Blubbo33 wrote on 23.03.2020 at 12:30 pm: I think many make it too easy for themselves here.
You blame everything on politics or politicians
Do you act too quickly, it is called imprudent, etc.
If they act too slowly, it's not right either.
You have to realize that this is a situation that no one knows or can foresee.
In my opinion, they are doing exactly the right thing, and it's up to everyone to comply and slow down the virus
And if someone comes to me now because of data protection, that is no longer to help, if I can save even one life, they can do with my data what they want.
You get excited about such crap, but for 5 free spins on nine cents, you register with all data in the casinos.
It is now a matter of saving lives, whether old or young, sick or healthy.
And if you are missing stockings, order them over the net. And if not, run barefoot
A joke what some give here from itself and there you also notice how awkward some seem.
And to get upset about dia starting conditions is also nonsense
You can go out, just without contact with others.
Of course, shopping isn't easy, but here, too, you have to be flexible. Then there are just no roulades with red cabbage and dumplings
There's enough other food, I'm already panicking when Mc Donald's closes and people are starving to death because they can't get cheeseburgers anymore
My grandmother has told me much in the past as it was after the war with starvation.Many city dwellers had nothing to eat,are then driven to the country and have exchanged their jewels or diamonds for food.My grandparents had a horse stud farm in the country,and they always had their pantries full for bad times.I also grew up so, in the emergency you must have stored with your family at least for 3 months the necessities of life.What do I need toilet paper that I can not eat, I have to grab my head what people have for panic that they have no toilet paper, there is for emergency newspaper or leaves or just water.In the past there was also no toilet paper. As I said, some of today's people are totally helpless in a survival strategy.I have enough provisions, I've been doing this for over 40 years. And my children do the same, I think when this crisis is over, again no one will think of times of need and continue to live so from hand to mouth, I do not come today, I come tomorrow, and then the whining is great again.So dear friends let an old hand say to you, always think of it, there are always bad times, where a wiser is prepared for it.
I would like to describe once my view of the things, politics concerning. Who is of the opinion that our policy fails at present of Corona, that is either affected by the job loss, which is unbelievably bad individually no question. Or, however, he has experienced frightening himself within the family, which concerns the outbreak of symptoms, or has enormous fear for his / her dearest. After Italy, Spain is now even worse affected, if one can say this, actually still. If one lets this go once in peace by the head, and thereby the individual fates before eyes holds, I feel so some concern not ratio moderately, and I would like to step here nobody on the feet, or diminish its problems ok.
Now I wonder what politics in general has done so wrong during this time? And I do not speak of the knowledge afterwards, which we have now all, and also not the reproaches, which one can acquire in the net in such a way, in order to unsettle the population purposefully. It is Absolutely not yet foreseeable, which dramatic scenes will take place, the death victims concerning. And while worldwide, because as understandable as this may be individually, one should also always just now, look at things globally. Because 10 dead in Würzburg causes me to get just as in deep mourning, as 10 dead in Kuweit by the virus.
What politics is doing at the moment is absolutely at the limit. And I have to say that I have to give you a huge compliment on how empathetically and with flair they are trying everything to save us from everything negative. Even if this is seen as a matter of course, which it is, I think should stop with (earn enough your diets, etc).
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the politicians think about companies and small businesses, which is laudable.
But what about poor people who had to go to the food banks?
what about children from families who live at the subsistence level?
in school, most of these children got at least one hot meal a day and were cared for in institutions such as the Ark, etc., that is now also gone.
People with low incomes could not buy supplies, which means not only Hartz4 recipients, but also pensioners and single parents who had several mini-jobs to make ends meet.
Fortunately, there are now private organizations that step in, but it is unfortunately not enough.
I would wish me of the policy dsss also at these people is thought and not only at companies and economy
Every citizen should receive a one-time payment of 1000€. Without conditions. Like in Hong Kong a few weeks ago.
