Off topic & small talk: Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange (Page 44)

Stromberg wrote on 23.03.2020 at 14:32: @zwiebel: If I understand correctly, the report is about samples that are examined because of the suspicion of influenza (flu viruses).
These were additionally tested for coronaviruses from a certain point in time

The people from whom the samples were taken were probably not exposed to an increased Risk of corona (not in risk areas, no contact with people who tested positive) and were therefore primarily tested for influenza, hence only the small number of corona detections
In the tests where corona is the main suspicion, the numbers are of course much higher

The fact that the flu season is over should have no influence on the current measures, which are not taken because of the flu

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Herould wrote on 03/23/2020 at 2:48 pm

One should not make hoarding purchases in the emergency if it is already too late for many.For stock one provides the whole year over,I have my stock cellar always on the most current state,is a food no longer long durable it is eaten and replaced by new.So one needs in the emergency no hoarding purchases make,and the poor also still the rest away snatch.

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Onion wrote on 03/23/2020 at 2:52 pm
ok, sounds conclusive so far

but isn't there a report of countless new infections?
why does the RKI not list these?


and what about this report?
aren't the symptoms similar to influenza?
how should a Covid 19 infection be detected without a test?
General suspicion?
who has a cold or flu becomes a Covid 19 infected person without detection???
that really seems very questionable to me.
This message is from the Epoch Times, not the best source, but we will see if this is officially confirmed.

Faced with a shortage of test kits, the severely affected Hohenlohekreis district in Baden-Württemberg no longer wants to test for Corona. "If a doctor detects the symptoms, the Covid-19 infection is considered proven," said Antje Haack-Erdmann, head of the health department.

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Herould wrote on 03/23/2020 at 2:48 pm

One should not make hoarding purchases in the emergency if it is already too late for many.For stock one provides the whole year over,I have my stock cellar always on the most current state,is a food no longer long durable it is eaten and replaced by new.So one needs in the emergency no hoarding purchases make,and the poor also still the rest away snatch.

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Stromberg wrote on 23/03/2020 at 14:55
They are enumerated here, for example...:

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Fallzahlen.html

The file you posted was just about flu

thanks for the link, I learned something again, namely what containment scouts are....

you have to be afraid to blow your nose or cough on the street, it could be such a scout catches you and poof, you are out of the window

if, and I write it again IF the nationwide SHOULD prevail that one without test only due to the symptoms automatically as Covid 19 case is seized I find that very very precarious, just as the passing on of the cell phone data/movement profiles to the RKI

These are supposed to be anonymized, but how can contact persons with infected persons be found?

if this would be anonymized, then this should hardly be possible, right?

no matter how you look at it, it goes to basic rights

that can be an advantage in fighting a pandemic, but undeniably can also be misused

and that Bill Gates plans to do the following I find more than questionable...

Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates will launch human-implantable capsules that have 'digital certificates' which can show who has been tested for the coronavirus and who has been vaccinated against it.

The 64 year old tech mogul and currently the second richest person in the world, revealed this yesterday during a Reddit 'Ask Me Anything' session while answering questions on the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic.

Gates was responding to a question on how businesses will be able to operate while maintaining social distancing, and said that, "Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it."

The 'digital certificates' Gates was referring to are human-implantable 'QUANTUM-DOT TATTOOS' that researchers at MIT and Rice University are working on as a way to hold vaccination records. It was last year in December when scientists from the two universities revealed that they were working on these quantum-dot tattoosafter Bill Gates approached them about solving the problem of identifying those who have not been vaccinated.

The quantum-dot tattoos involve applying dissolvable sugar-based microneedles that contain a vaccine and fluorescent copper-based 'quantum dots' embedded inside biocompatible, micron-scale capsules. After the microneedles dissolve under the skin, they leave the encapsulated quantum dots whose patterns can be read to identify the vaccine that was administered.

The quantum-dot tattoos will likely be supplemented with Bill Gates' other undertaking called ID2020, which is an ambitious project by Microsoft to solve the problem of over 1 billion people who live without an officially recognized identity. ID2020 is solving this through digital identity. Currently, the most feasible way of implementing digital identity is either through smartphones or RFID microchip implants. The latter will be Gates's likely approach not only because of feasibility and sustainability, but also because for over 6 years, the Gates Foundation has been funding another project that incorporates human-implantable microchip implants. This project, also spearheaded by MIT, is abirth control microchip implant that will allow women to control contraceptive hormones in their bodies.

As for ID2020, to see it through,Microsoft has formed an alliance with four other companies, namely; Accenture, IDEO, Gavi, and the Rockefeller Foundation. The project is supported by the United Nations and has been incorporated into the UN's Sustainable Development Goals initiative.

It will be interesting to see how Bill Gates and ID2020 will execute all this because many Christians, and surprisingly a growing number of Shia Muslims, are very opposed to the idea of microchipping and any form of body-invasive identification technology. Some Christian legislators and politicians in the United States have even tried to ban all forms of human microchipping.

But, on the other hand, this is Bill Gates' perfect opportunity to see the projects through because as the coronavirus continues to spread and more people continue to die from the pandemic, the public at large is becoming more open to problem-solving technologies that will contain the spread of the virus.

The main reason many Christians and some Shia Muslims are opposed to body-invasive identification technologies, however helpful such technologies are for preventing pandemics, is because they believe that such technologies are the so-called 'Mark of Satan' mentioned in the Bible and some Mahdi prophecies. In the Book of Revelations in the Bible, anyone who does not have this "mark" is not allowed to buy or sell anything.

Last year in November, a Denmark-based tech company which had contracts to produce microchip implants for the Danish Government and the US Navy, had to cancel the launch of its supposedly "revolutionary" Internet-of-Things powered microchip implant after Christian activists attacked its offices in Copenhagen.

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Stromberg wrote on 23.03.2020 at 14:52
I didn't mean you either! Had already understood it that way with your supplies 😊

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Falko wrote on 23.03.2020 at 15:19: Have seen a report, to which this hoarding of toilet paper among others does provide. Many dodge thereby on kitchen rolls and the paper is too thick does not dissolve in the sewage treatment plants. Thus, the employees in wastewater treatment plants must sort out this paper by hand. Disgusting is high time that all markets introduce a maximum quantity for purchase which may not be exceeded.

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