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18th Jan. 2022, at 07:55 pm CET#5312

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MasterChiefKief wrote on 01/18/2022 at 7:17 PM
This is really crazy. I have a feeling it's only a matter of time before 3x vaccinated are also no longer considered fully vaccinated. And so on and so forth...
I am only 2x vaccinated, but will also soon boosters. But at some point it's over for me too.

Don't let the comments here make you crazy.

And if you are undecided, just talk to your family doctor

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:03 pm CET#5313

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I will never get vaccinated. Even 3600 euro fine will not change that. Should they ever
tear the place down by force, I will answer with force
Secretly I believe even, the whole here in DE and Europe generally will not go out in the next years
without bloodshed. We are still different strict than the Chinese, who already grow up with the communism and
and let everything go over them

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:12 pm CET#5314

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Blubbo33 wrote on 01/18/2022 at 19:55
Don't let the comments here drive you crazy.

And if you're undecided, just talk to your GP.

LOL

How you have edited the post extra and '' of course it's your decision'' have taken out lets character quite deeply look. So you are no longer of the opinion that it is his decision

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:17 pm CET#5315

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Falcon wrote on 01/18/2022 at 8:12 PM
LOL

How you edited the post extra and took out '' of course it's your decision'' lets character quite deep look. So are you no longer of the opinion that it is his decision.

Nonsense, of course it's his decision, whose else ?

The only one where you could look deep is you.

And I do not mind your arguments, I know who it comes from

You do your thing, I do mine

And if not Sweden is certainly waiting for people like you .

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:27 pm CET#5316

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Blubbo33 wrote on 18/01/2022 at 20:17
Bullshit, of course it's his decision, whose else ?

The only one you could look deep at is you .

And I don't mind your arguments, I know who it comes from

You do your thing, I do mine

And if not Sweden is certainly waiting for people like you .

Then all is well if it is his decision.

You know who it comes from? Do we know each other easily? If you want to argue right wing, Saxon or whatever. Come from the westernmost West and have never voted for a right wing party. So just save your sweeping judgments you picked up from the media.

But yes, I have nothing against you if it comes across that way. Just criticize some of your statements

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:27 pm CET#5317

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Jubla2014 wrote on 17.01.2022 at 21:14: And yes, I will also check.
Some users here I "know" already, that's why I wrote that in such a case as @Peter8 for example his word is enough for me.
Amen!

thank you already for your partial insight.

how willste that with the 16.01. check? does not work credibly.
how willste check at all the Deposit for an eligibility? then the name or username would have to be there
only one can fake or send from buddies or or.....
and then it is almost as bad as a veri at an oc.
and what do you want to do with 100 or more screens of participants incl. name and registration date?

sorry, for me this is highly dubious and not worthy of any competition condition

besides, i know a few people here who have already told me that they would not send you (or any other user here) such evidence as a criterion

sure, you can say, then they just had bad luck and may / can not participate. that just completely contradicts your behavior in your previous contests in which you have always been very careful that everyone has the same chance, no matter what the person has otherwise left off so in the forum, so equal treatment.

exactly, with those you know their word is enough for you (I count myself now also in your sense even if I am in at least 2 of your oc).
because you classify them as credible and others have to prove it, is it fair to all participants or rather not?

please think of something else, feel free to pn
amen yourself

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:27 pm CET#5318

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I keep myself consciously on this heated discussion here out, since I am no expert. I also lack the nerve to keep me constantly up2date since information/statements of certain institutions/politicians that are considered correct today will be revised again tomorrow.

@Blubbo33 I would be interested purely out of curiosity, whether you (if it is required) would be ready until indefinitely, 3-5 annually to vaccinate? Or are there limits for you at some point as well?

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:29 pm CET#5319

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Falke wrote on 18.01.2022 at 20:27
Then all is well if it is his decision.

You know who it's coming from? Do we know each other easily? If you want to argue right wing, Saxon or whatever. Come from the westernmost West and have never voted for a right wing party. So just save your sweeping judgments you picked up from the media.

But yes, I have nothing against you if it comes across that way. Just criticize some of your statements.

And I criticize your statements.

Try it with coziness...

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:35 pm CET#5320

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MasterChiefKief wrote on 18.01.2022 at 20:27: I deliberately stay out of this heated discussion here, because I am not an expert. I also lack the nerve to keep myself constantly up2date since information/statements of certain institutions/politicians that are considered correct today, will be revised again tomorrow.

@Blubbo33 I would be interested purely out of curiosity, whether you (if it is required) would be ready until indefinitely, 3-5 annually to vaccinate? Or are there limits at some point for you as well?

It is a difficult question, it depends on how or if the virus develops. And nobody will be able to foresee that, except a few experts here

If obviously the clinics become emptier and deaths go towards 0, I certainly don't need it anymore.

