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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1393)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1393 of 1418 | Answers: 14,170 | Views: 1,935,016
frapi07
Elite

Patizi wrote on 08.01.2025 at 18:08:

I'm afraid I can't agree with you there. Not everyone is only responsible for themselves and it's also far too easy to break it down. Some people don't even have the mental strength to take responsibility for themselves.


Eat as much McD as you want, catch as many diseases as you want, but stop putting others in danger. Your example is not at all comparable to the topic of "drugs" because I am simply talking specifically about the fact that you are no longer in control of your senses. Drugs simply change your consciousness and that puts others in danger, in whatever form.


Most people are responsible for themselves. Every decision you make will affect your life. Each of us is mentally strong enough.

Of course it's comparable. You can develop addictive behavior. Is there a sugar addiction? Sugar doesn't change your consciousness, but it does change your eating habits and your mood. Best example: children You are what you eat. I haven't had any sweet drinks for 4.5 months and I notice the change. Also, McD's puts others at Risk and fast food can be addictive. You can become addicted to anything. It starts with the Happy Meal (back to the children). The psychology behind it is really awesome. Clever, but perfidious at the same time.




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Patizi
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 08.01.2025 at 19:15:

The vast majority of people are responsible for themselves. Every decision you make will affect your life. Each of us is mentally strong enough.

Of course it's comparable. You can develop addictive behavior. Is there a sugar addiction? Sugar doesn't change your consciousness, but it does change your eating habits and your mood. Best example: children You are what you eat. I haven't had any sweet drinks for 4.5 months and I notice the change. Also, McD's puts others at Risk and fast food can be addictive. You can become addicted to anything. It starts with the Happy Meal (back to the children). The psychology behind it is really awesome. Clever, but perfidious at the same time.





No, definitely not everyone is mentally strong enough. And yes, you yourself decide to get into the car drunk, but from then on you are certainly not only responsible for yourself. Because your responsibility can cost the lives of others, even though this could have been prevented if you hadn't been drinking. Every decision you make can also affect the life of another person. And no, not everyone is mentally strong enough. Many people have mental problems.


You write about addiction, although I am actually talking about harming others because you are not in control of your senses. And if we're talking about harming others because of substances, then we're talking about drugs! If I eat mekkes all the time, I'm harming myself and my body. I've never heard of anyone changing so much as a result of eating mekkes that they committed a crime. It happens a lot with drugs (alcohol is one of them). So your comparison is really garbage. I repeat, my contribution is not primarily about addiction but about what happens (to other people) when he takes it. This also happens without an addiction when consuming these substances!

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frapi07
Elite
Patizi wrote on 08.01.2025 at 21:03:

No, definitely not everyone is mentally strong enough. And yes, you yourself decide to get into the car drunk, but from then on you are certainly not only responsible for yourself. Because your responsibility can cost the lives of others, even though this could have been prevented if you hadn't been drinking. Every decision you make can also affect the life of another person. And no, not everyone is mentally strong enough. Many people have mental problems.


You write about addiction, although I am actually talking about harming others because you are not in control of your senses. And if we're talking about harming others because of substances, then we're talking about drugs! If I eat mekkes all the time, I'm harming myself and my body. I've never heard of anyone changing so much as a result of eating mekkes that they committed a crime. It happens a lot with drugs (alcohol is one of them). So your comparison is really garbage. I repeat, my contribution is not primarily about addiction but about what happens (to other people) when he takes it. This also happens without an addiction when consuming these substances!

I don't think I expressed myself well enough. Regarding McDonalds or other companies: these companies produce unhealthy products. Products that harm several generations, see USA. It's a much bigger crime that companies that are only out to win are feeding people unhealthy food that causes serious illness and affects billions of people than someone driving drunk and causing harm, BUT: it would be just as bad to ban it. I mean, you can visit the yellow M once a month. But the problem is that such products have slowly crept into everyday life. If I compare this with my younger childhood (when I was still living in Italy), I can see that the frequency of visits has increased. The main reason: McDonalds only had one branch - at the train station of a larger city, I live very close to McDonalds and it wouldn't take me 5 minutes to get to the McDrive. In addition, fast food chains were more accepted by society and the trend towards eating out (Lieferando and co.).

