I am a politician and I have not committed any crime.
I ended a small lottery with 8 participants in a gambler forum, which is no fun anymore because of the renewed isee
organized kindergarten is no fun anymore. No more and no less.
First the action against EdizKassel. I can completely understand Ediz in this case. What is logical there or not is absolutely no matter.
He wins 10,00 EUR, so he should get 10,00 EUR. Period, without discussion about logic or anything else.
And if he just writes "WILL PSC", he should still get it if he won.
Unnecessary games. It hurt the game.
And at the same time, however, whining around when the winning payment from Jubla from the previous sweepstakes comes later,
because he was in the hospital.
In addition then still another empiric report of a user from the current play. If he wants, he can comment on it himself.
Again bitching, again power play or whatever that is.
Besides, this game is a team game. 2 of 4 players did not play for private reasons. Then it's not a team game anymore. I discussed the cancellation with the captain at the time, not isee. I suggested it and it was accepted.
And because it wasn't fun anymore, I don't play anymore.
Sounds simple, it is.
The competition can be continued by anyone else at any time, it is not dependent on me.
@Saphira: Great how you understand the context. So it was not meant and so I have not said it
But if you want to interpret something, you can always do that. You can, but is just not right.
On the same day, even in the same hour, Jubla and I discussed that there should soon be another competition.
Independently of the current now canceled lottery.
I wanted to announce that on the way, because it could be even cooler than the previous one.
The game of Xavi was also fun, was very cool
Under the leadership of Xavi and with the respective teams wass also neat, everything cool.
But now, due to the above reasons, no more.
The competitions are not a challenge to see who does it better.
Jubla and I invest money and time. We do this voluntarily, and gladly, but we invest primarily for this community!
By the way, there has never been any stress and only a few uncertainties in our games. And if there were any problems, they will be solved in the sense of the player and the game, so that everyone can have fun with it. And again, that's what it's all about.
Not about Jubla, not about me, not about isee, but simply the fun of gaming in a cool community.
Is my statement enough for you? Or is there a form for canceling raffles?
Wutmaennchen wrote on 11.05.2022 at 22:30: Statement?
I am a politician and I have not committed any crime.
I ended a small lottery with 8 participants in a gambler forum, which is no fun anymore because of the renewed isee
organized kindergarten is no fun anymore. No more and no less.
First the action against EdizKassel. I can completely understand Ediz in this case. What is logical there or not is absolutely no matter.
He wins 10,00 EUR, so he should get 10,00 EUR. Period, without discussion about logic or anything else.
And if he just writes "WILL PSC", he should still get it if he won.
Unnecessary games. It hurt the game.
And at the same time, however, whining around when the winning payment from Jubla from the previous sweepstakes comes later,
because he was in the hospital.
In addition then still another empiric report of a user from the current play. If he wants, he can comment on it himself.
Again bitching, again power play or whatever that is.
Besides, this game is a team game. 2 of 4 players did not play for private reasons. Then it's not a team game anymore. I discussed the cancellation with the captain at the time, not isee. I suggested it and it was accepted.
And because it wasn't fun anymore, I don't play anymore.
Sounds simple, it is.
The competition can be continued by anyone else at any time, it is not dependent on me.
@Saphira: Great how you understand the context. So it was not meant and so I have not said it
But if you want to interpret something, you can always do that. You can, but is just not right.
On the same day, even in the same hour, Jubla and I discussed that there should soon be another competition.
Independently of the current now canceled lottery.
I wanted to announce it on the way, because it could be even cooler than the previous one.
The game of Xavi was also fun, was very cool
Under the leadership of Xavi and with the respective teams wass also neat, everything cool.
But now, due to the above reasons, no more.
The competitions are not a challenge to see who does it better.
Jubla and I invest money and time. We do this voluntarily, and gladly, but we invest primarily for this community!
By the way, there has never been any stress and only a few uncertainties in our games. And if there were any problems, they will be solved in the sense of the player and the game, so that everyone can have fun with it. And again, that's what it's all about.
Not about Jubla, not about me, not about isee, but simply the fun of gaming in a cool community.
Is my statement enough for you? Or is there a form for canceling raffles?
Surely a statement, but convincing it does not sound for me. One reads rather out that you had no bock anyway because of various things
Is also your right! But then reject it but equal
And now you and jubla so herauszuheben also makes little sense and no good impression, here no one is forced to invest money or time
And sentences like jubla and I do that gladly for the community bump me anyway sourly on.
But so you do not invest too much time I will gladly in the future on the lotteries of jubla and you do without!
We both remain safely connected because of our sports betting thread, with the rest I'm out !
Wutmaennchen wrote on 11.05.2022 at 22:30: Statement?
I am a politician and I have not committed any crime.