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I said that we are lucky and it is "only" Corona and rarely fatal! Unlike, for example, measles, Hiv or the like. Because if Corona would be deadly mankind could definitely go on it! Here ne statistics of the WHO
" Annually die 55 million people worldwide. According to World Health Organization (WHO) reports, the top ten causes of death are now listed." Annually from diseases!!!
That's why I said that a LOCKDOWN is out of proportion!
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Results of virological analyses at the NRZ for influenza viruses
A total of 214 sentinel samples from 79 physicians' offices in all twelve AGI regions were sent to the National Reference Center (NRZ) for influenza viruses in the 11th week of 2020
Sentinel samples from 79 medical practices from all twelve AGI regions. In 106 (50%) of 214 sen-
tinel samples, respiratory viruses were identified (Table 2)
Influenza viruses were identified in 66 specimens (31%; 95% CI [24; 38]) in week 11, 2020; 22
were positive for influenza A(H1N1)pdm09, 34 were positive for influenza A(H3N2), and ten were
positive for influenza B/Victoria lineage.
Respiratory syncytial (RS) viruses were detected in eight samples (4%; 95% CI [1; 7]) in week 11, 2020
Viruses, in 14 samples (7%; 95% CI [3; 11]) human metapneumoviruses (hMPV), in two samples
Parainfluenza viruses (PIV 1 - 4) (1 %; 95 % CI [1; 3]), and in 18 samples (8 %; 95 % CI [5; 13]) rhinoviruses were
were detected (Table 2; data as of March 17, 2020). Three duplicate infections were identified. There were
additional two samples with different combinations of respiratory viruses. In one
of 192 samples tested in week 11, SARS-CoV-2 was detected; this sample was also positive for
Influenza. The case was reported to the competent health authority; it was detected in Germany in the
Germany in the border region to the French COVID-19 Risk area Grand Est.
Since week 8, 2020, sentinel samples have also been tested for SARS-CoV-2. There have been two
Detections of SARS-CoV-2 in 649 AGI virologic surveillance samples tested.
According to the definition of the influenza working group, the influenza wave began with the 2nd week of 2020
and has continued since then; the peak of this year's influenza wave appears to have passed
The influenza positive rate was 31% in week 11, 2020 (previous week: 42%) (Fig. 3)
More information on influenza virus NRZ services is available at www.rki.de/nrz-influenza.
This is a quote from the current weekly report from the RKI (Robert Koch Instiut)
you can download these weekly reports on the website of the RKI as pdf, here is the link, if it is allowed to post it
https://influenza.rki.de/Wochenberichte.aspx
what I now definitely do not understand about this weekly report......
it says there were only 2 detections of SARS-CoV-2..and it says that the peak of this year's flu wave seems to be over
I don't understand this,
can anyone here explain this?
how do I understand this weekly report in the context of what is currently being done?
and BEFORE I get put down here again: look at the source FIRST, then read the report....
as I said, would be grateful if jd could explain here
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Onion wrote on 03/23/2020 at 1:50 pm: the politicians think about companies and small entrepreneurs, that's commendable.
But what about poor people who depended on going to the food banks?
what about children from families living at subsistence level?
in school, most of these children got at least one hot meal a day and were cared for in institutions such as the Ark, etc., that is now also gone.
People with low incomes could not buy supplies, which means not only Hartz4 recipients, but also pensioners and single parents who had several mini-jobs to make ends meet.
Fortunately, there are now private organizations that step in, but it is unfortunately not enough.
I would wish me of the policy dsss also at these people is thought and not only at companies and economy
Onion there I give you completely right, the poor are always forgotten what is not in order.money rules the world no matter whether people go on it or not
that is simple stupidity and greed to think only of the economy, if the human being goes to the ground.
@zwiebel: If I understand correctly, the report is about samples that are examined because of the suspicion of influenza (flu viruses).
