Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 522)

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Stromberg wrote on 01/18/2022 at 08:18 AM
I somehow can't find anything in the whole article about what is considered a severe side effect though? Each interviewee as they perceive it? Were the interviewees told what is medically considered a severe side effect?
He himself admits in the article that the severity of a side effect is subjective
Even if conducted by INSA, without further information on the conduct of the survey, it is relatively worthless to me.

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Falcon wrote on 01/18/2022 at 1:41 pm
True. That is very subjective. It is also mentioned in the article
But that's not what the article is about. But with the survey the official narrative is questioned after it is directly frowned upon to mention anything at all about side effects. And the survey clearly shows a different picture than the media claim

And as soon as there is such an extreme censorship about a certain topic, one must immediately become alert. You only need to go back a little in history to see that the same scheme has been used very often. A certain lobby then exerts so much power in the short term that it determines the entire narrative. And slowly but surely it crumbles further and further

What few people know. It is thanks to an employee of Philip Morris that smoking is seen quite differently today than it was back then. There is also a good film with Russel Crow
If you claimed back then that smoking is harmful and causes cancer, you were also a "nutcase".

If you are interested in the side effects of vaccinations, I recommend you to look at the American CDC or the European EMA. These alone speak a clear language. The problem is that it is not taken up by the media, on the contrary, it is even negated. But look at the actual reports and not the reports of these authorities. But really the reported cases

According to estimates, these are only a few % of the reported side effects. This is due to the fact that many people do not report minor side effects because they have been brainwashed into thinking that it is normal to have a high fever for 4 days to prevent an illness that often does not even cause symptoms in young people. And that a healthy person has to undergo this ordeal every few months to get his "freedoms" back
Many doctors do not report serious side effects. This is due to the pressure that is put on them. The medical association persecutes doctors who report too many side effects, etc. It is a system based on pressure and fear

As so often in history, it will not be possible to suppress this forever
That vaccinations can cause myocarditis was a "conspiracy theory" for a long time. Until it could no longer be completely kept quiet. And as time goes by, more and more will leak out to the public and for many it will be a rude awakening

This extreme propaganda then leads to the fact that more simple-minded people like Blubbo, for example, beg other people to be injected with a drug because they have been made so afraid that they transfer their anxiety neurosis to everyone else
And many then go along with the pressure to conform
The vast majority of people who have been vaccinated have only done so because immense pressure has been put on them and they wanted to have their basic rights back. And just the fact that one is blackmailed into a medical treatment should make everyone suspicious.
The main means of propaganda is constant repetition. If you had read only one article about Corona, nobody would be interested. But these daily fear predictions (which have never come true) and the constant repetition of the same messages create "reality", regardless of whether it is really real or not

You only have to look at how emotionally people react to my postings. Everything that does not fit into the official narrative is immediately verbally bludgeoned. Most people live in a dream world and have no idea about history or how media and propaganda works. That wouldn't be so bad if they didn't drag everyone else into the abyss and because of them everyone else has to live in an unfree society.

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Blubbo33 wrote on 01/18/2022 at 2:02 pm: I may be simple minded but your detailed writing doesn't make it any better or right .

You question everything in the meantime, see in everything paternalism or restrictions

Are you not more anxious than me ?

Why do you still live in Germany? You also have the right to a country of your choice.

Mottling is just easy.
And every time to read, the policy wants more power and money, therefore these measures.

Why should Kalle in the constituency 79 from Buxtehude think, yes I oppress the people in Germany, that's why I let me vote ? And in four years he is gone and is then the oppressed ? What kind of logic ?

Of course there are always examples that confirm your theories, but all the more that show the opposite .

4.6 billion people and the simple-minded Blubbo are wrong only you are not.

All the dead and terrible stories about it you leave out of account. Was just bad luck for them

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Stromberg wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:07
Thank you, I have actually already dealt a lot with the topic, and since it comes in the circle of acquaintances also often to these discussions, I also regularly read one or the other alternative medium ( Reitschuster is not one of them, however, he is for me no less manipulative than he accuses the "leading media" to be. This article about the study is such an example. The study / survey has zero significance for me and he puts it there as if he had accomplished a huge scientific feat, which would normally have been the task of the RKI 😂)
I do this on the one hand to be able to understand the arguments and also to know, on the other hand, because even I as I say " rather vaccination supporter " find the reporting too one-sided.
That you have to fall back on the BILD to find criticism of the corona policy in the "big media" is very bitter....

One can argue certainly about whether it is meaningful to lower a quasi hardly existing Risk of a hospitalization in certain age groups by one (or 3) vaccinations around again 1 / 1000 (number taken from the air around the thought to clarify).

However, I am convinced, and I think it is fair to say, that without vaccination and other contact-restricting measures, we would have had a serious problem in hospitals this fall.

I could write pages and pages here about my thoughts on this, but I don't really have any more time for it and also don't have the time to fully organize these thoughts😂

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Blubbo33 wrote on 18/01/2022 at 14:18: Because I didn't deal with then, maybe I would have, no idea?

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Falcon wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:21
That means you endangered other people back then and you didn't care about other people at all? And maybe even went to parties and met other people without testing and vaccination?

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Blubbo33 wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:23
Yes out of ignorance I guess I did!!!

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