I ended a small lottery with 8 participants in a gambler forum, which is no fun anymore because of the renewed isee
organized kindergarten is no fun anymore. No more and no less.
First the action against EdizKassel. I can completely understand Ediz in this case. What is logical there or not is absolutely no matter.
He wins 10,00 EUR, so he should get 10,00 EUR. Period, without discussion about logic or anything else.
And if he just writes "WILL PSC", he should still get it if he won.
Unnecessary games. It hurt the game.
And at the same time, however, whining around when the winning payment from Jubla from the previous sweepstakes comes later,
because he was in the hospital.
In addition then still another empiric report of a user from the current play. If he wants, he can comment on it himself.
Again bitching, again power play or whatever that is.
Besides, this game is a team game. 2 of 4 players did not play for private reasons. Then it's not a team game anymore. I discussed the cancellation with the captain at the time, not isee. I suggested it and it was accepted.
And because it wasn't fun anymore, I don't play anymore.
Sounds simple, it is.
The competition can be continued by anyone else at any time, it is not dependent on me.
@Saphira: Great how you understand the context. So it was not meant and so I have not said it
But if you want to interpret something, you can always do that. You can, but is just not right.
On the same day, even in the same hour, Jubla and I discussed that there should soon be another competition.
Independently of the current now canceled lottery.
I wanted to announce it on the way, because it could be even cooler than the previous one.
The game of Xavi was also fun, was very cool
Under the leadership of Xavi and with the respective teams wass also neat, everything cool.
But now, due to the above reasons, no more.
The competitions are not a challenge to see who does it better.
Jubla and I invest money and time. We do this voluntarily, and gladly, but we invest primarily for this community!
By the way, there has never been any stress and only a few ambiguities in our games. And if there were any problems, they will be solved in the sense of the player and the game, so that everyone can have fun with it. And again, that's what it's all about.
Not about Jubla, not about me, not about isee, but simply the fun of gaming in a cool community.
Is my statement enough for you? Or is there a form for canceling raffles?
Nope. I didn't want to read anything into it. I understood the sentence exactly as it is written. The subtext just jumped out at me. But it's not just me
So be it! You have reached deeply into the word bell bag and explained, how one should interpret that. I didn't notice all the other fuss behind the scenes. Only what became visible to the outside. And that's just strange, because a termination was obviously not necessary and the one who had no more desire was probably you. But hey, nice statement otherwise. Especially towards the end, when you emphasized Jubla and yourself, your commitment, your time, the cool community, all this love - I thought I could hear the fishermen's choirs singing softly in the background. It was almost sacred
@Saphira @Blubbo, there is nothing to add, I also fully agree here
If someone does not like the end of a round, it makes very little sense to enter the next round, and then even as a game leader. The " experience report of a user from the current game" I could not find now, of course possible that here was communicated by PN
It's a pity about the concept created by Xavi, where (for me) not the prize money played the main role, here it was about simply having fun with the thing
For me personally, it was also always a small timeout from current world events
Wutmaennchen wrote on 11.05.2022 at 22:30: And at the same time, but rumgejammert if the prize payment of Jubla from the previous competition comes later because he was in the hospital.
so I would never have brought it up publicly because you can clarify such things by pn. rumgejammert? really now?
it's great that you present it as always that others are in a bad position and that you and jubla are the holy two and that the two of you together only deliver perfect results.
of course no one can keep up
sorry, there were enough gaps that I, with everything I know about jubla, have considered and also only within these days politely asked (that everyone gets his money from him is out of the question). that he was temporarily in the hospital I can not know if he does not tell me of his own accord. is also none of my business if he does not tell me voluntarily.
in addition, within the last 5 weeks, i have personally made several suggestions to him on how he can get the aus. done without further delays, even if he is prevented by a predicament or personal situation e.g. you can get the rest for him, you as a game organizer at the wutm. and jubla games have as well a duty of cooperation and care to take care of it.
and again it is not about me but about the overall situation that it is an unding if after 5 (five) weeks from the end of your great win still not all winners have received their money.
and last but not least --> you can't love everyone here like you are constantly trying to do --> you have to have a very submissive character to manage that. no one is perfect, everyone has his peculiarities.
You can continue the game, no one prevents you
Or exchange yourselves otherwise with each other.
Could eh never understand how you could spend more than 2 minutes a day thinking about how many chips you want to bet and have therefore not participated
I always thought, maybe it's less about the game and more about the contact. And it doesn't have to end now
Everyone, I emphasize: everyone, was paid by me exactly in the time frame that I had specified.
Some already, when the game was still running.
I had to buy every day PSC, for a maximum of 100 euros always possible, was at the time on assembly, and came only once a day to the gas station.