I understand that people harm others when they are drunk or under the influence of drugs (sometimes even fatally). But a ban wouldn't do any good because these things would then be obtained illegally. Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia Please read it, because it says exactly what I told you (especially in the 3rd paragraph). It's also logical. A ban would therefore achieve very little and these things would continue to cause crime.

So, whether it's unhealthy food or any substance, you have to know your limits and not abuse these things. Anyone who seriously tries is capable of doing this.

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Malganes
Top Member

gamble1 wrote on 08.01.2025 at 15:03:

For sure they can, but just as sure they are not registered on GJ - at least not unless Matthias is sitting in Malta with a PSC printer and has to write here every day "Sorry, daily limit reached", as is often the case with gas stations.

In addition, these are German PSC cards that were not obtained through a prohibited act, such as illegal gambling. The whole thing was merely the result of remuneration, as is the case with Freecash and the like. Here, everyone is responsible for declaring the amount in their income tax - incidentally, this is also stated in almost all terms of use.



frapi07 wrote on 08.01.2025 at 16:23: GJ buys them. From there it will be traceable to the place of purchase (let's take a German online store). GJ doesn't sell them on either, but gives them away. It's like getting one at the gas station and giving it away as a lottery ticket. Paysafe can trace it back to the petrol station, but no further. I think it could be the same here, although I don't know the internal details.

That's what I was getting at, whether you have to worry now because the GJ Paysafecards come from here and you might be exposing yourself to an illegal act.

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frapi07
Elite
Malganes wrote on 08.01.2025 at 22:27:

That's what I was getting at, whether you have to worry now because the GJ Paysafecards are from here and you might be exposing yourself to an illegal act.

I honestly don't think so, as these are legally purchased and not resold, but raffled off. This also applies to lotteries/raffles run by Youtubers or influencers. You don't even have to declare them on your tax return (Simple rule of thumb: Tax expert reveals when wins are tax-free - FOCUS online).

Paysafe cannot do anything about this either, as PSCs are often also used as gifts.


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roccoammo11
Expert

Malganes wrote on 08.01.2025 at 22:27:

That's what I was getting at, whether you have to worry now because the GJ Paysafecards are from here and you might be exposing yourself to an illegal act.

You could also have bought the psc yourself.

You may have received them as a gift.
You had someone bring you one.
No one will find out and no one will ask. Paysafe can certainly see in the system where this card was created and which account redeemed it, but that says absolutely nothing.

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Patizi
Elite

frapi07 wrote on January 08, 2025 at 9:41 pm:
I don't think I expressed myself well enough. Regarding McDonalds or other companies: the companies produce unhealthy products. Products that harm several generations, see USA. It's a much bigger crime that companies that are only out to win are putting people on unhealthy food that causes serious illness and affects billions of people than someone driving drunk and causing harm, BUT: it would be just as bad to ban it. I mean, you can visit the yellow M once a month. But the problem is that such products have slowly crept into everyday life. If I compare this with my younger childhood (when I was still living in Italy), I can see that the frequency of visits has increased. The main reason: McDonalds only had one branch - at the train station of a larger city, I live very close to McDonalds and it wouldn't take me 5 minutes to get to the McDrive. In addition, fast food chains were more accepted by society and the trend towards eating out (Lieferando and co.).

I understand that people harm others when they are drunk or under the influence of drugs (sometimes even fatally). But a ban wouldn't do any good because these things would then be obtained illegally. Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia Please read it, because it says exactly what I told you (especially in the 3rd paragraph). It's also logical. A ban would therefore achieve very little and these things would continue to cause crime.

So, whether it's unhealthy food or any other substance, you have to know your limits and not abuse these things. Anyone who seriously tries is capable of doing this.

