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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 869)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 869 of 1348 | Answers: 13,472 | Views: 1,752,769
Stromberg
Legend

Begbie wrote on 07/01/2023 at 2:42 pm: Since the Wallraff post before last, I don't go to BK anymore. Nor McD anymore. The relabeling of the sauces alone is enough imho to eat nothing more there.
I can understand it economically perhaps from their point of view, that Mhd is sometimes already closely set.
Anyway, I think that such practices are more the rule than the exception.

I have there currently also no more Bock on it😄

If you absolutely have to, you should probably go to a busy store that uses up its goods fast enough....
In addition, of course, the rest of the hygiene... With the payment and the working conditions I can almost understand that neither employees nor shift supervisors hang in there properly for...

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RiverSong
Legend

frapi07 wrote on 01.07.2023 at 07:19: Black sheep are everywhere.

meanwhile 4 times

with black sheep you can not dismiss everything, there is nothing more with --> can happen......

the system is predetermined from the very top exactly as mentioned several times in the report, relabel again and again, keep warm until the burger starts to run away on its own, squeeze out every possible euro from the customer, regardless of whether the customer has resounding health arguments after the Burger King visit.

in addition, various rodents, lack of hygiene, some even spit in your food when they feel unobserved.

with other fast foods will not look different, probably not every branch so. think it have loose 50% of the branches such serious deficiencies in dealing with food that no one is interested as long as it does not affect 100 people at once.

it is also clear that not everything can be controlled, the insertion of the appeasement texts in the report alone is unfortunately only a clue as it should be.

more than 1490 comments under this video alone can not be mistaken, with something like this, people are normally honest and do not fake statements.

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Hanshanshans
Elite
mowolum
Elite
Normally, the Veterinary and Food Inspection Offices have a plan of which facilities that work with food are visited.
All of these establishments are inspected without exception, and quite a few are closed or subject to restrictions.

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frapi07
Elite

RiverSong wrote on 01.07.2023 at 15:42:

meanwhile 4 times

with black sheep you can not dismiss everything, there is nothing more with --> can happen......

the system is predetermined from the very top exactly as mentioned several times in the report, relabeling again and again, keeping warm until the burger starts to run away on its own, squeezing every possible euro out of the customer, regardless of whether the customer has resounding health arguments after the burger king visit.

in addition, various rodents, lack of hygiene, some even spit in your food when they feel unobserved.

with other fast foods will not look different, probably not every branch so. think it have loose 50% of the branches such serious deficiencies in dealing with food that no one is interested as long as it does not affect 100 people at once.

it is also clear that not everything can be controlled, the insertion of the appeasement texts in the report alone is unfortunately only a clue as it should be.

more than 1490 comments under this video alone can not be mistaken, with something like this, people are normally honest and do not fake statements.

I agree with you that this mess is planned and has system, but not by BK, but by the franchisee. By black sheep I mean that it is foreseeable that among the hundreds of BK stores there are a few that are in such a disastrous condition. Of course, I can't look in the kitchen, but I know, for example, that I could eat in a Nuremberg branch without any problems, because I know someone who works there and would tell me if the food there was unacceptable.

I noticed that the article is very one-sided. Only one branch was tested, not 10. Only BK was tested, the other competitors are not tested. There is a system to this as well. I can tell you that you will also get less than iDEAL conditions with 30-50% of Italians/Asians/Turks. For example, I eat sushi only in one restaurant. I avoid all other restaurants in Fürth because I don't know how they work there. By the way, the sushi place I visit has an open kitchen and you can always watch everything. You certainly won't find that at the Chinese/Thai place around the corner, which offers sushi and Chinese dishes.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not defending this BK store at all, but find the post too weak.

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refucs
Expert

frapi07 wrote on 01.07.2023 at 16:47:

I agree with you that this mess is planned and has system, but not by BK, but by the franchisee. By black sheep I mean that it is foreseeable that among the hundreds of BK stores there are a few that show such a disastrous condition. Of course, I can't look in the kitchen, but I know, for example, that I could eat in a Nuremberg branch without any problems, because I know someone who works there and would tell me if the food there was unacceptable.

I noticed that the article is very one-sided. Only one branch was tested, not 10. Only BK was tested, the other competitors are not tested. There is also a system to it. I can tell you that you will also get less than iDEAL conditions with 30-50% of Italians/Asians/Turks. For example, I eat sushi only in one restaurant. I avoid all other restaurants in Fürth because I don't know how they work there. By the way, the sushi place I visit has an open kitchen and you can always watch everything. You certainly won't find that at the Chinese/Thai place around the corner, which offers sushi and Chinese dishes.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not defending this BK store at all, but find the post too weak.

I agree. Very representative is not and is rather direction "all over a lump" with only 1 example.


There are certainly some black sheep at BK, but also in tens of other branches / chains / restaurants, etc.. but just as there is also a large number of restaurateurs who make a lot of effort and that is hardly / not sufficiently appreciated.

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RiverSong
Legend

refucs wrote on 01.07.2023 at 19:22: but just as there are also a large number of restaurateurs who make a lot of effort and that is hardly / not sufficiently appreciated.


how do you think a sufficient appreciation for something that is self-evident looks like? it is their job and they are paid for it

when I cook privately for several people, I also make sure that everything is perfecto.

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Hanshanshans
Elite
It doesn't really matter whether one store or 10 were shown. The misconduct is probably systematic; it's not the work of a single store manager. The Burger King/Wallraff story has been going on for more than 10 years. It's probably just too tempting to maximize profits. The risks and consequences also seem (unfortunately) to be manageable.

Hanshanshans


The current Wallraff video has now been commented on 1600 times. Even though there are of course some free riders, there are more than enough comments here to show that the defects are not isolated cases.

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roccoammo11
Expert
139% of all people exaggerate...

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upola
Legend
mowolum wrote on 01.07.2023 at 16:17: Normally, the veterinary and food inspection offices have a plan which facilities that work with food are visited.
Without exception, all of these establishments are controlled and also not a few are closed,or imposed conditions.

But not enough control.

I worked in a butcher's shop, where they stood felt every week on the mat...although everything was in order.

If the times at BK or MCD would also control so often it would perhaps not have come so far.



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