The donations I did via bank transfer, all three.
Exceptions were Isi, Dutch78.
And Wutmaennchen for his work and Xavi22 for Fair-Play, which I did additionally.
Still in addition the 3 additional donations.
Then I had an accident at work, and ended up in the hospital, unfortunately.
Then I had other worries.
Eventually, I took care of that, too, after I was discharged.
And not a single user complained to me about this, on the contrary, many wrote me only positive things.
Standing there sainted?
Say, seriously.
Have I moved in this direction even once, expressed myself in this way?
I do not need this.
@Isi
Yes, you told me I could have hired someone to get it for me.
Understand your reasoning, but that's not my way.
@Wutmaennchen to assign with it?
He suggested that to me, but I didn't want that.
Maybe you understand, I was too proud for that.
Whether this is a mistake, everyone must judge for himself.
Everyone lives by their principles, including me.
Zero organizational skills, yes, I say so myself.
I always try to be fair.
As I said, I was in the hospital, did not think about it.
@Wutmaennchen then contacted me via WhatsApp, and told me.
Then I turned to you.
About the cancellation of the last game:
Actually, I did not want to comment on this, but due to the fact that I also appeared for it as one of the sponsors, but at the same time did not want to be mentioned, but now say that because it is apparently necessary, the following:
@Wutmaennchen didn't see himself in the position to act as game leader anymore due to different difficulties.
I have talked with some involved, and can understand him very well.
But God knows I am neutral, because I "know" both of them very well.
I appreciate both of them very much.
also i have not complained , but have tried several times, as you can read above, generally in the entirety of a faster lottery payout to show you effective solutions
Jubla2014 wrote on 05/12/2022 at 09:15: not a single user has complained to me about this, on the contrary, many wrote me only positive things.
when it comes to money there are many here who write you posive things to get the coveted psc. everyone knows it, few say it publicly. it is an art to distinguish who really means it positively
holiness doesn't come from yourself, you get it. and you as a big sponsor are close to it, if that's good or bad for you, you have to decide for yourself
wutm was never the game leader in my game, maybe he had misunderstood. i just asked him to put the values in. the rest can be read in other posts
there is nothing to escalate here -> everyone says his opinion, draws his consequences from it or not, for me everything is said on the subject
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Maybe Wutmännchen but also make the games of jubla more fun because it provides more attention and it is about significantly higher prices !?
For me it was a short fun, and if i see writes that it is not necessary to cancel it, you have to wonder why it came otherwise ?
In the end, it would not have mattered, after all, it's just a game and it was about nothing, so to speak!
I have gladly donated 10 as an incentive, because it was natural for me, if I participate, also to give something !
The suspicion is already very close to the rage man simply had no more bock for so a few peoples.
Too bad ! I liked the game, whether participation or as a spectator!
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I am a politician and I have not committed any crime.
I ended a small lottery with 8 participants in a gambler forum, which is no fun anymore because of the renewed isee
organized kindergarten is no fun anymore. No more and no less.
First the action against EdizKassel. I can completely understand Ediz in this case. What is logical there or not is absolutely no matter.
He wins 10,00 EUR, so he should get 10,00 EUR. Period, without discussion about logic or anything else.
And if he just writes "WILL PSC", he should still get it if he won.
Unnecessary games. It hurt the game.
And at the same time, however, whining around when the winning payment from Jubla from the previous sweepstakes comes later,
because he was in the hospital.
In addition then still another empiric report of a user from the current play. If he wants, he can comment on it himself.
Again bitching, again power play or whatever that is.
Besides, this game is a team game. 2 of 4 players did not play for private reasons. Then it's not a team game anymore. I discussed the cancellation with the captain at the time, not isee. I suggested it and it was accepted.
And because it wasn't fun anymore, I don't play anymore.
Sounds simple, it is.
The competition can be continued by anyone else at any time, it is not dependent on me.
@Saphira: Great how you understand the context. So it was not meant and so I have not said it
But if you want to interpret something, you can always do that. You can, but is just not right.
On the same day, even in the same hour, Jubla and I discussed that there should soon be another competition.
Independently of the current now canceled lottery.
I wanted to announce that on the way, because it could be even cooler than the previous one.
The game of Xavi was also fun, was very cool
Under the leadership of Xavi and with the respective teams wass also neat, everything cool.
But now, due to the above reasons, no more.
The competitions are not a challenge to see who does it better.
Jubla and I invest money and time. We do this voluntarily, and gladly, but we invest primarily for this community!
By the way, there has never been any stress and only a few uncertainties in our games. And if there were any problems, they will be solved in the sense of the player and the game, so that everyone can have fun with it. And again, that's what it's all about.
Not about Jubla, not about me, not about isee, but simply the fun of gaming in a cool community.