These were additionally tested for coronaviruses from a certain point in time
The people from whom the samples were taken were probably not exposed to an increased Risk of corona (not in risk areas, no contact with people who tested positive) and were therefore primarily tested for influenza, hence only the small number of corona detections
In the tests where corona is the main suspicion, the numbers are of course much higher
The fact that the flu season is over should have no influence on the current measures, which are not taken because of the flu
Onion wrote on 03/23/2020 at 1:50 pm: the politicians think about companies and small entrepreneurs, that's commendable.
But what about poor people who depended on going to the food banks?
what about children from families living at subsistence level?
in school, most of these children got at least one warm meal a day and were cared for in institutions such as the Ark, etc., that is now also gone.
People with low incomes could not buy supplies, which means not only Hartz4 recipients, but also pensioners and single parents who had several mini-jobs to make ends meet.
Fortunately, there are now private organizations that step in, but it is unfortunately not enough.
I would wish me of the policy dsss also at these people is thought and not only at companies and economy
I agree with you completely. Also what concerns the hoarding purchases, one should take into account the people who can not afford to switch to more expensive products or to put the booth full of food!
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Stromberg wrote on 23.03.2020 at 14:37
I totally agree with you on that. Also, as far as hoarding purchases, you should be considerate of the people who can't afford to switch to more expensive products or put their digs full of groceries!
One should also not make hoarding purchases in the emergency when it is already too late for many.For stock one provides the whole year over, I have my pantry always on the most current state, a food is no longer long durable it is eaten and replaced by new.So you need in the emergency no hoarding purchases make, and the poor also still snatch the rest away.
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My grandmother has told me much in the past as it was after the war with starvation.Many city dwellers had nothing to eat,are then driven to the country and have exchanged their jewels or diamonds for food.My grandparents had a horse stud farm in the country,and they always had their pantries full for bad times.I also grew up so, in the emergency you must have stored with your family at least for 3 months the necessities of life.What do I need toilet paper that I can not eat, I have to grab my head what people have for panic that they have no toilet paper, there is for emergency newspaper or leaves or just water.In the past there was also no toilet paper. As I said, some of today's people are totally helpless in a survival strategy.I have enough provisions, I've been doing this for over 40 years. And my children do the same, I think when this crisis is over, again no one will think of times of need and continue to live so from hand to mouth, I do not come today, I come tomorrow, and then the whining is great again.So dear friends let an old hand say to you, always think of it, there are always bad times, where a wiser is prepared for it.
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I would like to describe once my view of the things, politics concerning. Who is of the opinion that our policy fails at present of Corona, that is either affected by the job loss, which is unbelievably bad individually no question. Or, however, he has experienced frightening himself within the family, which concerns the outbreak of symptoms, or has enormous fear for his / her dearest. After Italy, Spain is now even worse affected, if one can say this, actually still. If one lets this go once in peace by the head, and thereby the individual fates before eyes holds, I feel so some concern not ratio moderately, and I would like to step here nobody on the feet, or diminish its problems ok.
Now I wonder what politics in general has done so wrong during this time? And I do not speak of the knowledge afterwards, which we have now all, and also not the reproaches, which one can acquire in the net in such a way, in order to unsettle the population purposefully. It is Absolutely not yet foreseeable, which dramatic scenes will take place, the death victims concerning. And while worldwide, because as understandable as this may be individually, one should also always just now, look at things globally. Because 10 dead in Würzburg causes me to get just as in deep mourning, as 10 dead in Kuweit by the virus.
What politics is doing at the moment is absolutely at the limit. And I have to say that I have to give you a huge compliment on how empathetically and with flair they are trying everything to save us from everything negative. Even if this is seen as a matter of course, which it is, I think should stop with (earn enough your diets, etc).
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But what about poor people who had to go to the food banks?
what about children from families who live at the subsistence level?
in school, most of these children got at least one hot meal a day and were cared for in institutions such as the Ark, etc., that is now also gone.
People with low incomes could not buy supplies, which means not only Hartz4 recipients, but also pensioners and single parents who had several mini-jobs to make ends meet.
Fortunately, there are now private organizations that step in, but it is unfortunately not enough.
