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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 901)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 901 of 1347 | Answers: 13,461 | Views: 1,751,334
Falke
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gamble1 wrote on 09/16/2023 at 03:39 PM:

Yes Platin.de is closing Platin.com is going to the Caribbean as they wrote in the latest mail


And yes they screwed us but what should we do now ? Cry ? Complain ? Fly to Malta and personally collect the tax ?

It sucks yes but a big company which f**ks people and just wants to make money oh you really have to watch out so that Apple and Co. do not notice this system

But the comparison is already more than just fuzzy. Apple and Co. are companies that manufacture products and where you know exactly what you get for your money.


Platin has faked a German license and claimed that they pay taxes to the German government, which was simply a lie. What else but fraud is that to you?

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gamble1
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Falcon wrote on 17.09.2023 at 16:18:

But the comparison is already more than just fuzzy. Apple and Co are companies that make products and where you know exactly what you get for your money.


Platin faked a German license and claimed that they pay taxes to the German state, which was simply a lie. What else but fraud is that to you?

I just meant that big companies are always screwing you somewhere - that's nothing new

On the other subject: I have contacted the GGL and asked for information whether this Verification is so provided by the license or allowed Casino name I have not yet called but wait now times for the answer

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Falke
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gamble1 wrote on 17.09.2023 at 19:29:
I just meant big companies are always screwing you somewhere this is nothing new

On the other subject: I have contacted the GGL and asked for information whether this Verification is so provided by the license or allowed Casino name I have not yet called but wait now times for the answer

No, I do not see it that way. Platin Casino has retained 5% of each spin and told all German players that they have to do this because of the German license.


Platin has NEVER had a German license and therefore GGL will not be able to help you. The most you can do is write them that Platin falsely advertised with a German license in order to commit fraud. Maybe the GGL will initiate a legal investigation.

They have pocketed €5 in addition to the absolutely poor RTP for every €100 bet and the gullible players have put up with this ONLY because of the alleged German license. How stupid do they think the German players are and how brazen is that? I really hope that this has finally once criminal consequences.
You really get the impression, as soon as a company has the imprint casino, that the untouchable and completely in the law-free space can do what they want.

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Falke
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gamble1 wrote on 09/17/2023 at 19:29:
I just meant big companies are always screwing you somewhere this is nothing new

On the other subject: I have contacted the GGL and asked for information whether this Verification is so provided by the license or allowed Casino name I have not yet called but wait now times for the answer

I have just sent this mail to Platin:


Hello

You have now claimed for a long time that you have a German license and for this reason not only lowered the RTP values, but also deducted 5% taxes from each spin.
Since you never had a German license, you also did not pay the 5% taxes to the German government.

Therefore, please answer the following questions:

1. Why did you falsely claim to be in possession of a German license?

2. What did you do with the 5% that you claim you took for German tax? Did you pay this money to the German government and thus pay tax in Germany?

3. If your answer to question 2 is no and you did not pay the 5% to the German state, what happened to this money and do you plan to return this money to the aggrieved players?

Lg


Maybe someone else would like to send them an email, just to build up a little pressure. What they have done is so illegal that it is no longer funny.

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frapi07
Elite
Falcon wrote on 17.09.2023 at 16:18:

But the comparison is already more than just fuzzy. Apple and Co are companies that make products and where you know exactly what you get for your money.


Platin faked a German license and claimed that they pay taxes to the German state, which was simply a lie. What else but fraud is that to you?

Fee | Platincasino

Can you screenshot it and keep it as proof.


Fee

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Saphira
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What a joke! And what a mockery, this sentence "For us, however, our players always come first", after you know what has gone.

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Falke
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Saphira wrote on 17.09.2023 at 21:51: What a joke! And what a mockery, this sentence "For us, however, our players always come first" after knowing what went.

Absolutely. They never had a German license and clearly claim that though, as evidenced by the screenshot. They simply pocketed the "tax" themselves, making a fool of every German player. I think there should really be no doubt anymore that this is clear fraud.

Unless they have really paid the tax, which would be very absurd if they don't even have a German license.

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Stromberg
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Doesn't make it any better, but dux pino etc. do the same...?

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Falke
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Stromberg wrote on 17.09.2023 at 22:15: Doesn't make it better now, but so does dux pino etc...?

Yes, is then exactly the same. Should also report directly to the GGL and write to the casinos times, why they require a German tax, if they have no German license.

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Falke
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Just asked Pino Casino why they charge a German tax. This was the answer:

"Online gambling is generally subject to tax in Germany. It is not the casino that levies a tax, but a tax that is common throughout Germany"

"So the money is paid to the German state?"

"Correct"


You have to imagine how brazenly they lie, too.

They seriously demand a tax exclusively from German players and also lie to the players that they pay the money to the German state.

Maybe we can make a difference if we send all this to the GGL. This is already a criminal offense and no longer a trivial offense.

1. Is it suggested that the casino has a German license and therefore you have to pay the taxes.
2. The players are deceived, because the money collected is never transferred to the German state.

Just to illustrate. If one has made 10,000 spins on 1 € bet there, then one has paid 530 € in "taxes. This is 530 € that you would otherwise still have on the player account. With 100,000 spins, it is already 5,300 €, which were simply stolen from the player.

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