Is my statement enough for you? Or is there a form for canceling raffles?
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Very nice that you do it again
Mega generous to invest so much money and time, will soon like the gj coin lottery ^^
Peace
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Surely a statement, but convincing it does not sound for me. One reads rather out that you had no bock anyway because of various things
Is also your right! But then reject it but equal
And now you and jubla so herauszuheben also makes little sense and no good impression, here no one is forced to invest money or time
And sentences like jubla and I do that gladly for the community bump me anyway sourly on.
But so you do not invest too much time I will gladly in the future on the lotteries of jubla and you do without!
We both remain safely connected because of our sports betting thread, with the rest I'm out !
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Nope. I didn't want to read anything into it. I understood the sentence exactly as it is written. The subtext just jumped out at me. But it's not just me
So be it! You have reached deeply into the word bell bag and explained, how one should interpret that. I didn't notice all the other fuss behind the scenes. Only what became visible to the outside. And that's just strange, because a termination was obviously not necessary and the one who had no more desire was probably you. But hey, nice statement otherwise. Especially towards the end, when you emphasized Jubla and yourself, your commitment, your time, the cool community, all this love - I thought I could hear the fishermen's choirs singing softly in the background. It was almost sacred
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If someone does not like the end of a round, it makes very little sense to enter the next round, and then even as a game leader. The " experience report of a user from the current game" I could not find now, of course possible that here was communicated by PN
It's a pity about the concept created by Xavi, where (for me) not the prize money played the main role, here it was about simply having fun with the thing
For me personally, it was also always a small timeout from current world events
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so I would never have brought it up publicly because you can clarify such things by pn. rumgejammert? really now?
it's great that you present it as always that others are in a bad position and that you and jubla are the holy two and that the two of you together only deliver perfect results.
of course no one can keep up
sorry, there were enough gaps that I, with everything I know about jubla, have considered and also only within these days politely asked (that everyone gets his money from him is out of the question). that he was temporarily in the hospital I can not know if he does not tell me of his own accord. is also none of my business if he does not tell me voluntarily.
in addition, within the last 5 weeks, i have personally made several suggestions to him on how he can get the aus. done without further delays, even if he is prevented by a predicament or personal situation
e.g. you can get the rest for him, you as a game organizer at the wutm. and jubla games have as well a duty of cooperation and care to take care of it.
and again it is not about me but about the overall situation that it is an unding if after 5 (five) weeks from the end of your great win still not all winners have received their money.
and last but not least --> you can't love everyone here like you are constantly trying to do --> you have to have a very submissive character to manage that. no one is perfect, everyone has his peculiarities.
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You can continue the game, no one prevents you
Or exchange yourselves otherwise with each other.
Could eh never understand how you could spend more than 2 minutes a day thinking about how many chips you want to bet and have therefore not participated
I always thought, maybe it's less about the game and more about the contact. And it doesn't have to end now
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Since this is also about me, a few words.
Everyone, I emphasize: everyone, was paid by me exactly in the time frame that I had specified.
Some already, when the game was still running.
I had to buy every day PSC, for a maximum of 100 euros always possible, was at the time on assembly, and came only once a day to the gas station.
The donations I did via bank transfer, all three.
Exceptions were Isi, Dutch78.
And Wutmaennchen for his work and Xavi22 for Fair-Play, which I did additionally.
Still in addition the 3 additional donations.
Then I had an accident at work, and ended up in the hospital, unfortunately.
Then I had other worries.
Eventually, I took care of that, too, after I was discharged.
And not a single user complained to me about this, on the contrary, many wrote me only positive things.
Standing there sainted?
Say, seriously.
Have I moved in this direction even once, expressed myself in this way?
I do not need this.
@Isi
Yes, you told me I could have hired someone to get it for me.
Understand your reasoning, but that's not my way.
@Wutmaennchen to assign with it?
He suggested that to me, but I didn't want that.
Maybe you understand, I was too proud for that.
Whether this is a mistake, everyone must judge for himself.
Everyone lives by their principles, including me.
Zero organizational skills, yes, I say so myself.
I always try to be fair.
As I said, I was in the hospital, did not think about it.
@Wutmaennchen then contacted me via WhatsApp, and told me.
Then I turned to you.
About the cancellation of the last game:
Actually, I did not want to comment on this, but due to the fact that I also appeared for it as one of the sponsors, but at the same time did not want to be mentioned, but now say that because it is apparently necessary, the following:
@Wutmaennchen didn't see himself in the position to act as game leader anymore due to different difficulties.
I have talked with some involved, and can understand him very well.
But God knows I am neutral, because I "know" both of them very well.
I appreciate both of them very much.
Should this now escalate even further?
I hope not!
Have a nice day!
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