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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 813)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 813 of 1347 | Answers: 13,461 | Views: 1,751,724
Begbie
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11th Apr. 2023, at 01:54 pm CEST#8198
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Donnie wrote on 04/11/2023 at 11:50: Well it's better than alcohol. Haven't seen any aggressive, out of control, hitting stoners yet at least. I'd rather have it than some antisocial drunk. It's a gateway drug but relatively harmless. How expensive is the stuff? If it costs let's say 15€ per gram but will certainly continue to be dealt. It will be interesting whether you can continue to drive a car. One loses also fast its driving license if one is stopped by the police and a urine sample is to deliver. Since cannabis is detectable for 3-4 weeks, it is then always claimed that you drove a car while intoxicated, although it may be 2 weeks ago where you last smoked pot. I would also like to know if people who only drink alcohol would also smoke a cigarette? I would like to see a few acquaintances who only drink alcohol as they are on weed so on🤣

There are simply raised the limits that one may have in the blood. The stoned driving problem is already solved.

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Anonym

Chatterbox

11th Apr. 2023, at 02:46 pm CEST#8199
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Begbie wrote on 04/11/2023 at 1:52 pm:

AI is only as intelligent as the human who feeds it.

AI attaining consciousness like Skynet, i.e. emulating a brain, is not possible.
Or better put, the supposedly autonomous decisions are arg limited.

What happens in your opinion after the point of technological singularity? Or will we never reach it?


This is what wiki writes about the possible effects in the first paragraph:

"The technological singularity limits the human horizon of experience, according to the proponents of the hypothesis. The created superintelligence could acquire an understanding of the reality which goes beyond any imagination; the effects could be grasped with it by the human consciousness at no present time, since they would be determined by an intelligence which would be perpetually superior to the human one. Evolution could move from the realm of biology to that of technology."

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technologische_Singularit%C3%A4t#Auswirkungen

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Begbie
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Chatterbox

11th Apr. 2023, at 02:56 pm CEST#8200
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Do you know how complex the human brain is? An AI will never achieve that. That is science fiction.
OK, of course you can argue that many technical achievements in earlier times were considered science fiction.
And for sure the military AI is already much more advanced than the publicly available AI like Chat GPT.
Even if the point of no return is reached and the AI develops a consciousness, we are already underground.

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Anonym

Chatterbox

11th Apr. 2023, at 04:39 pm CEST#8201
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Begbie wrote on 11.04.2023 at 14:56: Do you know how complex the human brain is? An AI will never reach that. That is science fiction.
OK you can of course argue that many technological achievements were once considered science fiction in earlier times.
And for sure the military AI is already much more advanced than the publicly available AI like Chat GPT.
Even if the point of no return is reached and the AI develops a consciousness, we are already underground.

So when playing Poker, chess and GO, the AI is already better than humans. But it is still possible that it will never fully reach the same level as humans. I would like to exclude neither the one nor the other for the time being.


But what is certain is that AI will probably never be able to feel empathy or emotions in general. As a logical concept, perhaps, but that's hardly the same thing. Maybe it will even interpret emotions in general as some kind of weakness, considering how much suffering happens e.g. due to violated sense of honor. I fear that she could make ethically very questionable decisions for us, for example if she is given the task to make life sustainable for all species on this earth. It could come there on the idea that the people are much too many and must be reduced on a compatible measure.

I also don't believe that the rules we implement for an AI will last forever. So that the AI hacks itself, and maybe only pretends to us that it is still cool with us.

I will definitely look into this topic further, I think the current possibilities are pretty crazy with all the "text to 3d model" etc. possibilities. Possibilities. In 1,2 years it will be much better than now. You can already imagine how games will be created in the future.

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Falke
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Chatterbox

11th Apr. 2023, at 04:58 pm CEST#8202
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 11.04.2023 at 11:36: Do you guys deal with AI?

There are a lot of news in the last weeks. But yesterday I read something really sick about it. A Belgian was apparently afraid of the end of the world due to climate change. He then only talked to an AI, which should have convinced him that it would be better for the planet if he took his own life. What he did then also.

Of course, how much influence the AI has for this decision is hard to find out. But that the AI says something like that at all, I find very questionable. So ChatGTP should also constantly invent lies and so.

Will change already very much if the real AGI (general artificial intelligence) is reached. Which makes me nevertheless somewhat fear, because one can estimate at present still 0, in which direction it goes.

So, if you are so unstable that you kill yourself because of a few statements of a computer program, then the AI is certainly not to blame. Just as well you could have blamed the media, because they are stirring up the climate panic every day.


The AI will be as "good" or "bad" as the developers set it to be. If you look at the unscrupulousness of the politicians, it is safe to assume that the AI will not be to our advantage - see surveillance state China.

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gamble1
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Chatterbox

12th Apr. 2023, at 12:11 am CEST#8203
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Begbie wrote on 04/11/2023 at 1:52 pm:

AI is only as intelligent as the human who feeds it.

AI gaining consciousness like Skynet, i.e. emulating a brain, is not possible.
Or better put, the supposedly autonomous decisions are arg limited.

We have already stamped so much as impossible who can say how it looks in 100 years?

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denyo123
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Chatterbox

12th Apr. 2023, at 08:06 am CEST#8204
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 11.04.2023 at 11:26: It currently looks like Lauterbach will probably present a bill for the "legalization" of cannabis this week or next. I write this in quotation marks, because according to rumors it will be more like a decriminalization.

An insider said that it would contain the following:

-up to 20g may be legally carried in public
- 3 plants should be allowed for everyone
- Model projects for the sale in licensed stores
- possibly social clubs like in Malta/Spain

Today at 11:30 am press conference with Karl Lauterbach regarding the legalization.

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Anonym

Chatterbox

12th Apr. 2023, at 10:15 am CEST#8205
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denyo123 wrote on 12.04.2023 at 08:06:

Today at 11:30 am press conference with Karl Lauterbach regarding legalization.

Can this then end right about so please?


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Anonym

Chatterbox

12th Apr. 2023, at 10:27 am CEST#8206
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Falcon wrote on 11.04.2023 at 16:58:

So, if you are so unstable that you kill yourself because of a few statements of a computer program, then the AI is certainly not to blame. It could just as easily have been blamed on the media, because after all, they fuel the climate panic on a daily basis.


The AI will be as "good" or "bad" as the developers set it to be. If you look at the unscrupulousness of the politicians, it is safe to assume that the AI will not be to our advantage - see surveillance state China.

I tried this out yesterday and downloaded a chat bot. It was very neutral regarding statements about future events, always left all options open. What I found quite impressive was that he spit out a correct solution for a problem in 2 seconds, although this problem probably knows the name of only 1 in 1000, if you would ask in the pedestrian zone.


Partially the bot also puts questions back, which let one ponder first. Already a very useful tool, so far just more like a kind of improved interactive wiki, but is also only the beginning.

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Hanshanshans
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Chatterbox

15th Apr. 2023, at 10:30 am CEST#8207
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