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Off topic & small talk: Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange (Page 45)

Topic created on 27th Feb. 2020 | Page: 45 of 94 | Answers: 939 | Views: 154,097
Anonym

Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

23rd Mar. 2020, at 04:53 pm CET#442
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UPDATE



https://www.msn.com/de-de/nachrichten/politik/corona-eind%C3%A4mmung-gesundheitsminister-spahn-rudert-bei-handytracking-zur%C3%BCck/ar-BB11xRDJ?ocid=spartanntp

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Begbie
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

23rd Mar. 2020, at 08:28 pm CET#443
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Read this:

Angelo Borrelli, head of the Civil Protection Authority Italy, has said at a press conference and I quote: " But I would like to point out again that we count all the deceased, that we do not distinguish between Corona infected people who died and those who died because of the coronavirus ".

Excuse me? What kind of counting is that? No wonder the number of the so called corona victims is so high, if you don't make any difference because of the cause of death.

It is clear why, to determine the exact cause of death an autopsy must be done, which takes time and capacity in forensic medicine. So you just lump all deaths together.

That's why I question the death figures from Italy, because they are way too high. Is this how it is done in other countries?

This also explains the big difference in the death rate of infected people between Lombardy (6 percent) and other affected areas (just over 1 percent).

Thus, the whole argument about the dangerousness of the Corona virus collapses. People die for many reasons and you can't blame all deaths on the corona virus.



That is the hammer and confirms my assumption. The director of a hospital in Genoa says in the following interview, nobody died from the coronavirus, but from the seasonal flu. The containment measures would be totally exaggerated and the media would spread fear.

Question: " Why are you the only head of a hospital who says that? " His answer: " Because most doctors are afraid of the media ", that is, of being torn apart by them and losing their jobs.



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Bvb1995
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

23rd Mar. 2020, at 11:26 pm CET#444
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Is there one who is positive in the forum and can tell his experience ?

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Falko
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

23rd Mar. 2020, at 11:54 pm CET#445
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Bvb1995 wrote on 23/03/2020 at 23:26: Is there one who is positive in the forum and can say his experience ?

Do you have to scroll back a few pages. Since Knochen has written that he was tested positive for the virus, he sits since then completely alone at home and the food is always brought to his front door. He could describe the condition to you in more detail, hopefully he is still doing well under the circumstances.

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MisterL
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Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

24th Mar. 2020, at 04:50 am CET#446
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long time no more heard from bones

determined censorship with him or intense

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1****2

Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

24th Mar. 2020, at 04:59 am CET#447
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Bones gettin older, sometimes miss his wise words!

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Anonym

Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

24th Mar. 2020, at 08:28 am CET#448
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ZDF Today on twitter

Fact check: biology professor downplays corona danger

zdf.de
https://t.co/JgKBkEspQ5?amp=1

Hans-Georg Maaßen comments:

This ZDF fact check by Mr. Nils Metzger is somewhat poor. It would be good if renowned expert colleagues of Prof. Sucharit #Bhakdis would comment on his evaluation. https://t.co/U7xuYplP0x https://t.co/x2HCN2uwNu- Hans-Georg Maaßen (@HGMaassen) March 23, 2020
March 23, 2020 at 09:51PM
via Twitter https://twitter.com/HGMaassen
@HGMaassen


Basically correct. But Mr Bhakdi was director of institute of microbiology of Uni MZ for over 20 years and is not a conspiracy theorist. The scope of the pol decisions makes it necessary to deal fachl u not journ with his criticism. (hgm)- Hans-Georg Maaßen (@HGMaassen) March 23, 2020
March 23, 2020 at 10:03PM
via Twitter https://twitter.com/HGMaassen
@HGMaassen


Fact is: every critical opinion is torn apart by GEZ financed media

government announces further intervention in social networks
Federal government wants to impose stricter requirements on operators of online networks such as Facebook. "The trust of citizens is based on objective reporting," Interior State Secretary Markus Kerber told the "Handelsblatt" (Tuesday edition).

The government is doing "everything in its power" to make it clear to Internet companies "that there must be enough room for trustworthy information."

so there will be massive censorship ( even more than already #freedomofopinion)instead of alleged conspiracy theories being debunked or refuted with conclusive arguments, wouldn't that make more sense?????

Edit: broken links removed

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Stromberg
Legend

Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

24th Mar. 2020, at 11:12 am CET#449
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Begbie wrote on 03/23/2020 at 8:28 pm: Read this:

Angelo Borrelli, head of the Civil Protection Authority Italy, said at a press conference and I quote: " But I want to point out again that we count all the deceased, that we do not distinguish between Corona infected people who died and those who died because of the coronavirus ".

Excuse me? What kind of counting is that? No wonder the number of the so called corona victims is so high, if you don't make any difference because of the cause of death.

It is clear why, to determine the exact cause of death an autopsy must be done, which takes time and capacity in forensic medicine. So you just lump all deaths together.

That's why I question the death figures from Italy, because they are way too high. Is this how it is done in other countries?

This also explains the big difference in the death rate of infected people between Lombardy (6 percent) and other affected areas (just over 1 percent).

Thus, the whole argument about the dangerousness of the Corona virus collapses. People die for many reasons and you can't blame all deaths on the corona virus.



That is the hammer and confirms my assumption. The director of a hospital in Genoa says in the following interview, nobody died from the coronavirus, but from the seasonal flu. The containment measures would be totally exaggerated and the media would spread fear.

Question: " Why are you the only head of a hospital who says that? " His answer: " Because most doctors are afraid of the media ", that is, of being torn apart by them and losing their jobs.




If you investigate a little further, you will find out that the video and the statements come from the end of February and were published there first, in mid-March the video was then re-uploaded with apparently deleted old comments. At the time of the first publication, the information about deaths was still correct

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snopsim
Top Member

Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

24th Mar. 2020, at 11:29 am CET#450
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Falko wrote on 23.03.2020 at 23:54

You have to scroll back a few pages. Since Knochen has written that he was tested positive for the virus, he sits since then completely alone at home and the food is always brought to him to the front door. He could describe it to you in more detail the condition, hopefully it's still good so far according to the circumstances.

I also hope that he is doing well so far. I'm already worried because he hasn't written anything here for a long time

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Anonym

Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange

24th Mar. 2020, at 11:29 am CET#451
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Here is a correction to the allegation that the U.S. tried to secure exclusive access to a vaccine that is in the works in Germany



https://www.aerzteblatt.de/nachrichten/111109/CureVac-Es-gab-kein-Angebot-aus-den-USA


This article refers to the following news

https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article206555143/Corona-USA-will-Zugriff-auf-deutsche-Impfstoff-Firma.html

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html




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