, I was able to extend the fun, but I'm just before the last galaxy. Fortunately, the first DLC has already been announced, because I really don't want it to be over 😆
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I also have a Switch, but I know the Steam Deck and the other competitors and the Switch is a) very old (2017, so 7 years, although I would rather assume and b) already underperformed very badly back then (was already significantly worse than the ps4 and xbox one back then). The Switch can also be "hacked" and you can also put emulators on it or play Switch games (a friend also told me, I'm really good!!!). You just have to deal with it ^^ I did it with the PSP in the 2000s (called PSP flashing) and iPhones could also be jailbroken It was a cool time xD
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Thanks for your detailed explanation, I've been thinking about buying one of these, but then discarded it because of the PC PS5 Switch etc.... and of course because I've heard so many negative things about it, but then it seems to have been improved after all
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The performance thing really bothers me with the Switch! Fortnite, for example, has so many drawbacks that almost every player is displayed as a noskin and the graphics sometimes reload after 10 minutes of play and then don't even look remotely good but more like you're playing Minecraft
There should actually be a model shortly before release with which all this will be fixed but I doubt if they will keep 07/24 now because we currently have the 07 and there is nothing to see of it haha
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Yes, Fortnite is constantly being updated etc. If the hardware stays the same, then it's normal for bugs like this to occur at some point. Fortnite is also intended for the PC ^^
It's not a model, but a completely new console. Switch 2, so to speak. It will have better hardware, but it will never be able to keep up with the current next gen consoles. Switch is also more for people.
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Yes, I know it's supposed to be a completely new console, but the problem is that Nintendo games don't need that much power and Nintendo isn't really good at packaging power well either
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I think I saw a documentary the other day where the founders of Nintendo said that they don't care about competing with Playstation and Microsoft because they have no chance of keeping up with the consoles in terms of performance anyway.
That's why they are concentrating on a completely different market.
They focus on their brands and unique games and prefer to try to position themselves broadly in all age groups.
I think it's also successful, in percentage terms most children have a Nintendo console and I think most older people who also like to play games are more likely to have a Nintendo console than a next-gen high-performance machine.
For example, I bought the game "The Witcher" on the Switch about a year ago and the performance was so bad that I had to quit it after a few minutes.
So I'm still very unsure whether I'll buy the new Switch.
At most if a new Mario Kart is released or the classic catalog is greatly expanded again.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA omg I swear, I also got the version for 35€ or so 3 years ago. I played it for about an hour and have NEVER touched it since xD If you'd asked me, I would have given you the version xD Witcher 3 was already playable, but for some reason I didn't feel like playing it after 1-2 hours. In contrast, I got Zelda a year ago and played it for 200 hours and wasn't even close to being done with the game
But yes, Nintendo's best sellers are the triple A games Zelda, Mario, Pokemon. They want to attract children and casuals with gaming experiences. Wii, Switch also have a lot of party games. What I find bad about Nintendo is the peer-2-peer function for online gaming. Someone needs to have a bamboo line and you feel the lags too.
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That may well be possible, but I wouldn't really see it as competing, but rather as improving the general performance of what the console has to offer, because your example sums it up - were you frustrated? Definitely! And I remember it so well from before where it was always a game of chance whether a game you bought would actually run on the PC or the loading bar would go crazy during installation and you suddenly had nothing of the game you had just bought
The same here it gives you that special old PC feeling and I think if you bring games for your console it has to be playable whether it's third parties that load such high-end games into the stores ok but if there are disc versions of them they should at least run on normal settings
You can't imagine what the buyers of Hogwarts Legacy on the Switch got for their 40-60 € in some cases
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Visually, it really looks great, we'll see if the hype about the game is justified.
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Trying to time it well and aiming to complete all the levels perfectly, I was able to extend the fun, but I'm just before the last galaxy. Fortunately, the first DLC has already been announced, because I really don't want it to be over 😆
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