Off topic & small talk: Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange (Page 47)

Bvb1995 wrote on 24/03/2020 at 17:04
I find bullshit there are not only dead in ii talien Spain catches up Italy with speed

USA Iran everywhere many dead and it is the beginning in 12 days there were 13000 dead

The longer the pandemic lasts also increase the death toll

In 5 weeks we will not be surprised if 15k+ die per day

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Begbie wrote on 03/23/2020 at 8:28 pm: Read this:

Angelo Borrelli, head of the Civil Protection Authority Italy, said at a press conference and I quote: " But I want to point out again that we count all the deceased, that we do not distinguish between Corona infected people who died and those who died because of the coronavirus ".

Excuse me? What kind of counting is that? No wonder the number of the so called corona victims is so high, if you don't make any difference because of the cause of death.

It is clear why, to determine the exact cause of death an autopsy must be done, which takes time and capacity in forensic medicine. So you just lump all deaths together.

That's why I question the death figures from Italy, because they are way too high. Is this how it is done in other countries?

This also explains the big difference in the death rate of infected people between Lombardy (6 percent) and other affected areas (just over 1 percent).

Thus, the whole argument about the dangerousness of the Corona virus collapses. People die for many reasons and you can't blame all deaths on the corona virus.



That is the hammer and confirms my assumption. The director of a hospital in Genoa says in the following interview, nobody died from the coronavirus, but from the seasonal flu. The containment measures would be totally exaggerated and the media would spread fear.

Question: " Why are you the only head of a hospital who says that? " His answer: " Because most doctors are afraid of the media ", that is, of being torn apart by them and losing their jobs.

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Gamer777 wrote on 24/03/2020 at 18:59

According to yesterday's press conference from the Robert Koch Institute in Germany is counted the same way.


So who dies of Corona is clear that the counted. But also those who die otherwise and had a Corona infection are automatically counted as having died from it, even if perhaps something else was the cause of death.
The average age of the deceased is 82 years, the average age of all patients is 45 years.
But in the end it doesn't matter, the important thing is that sadly the numbers are still rising, especially in Spain, Great Britain, Italy still and in Germany it will go up extremely with the infected and dead in the course of the next 7 days......

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Kleinkariert wrote on 03/24/2020 at 9:53 pm
Why would it go up extremely with the infected and dead in the next 7 days? So more than usual, the number of dead can pay badly.

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Gamer777 wrote on 03/24/2020 at 10:39 PM

Well as one can take from the daily reports or news and news now times the number of infections increases disproportionately, thus also the deaths.


Is yes ne simple calculation:

If every infected person infects 5 others (only as an example number) and the 5 infect again 5, we are with 25 and the 25 infect 125 etc. etc..

The numbers will surely also in Germany the next days extremely rise, can pay itself yes also the non-medical one simply out-calculate, and/or estimate.

If like the day before yesterday in Italy on a day 800 die will probably not be invented.

Clearly, one should not spread panic, but if alone Germany of so far existing 28,000 intensive care beds with artificial respiration on over 50,000 beds increases it will already have its reasons.

On the other hand, if it doesn't turn out so badly, it's better than the other way around.
If one imagines, where now in Italy is selected who comes to the respirators; where the 50-year-old gets a place and the 75-year-old must be left to die because no more respirators are available, that is very tragic.

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Gamer777 wrote on 03/24/2020 at 10:39 PM

Well as one can take from the daily reports or news and news now times the number of infections increases disproportionately, thus also the deaths.


Is yes ne simple calculation:

If every infected person infects 5 others (only as an example number) and the 5 infect again 5, we are with 25 and the 25 infect 125 etc. etc..

The numbers will surely also in Germany the next days extremely rise, can pay itself yes also the non-medical one simply from-calculate, and/or estimate.

If like the day before yesterday in Italy on a day 800 die will probably not be invented.

Clearly, one should not spread panic, but if alone Germany of so far existing 28,000 intensive care beds with artificial respiration on over 50,000 beds increases it will already have its reasons.

On the other hand, if it doesn't turn out so badly, it's better than the other way around.
If one imagines, where now in Italy is selected who comes to the respirators; where the 50-year-old gets a place and the 75-year-old must be left to die because no more respirators are available, that is very tragic.

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upola wrote on 24.03.2020 at 19:23: The thread is now 4 weeks old.
If I so read the first pages through, the Menschhheit should already be extinguished.
Today I was shopping umd have actually still seen people.

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Bvb1995 wrote on 25/03/2020 at 00:37
But of those 28k beds 80% are already occupied with other diseases

Therefore you can pay the number forget deutschand has no more than 4000 beds currently free

A virologe had the Mal gesgat that 80% are full

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