I would wish me of the policy dsss also at these people is thought and not only at companies and economy
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" Annually die 55 million people worldwide. According to World Health Organization (WHO) reports, the top ten causes of death are now listed." Annually from diseases!!!
https://www.google.com/search?q=tote+per+year+because+of+disease&rlz=1C1CHBD_enDE873DE873&oq=death+per+year+because+of+cancer&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33l2.11555j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
That's why I said that a LOCKDOWN is out of proportion!
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A total of 214 sentinel samples from 79 physicians' offices in all twelve AGI regions were sent to the National Reference Center (NRZ) for influenza viruses in the 11th week of 2020
Sentinel samples from 79 medical practices from all twelve AGI regions. In 106 (50%) of 214 sen-
tinel samples, respiratory viruses were identified (Table 2)
Influenza viruses were identified in 66 specimens (31%; 95% CI [24; 38]) in week 11, 2020; 22
were positive for influenza A(H1N1)pdm09, 34 were positive for influenza A(H3N2), and ten were
positive for influenza B/Victoria lineage.
Respiratory syncytial (RS) viruses were detected in eight samples (4%; 95% CI [1; 7]) in week 11, 2020
Viruses, in 14 samples (7%; 95% CI [3; 11]) human metapneumoviruses (hMPV), in two samples
Parainfluenza viruses (PIV 1 - 4) (1 %; 95 % CI [1; 3]), and in 18 samples (8 %; 95 % CI [5; 13]) rhinoviruses were
were detected (Table 2; data as of March 17, 2020). Three duplicate infections were identified. There were
additional two samples with different combinations of respiratory viruses. In one
of 192 samples tested in week 11, SARS-CoV-2 was detected; this sample was also positive for
Influenza. The case was reported to the competent health authority; it was detected in Germany in the
Germany in the border region to the French COVID-19 Risk area Grand Est.
Since week 8, 2020, sentinel samples have also been tested for SARS-CoV-2. There have been two
Detections of SARS-CoV-2 in 649 AGI virologic surveillance samples tested.
According to the definition of the influenza working group, the influenza wave began with the 2nd week of 2020
and has continued since then; the peak of this year's influenza wave appears to have passed
The influenza positive rate was 31% in week 11, 2020 (previous week: 42%) (Fig. 3)
More information on influenza virus NRZ services is available at www.rki.de/nrz-influenza.
This is a quote from the current weekly report from the RKI (Robert Koch Instiut)
you can download these weekly reports on the website of the RKI as pdf, here is the link, if it is allowed to post it
https://influenza.rki.de/Wochenberichte.aspx
what I now definitely do not understand about this weekly report......
it says there were only 2 detections of SARS-CoV-2..and it says that the peak of this year's flu wave seems to be over
I don't understand this,
can anyone here explain this?
how do I understand this weekly report in the context of what is currently being done?
and BEFORE I get put down here again: look at the source FIRST, then read the report....
as I said, would be grateful if jd could explain here
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Onion there I give you completely right, the poor are always forgotten what is not in order.money rules the world no matter whether people go on it or not
that is simple stupidity and greed to think only of the economy, if the human being goes to the ground.
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These were additionally tested for coronaviruses from a certain point in time
The people from whom the samples were taken were probably not exposed to an increased Risk of corona (not in risk areas, no contact with people who tested positive) and were therefore primarily tested for influenza, hence only the small number of corona detections
In the tests where corona is the main suspicion, the numbers are of course much higher
The fact that the flu season is over should have no influence on the current measures, which are not taken because of the flu
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I agree with you completely. Also what concerns the hoarding purchases, one should take into account the people who can not afford to switch to more expensive products or to put the booth full of food!
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One should also not make hoarding purchases in the emergency when it is already too late for many.For stock one provides the whole year over, I have my pantry always on the most current state, a food is no longer long durable it is eaten and replaced by new.So you need in the emergency no hoarding purchases make, and the poor also still snatch the rest away.
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