Never mind that. I'm interested in drugs and what they do to others. When it comes to this topic, I'm not interested in some big corporation and any kind of weighing up which is worse or better.


It's also fundamentally about restrictions. 0.0 blood alcohol limit would also be great, otherwise your driver's license would be taken away for a few months. Only allowing it in closed rooms would probably also have an effect on adolescents and then how they deal with alcohol later in life.

And no, you're not always able to. I know that 100% because it affects me and my life so far. And it really p**ses me off when you try to judge it from above like that! In this case, you just don't seem to have a clue.

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frapi07
Elite

Patizi wrote on January 09th, 2025 at 10:48 am:

Never mind leave it. I'm interested in drugs and what they do to others. I'm not interested in some big corporation and any weighing up of which is worse or better.


It's also fundamentally about restrictions. 0.0 blood alcohol limit would also be great, otherwise your driver's license would be taken away for a few months. Only allowing it in closed rooms would probably also have an effect on adolescents and then how they deal with alcohol later in life.

And no, you're not always able to. I know that 100% because it affects me and my life so far. And it really p**ses me off when you try to judge it from above like that! In this case, you just don't seem to have a clue.

Okay, that's something else again. You thought the rule that you're not allowed to drink outside bars was a good one. I can only agree with the 0.0 blood alcohol limit. Don't just take your driver's license away for a few months, get a new one straight away. Then it becomes expensive and time-consuming. Also that you would only have to do it once and et voilá many would get a cab or drive sober. Otherwise, unfortunately, most people don't understand. Even the MPU is still too generous.

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R3hab
Elite
Welcome back Matthias

Dubai is already cool what they have achieved there is awesome, the island and buildings and all that
Now they want to build a huge building with Jacob & Co, most of which has already been sold

If I were such a super rich person, I would want to live there, if only because of the security
Plus there are no casinos, no drugs and dirt to poison you, children can wake up nicely

Take the usa as a comparison, drugs everywhere, casinos, women walking around like in the red light, of course it's not like that everywhere, but this culture alone makes you stupid there
Las Vegas is a pure rip-off, keeping people stupid so that they can continue to be milked

Then I'd rather live in a country that doesn't allow this in the first place, I see it as praiseworthy and not that someone is taking away my freedom
Nobody puts you in a cellar and locks you away😂

But in Germany you can't take away people's alcohol, then war would break out here, but a 0.0 per mille limit would be good, because I, for example, don't tolerate it so well, I get drunk quickly, 2 beers and I'm already in a good mood
So I couldn't drive a car anymore but according to the law I'm still allowed to
Unbelievable but true 🫣

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Falko
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Patizi wrote on January 09th, 2025 at 10:48 am:

Never mind leave it. I'm interested in drugs and what they do to others. I'm not interested in some big corporation and any weighing up of which is worse or better.


It's also fundamentally about restrictions. 0.0 blood alcohol limit would also be great, otherwise your driver's license would be taken away for a few months. Only allowing it in closed rooms would probably also have an effect on adolescents and then how they deal with alcohol later in life.

And no, you're not always able to. I know that 100% because it affects me and my life so far. And it really p**ses me off when you try to judge it from above like that! In this case, you just don't seem to have a clue.

I once lost my driver's license at the age of 21 for 6 months because of alcohol. At the time, a police car wanted to pull me over and since I knew that I'd get a breathalyzer at...h I just drove on in my car and took off. I then hid on a dirt road by the Saale. But they had recognized my license plate and were waiting at my house, hidden outside the door. That's how they managed to catch me after all. I had to pay 1,800 Deutschmarks + attend a training course with 6 appointments (not an idiot test) and was not allowed to drive for 6 months. I was also young at the time and did a few things at that age. I wouldn't want to be as strict as you, you also have to show a bit of understanding when people are going through this phase. The older you get, the more sensible you become, at least in the vast majority of cases. I think a little more understanding is better than being harsh.

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