If the whole thing rises I will get vaccinated again, I guess.

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18th Jan. 2022, at 08:38 pm CET#5321

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Xavi22 wrote on 17/01/2022 at 20:14 PM

Regarding your statement regarding the shortening of the convalescent status to 3 months:
The simple fact is that both the 6 month status and the current 3 month status are based on 0.00% medical backrgound, as there are simply too few to no long term studies on this. There are people who have little or no antibodies after a short period of time, whereas others have them over a longer period of time. So even a recovery status of 5 days should not be a complaint.

In principle, you have already said everything. There are no long-term studies. Nevertheless, I would have liked to see an obligation to register for convalescents, but instead there is only a voluntary registration register. The necessary money for this additional effort should not play a noteworthy role when it comes to health. Certainly, many of the recovered are now vaccinated and yet there are millions of unvaccinated recovered. According to different media reports there were in the meantime over 85% immunized against the virus. If we subtract the children, then we are very close to 100%....

Regarding your point about vaccination reactions and breakthroughs: I took the trouble to look at a report from the PEI.
It is this one https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers/sicherheitsberichte/sicherheitsbericht-27-12-bis-30-06-21.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3

There were 74,871,502 vaccinations in the first half of 2021, with 106,835 reported cases of vaccine reactions and 10,578 cases of severe vaccine reactions. Unfortunately, it is a bit more difficult to get the numbers of adverse reactions to influenza vaccinations (if someone has something, please post a link), but it is said that about 10 to 25 percent of people have vaccine reactions, but severe reactions probably occur only 1 time in one million vaccinations.

As a comparison: with the flu vaccination there are on average about 10,000,000 vaccination reactions in 74,871,502 vaccinations, but only 100 severe reactions. I estimate the dark number with flu inoculations however quite as higher, since one brings in the last 1.5 years really everything with Corona in connection, in the past however not surely everything with the flu inoculation.

Vaccination does not kill, but Corona. This is the common opinion of the population, the policy and unfortunately also from some virologists. These harmless lies are among other things a relevant factor, why I will not be vaccinated. Those responsible show no transparency!
The truth is that both the vaccination and a corona infection can have serious consequences! In the rarest cases this ends fatally

To the analysis to the PEI still the following is said:
- Millions of people have been vaccinated with two or three different vaccines. Here a backtracking is not at all possible, therefore many of these vaccination damages are not seized by the PEI.
- The number of unreported cases is not discussed. People who die as a result of vaccination and leave no one behind are not recorded. Why? There is nobody who can write a report. A simple corpse inspection is not sufficient here.

In Germany die monthly over 70,000 humans. It is also not at all possible to perform an optimal autopsy on all people.

In addition, the following bothers me:
Deaths in Germany by/with Corona: 116.000
Suspected cases with fatal outcome by/with Corona: 116.000

The counting method is in many European countries, as well as in some federal states of the USA, Misunderstandable.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus233426581/Seit-Juli-2021-Corona-bei-80-Prozent-der-offiziellen-Covid-Toten-wohl-nicht-Todesursache.html
""Clarification"" of the Tagesschau to the WELT article:
https://www.tagesschau.de/faktenfinder/covid-todesopfer-101.html

This is only one example of many. There are dozens of studies as well as statements of experts who claim that only 1% - 20% of the dead died because of Corona. There are also arguments from experts who contradict their colleagues and assume that 70% - 90% actually died from corona.

Unfortunately, most of the experts are people who have lied to us many times in the past. Whether consciously or unconsciously no one can say. During an epidemic/pandemic, scientists also come to new conclusions.

For a vaccine produced at such short notice and on an emergency basis?

According to officials, it is the best researched vaccine ever. Anyone who disagrees is a phony.

And you also forget the reward of this vaccination. The vaccinated people use it to keep the regular business running.

This is only true because the measures do not allow anything else.

If everyone saw it the way you do, a "normal" life would probably be unthinkable.

I'm sure that without measures, starting with the first lockdown in spring 2020, we would have had the virus under control long ago. Not much would have changed in the death toll. There are enough examples.

Herd immunity is completely unrealistic with this weak vaccine.
This leads to the following compelling scenario: It goes on as before.

And by that I don't mean that much has changed for you. You seem to have survived Corona twice. But your neighbor, supermarket employee or kindergarten teacher might not. And you don't talk about the side effects after a Corona infection either. Again, there are no meaningful studies on that, which is why I won't philosophize, but we're not likely to see better numbers than vaccine breakthroughs in infected people in ten or 15 years.

You're probably talking long-covid here
It is very striking in Germany, that suddenly dozens of diseases and other causes have disappeared from the scene. Instead one speaks with former infected always of Long Covid. That is ridiculous?

But also here one cannot say anything exactly. Long-term studies are missing.

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