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Off topic & small talk: Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange (Page 52)

Topic created on 27th Feb. 2020 | Page: 52 of 94 | Answers: 939 | Views: 157,305
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 02:09 pm CET#513
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Bvb1995 wrote on 27.03.2020 at 11:44 am
What is that for an expert right at the beginning ends

The kill infiezeirten would have died even without Corona ?

That is clear but when would they have died ? An example 48 year old blood pressure patient dies from Corona

Who dies of blood pressure at the age of 48 ?

Another example America a 16 year old child without pre-existing conditions dead

A 34 year old with only diabetes dead

Italy 18 year old dead

That one can lead so long everything only coincidence those were also so died ?

No Corona dead would have died without Corona they are dead of Corona

No one can say that they would be dead in a few days, a serious doctor would never say that

For a 90 year old also not vllt he would live without Corona still 4 years ?

But there are so many healthy people died informs you and it will always be more

The problem is that the numbers will never be correct because every dead person who had Corona is marked as dead from Corona and that also in Germany as far as I am informed

Of course you can look at it this way or that way but there are also younger people who have pre-existing conditions that they themselves do not know about

one can simply not say he died of Corona or just like that one would have to initiate investigations and for this the place is missing

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Bvb1995
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 02:25 pm CET#514
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gamble1 wrote on 27.03.2020 at 14:09
The problem is that the numbers will never be correct because every dead person who had Corona is marked as died of Corona and that also in DE as far as I am informed

Of course you can look at it this way or that way but there are also younger people who have pre-existing conditions that they themselves do not know about

one can simply not say he died of Corona or just like that one would have to initiate investigations and for this there is not enough space

I see it quite differently

I for example have pre-existing conditions but with them I can easily live another 50 years says my doctor

But with Corona I have extreme high chance to die

And that is also the case for many

My family doctor said try everything not to get it

And that's the point see many posts there is 50 year old dead pre-existing condition hypertension or diabetes

But these pre-existing conditions do not lead to death nowadays

My grandma lives with diabetes now 30 years my grandpa with hypertension 20 years

But both would have had bad chances with Corona but are now in top condition

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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 02:32 pm CET#515
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Bvb1995 wrote on 27/03/2020 at 14:25
I see it quite differently

I for example have pre-existing conditions but with stretch I can easily live another 50 years says my doctor

But with corona I have extreme height chance to die

And that is also the case for many

My family doctor said try everything not to get it

And that's the point see many posts there is 50 year old dead pre-existing condition hypertension or diabetes

But these pre-existing conditions do not lead to death nowadays

My grandma lives with diabetes now 30 years my grandpa with hypertension 20 years

But both would have had bad chances with Corona but are now in top condition

Of course, but the people would also have worse chances in a severe flu not necessarily to die but just to have a more unfavorable course of disease

I am a smoker myself so I am quasi also a Risk group but not every smoker dies of Corona now it just means according to my information that the disease can be more severe than in others

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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 02:38 pm CET#516
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Cheeseburger
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 06:31 pm CET#517
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I live in Bavaria and quite honestly: No sow adheres to any restrictions, they walk in groups, the children play soccer with their friends and at the gas station no one keeps distance...and yet I do not know a single person who knows someone who is sick. Very strange.

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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 07:41 pm CET#518
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When I was in Edeka earlier, a security man spoke to me, that I should please take a shopping cart and without a shopping cart it is no longer possible to shop through Corona in the market. I told him I just wanted to go to the lottery booth (I bought a Paysafe card) and then he said ok, as long as I do not go directly into the market. But he had no protective mask on and is thus most at Risk, because he is constantly addressing people does in the entrance area. So it would not be completely excluded that he gets such a Coronaerreger from anyone he addresses there and then this pathogen to other people without wearing a protective mask. Well are also partly exaggerated measures, which are taken at present thereby as for example exactly these.

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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 08:32 pm CET#519
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I also had today ! Because of shopping cart for a package of coffee and a liter of milk
I have then done.
But in front of me a woman with 3 children ran in

And the best?

Two cash registers next to each other on with just 1.00 m distance and the third cash register which is 3m away was closed

So if precautions then also right ...

Remains all nice and healthy!

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Saphira
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 09:20 pm CET#520
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Many people still don't seem to have understood about keeping their distance. There are also apparently a few maniacs on the road. Today, while I was shopping, a man ran after me and wanted to know whether the cream he was holding in his hand was for his face. He could not speak German. I explained to him in a friendly way that it was correct. A little later he tapped me on the shoulder to find out if the shampoo in his hand was conditioner or shampoo. I shrugged because he was holding the bottle upside down and I didn't want to get any closer. He didn't let up and pursued me with that darn bottle until a store employee put him in his place. *g*

In between, a funny retiree was gyrating around, whistling at the distance markers on the register and trying to strike up a conversation with everyone. You could tell he was kind of wearing the riot pants

I myself don't know anyone in my circle who has Corona and also wonder a bit about where these high numbers come from. The only ones I've heard of so far have been some celebrities, politicians, etc



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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 09:33 pm CET#521
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I know a few in my immediate vicinity who are ill. And no I get no money from casinos for this statement lol

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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

27th Mar. 2020, at 09:48 pm CET#522
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It would also be interesting to know why corona skeptics like wordag or hockertz exclusively address a lay audience via e.g. the radio or Youtube. Why do they not publish in the scientific specialized press?
There might be enough enormously financially strong enterprises, which would have an interest in it, because they bring in enormous losses by the current measures. Likewise, it should also be a concern for many other scientists, if the whole thing were really just hype, to expose it.
But presumably the argumentation is simply too thin

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