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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1392)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1392 of 1393 | Answers: 13,924 | Views: 1,871,972
Stromberg
Legend

Malganes wrote on 08.01.2025 at 14:27: One question I just asked myself when redeeming the GJ code is, can Paysafe see where you got the code from? So if the code was purchased at the gas station, or wherever? I think you know what I'm getting at

I don't know what you're getting at... But they can certainly see it...

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Patizi
Elite

Stromberg wrote on 08.01.2025 at 14:07:

Uh, no😉😄

I think all drugs should be severely restricted. Alcohol is the devil's stuff and is extremely advertised because it is taken for granted. The fact that people lose everything as a result is one thing, but an even worse thing is that consumption very often causes harm to others. This can often be seen at soccer matches, but also in traffic, at demos, at parties at the weekend...There are so many situations and places. Of course you can argue that not everyone is like that and that there are chaotic people. Unfortunately, it's not just chaotic people but also people who have a normal life. They think they have it under control but they don't. In marriages or relationships, one or the other woman also gets to feel it...Alcohol sucks!

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gamble1
Icon

Malganes wrote on 08.01.2025 at 14:27: One question I just asked myself when redeeming the GJ code is, can Paysafe see where you got the code from? So if the code was purchased at the gas station, or wherever? I think you know what I'm getting at

They certainly can, but just as certainly they are not registered on GJ - at least not unless Matthias is sitting in Malta with a PSC printer and has to write here every day: "Sorry, daily limit reached", as is often the case with petrol stations.

In addition, these are German PSC cards that were not obtained through a prohibited act, such as illegal gambling. The whole thing was merely the result of remuneration, as is the case with Freecash and the like. Here, everyone is responsible for declaring the amount in their income tax - incidentally, this is also stated in almost all terms of use.


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frapi07
Elite
GJ buys them. So it will be traceable to the point of purchase (let's take a German online store). GJ doesn't sell them on, but gives them away. It's like getting one at the gas station and giving it away as a lottery ticket. Paysafe can trace it back to the petrol station, but no further. I think it could be the same here, although I don't know the internal details.

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MisterL
Expert

Patizi wrote on 08.01.2025 at 14:42:

I think all drugs should be severely restricted. Alcohol is the devil's stuff and is extremely advertised because it is taken for granted. The fact that people lose everything as a result is one thing, but an even worse thing is that consumption very often causes harm to others. This can often be seen at soccer matches, but also in traffic, at demos, at parties at the weekend...There are so many situations and places. Of course you can argue that not everyone is like that and that there are chaotic people. Unfortunately, it's not just chaotic people but also people who have a normal life. They think they have it under control but they don't. In marriages or relationships, one or the other woman also gets to feel it...Alcohol sucks!

from the cradle to the grave

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Stromberg
Legend

Patizi wrote on 08.01.2025 at 14:42:

I think all drugs should be severely restricted. Alcohol is the devil's stuff and is extremely advertised because it is taken for granted. The fact that people lose everything as a result is one thing, but an even worse thing is that consumption very often causes harm to others. This can often be seen at soccer matches, but also in traffic, at demos, at parties at the weekend...There are so many situations and places. Of course you can argue that not everyone is like that and that there are chaotic people. Unfortunately, it's not just chaotic people but also people who have a normal life. They think they have it under control but they don't. In marriages or relationships, one or the other woman also gets to feel it...Alcohol sucks!

This opinion is justified and there would certainly be some positive effects for society.

A general ban on advertising, a minimum age of 21 and a ban on playing football, for example, with a high Risk factor, as well as 0.0 per mille in the car, I wouldn't say anything about that either.

Beyond that, however, the state's authority to dictate to me ends somewhere.

I would definitely find it a shame, although perhaps in retrospect because of my age😉, if I wasn't allowed to sit by the canal, Badesse, in the park or anywhere else in summer and drink a beer and have a barbecue.
If you weren't allowed to go out partying and have a drink except in special venues and then have to fire up the celebrity tester when you want to walk home.

On the beach, only people with money would be allowed to drink in beach bars with a license; those who can't afford it would be out of luck.

At home you can get drunk in Dubai, if I understand correctly, to address the issue of domestic violence.

No, I don't think much of it, but you can have different opinions, I can understand your reasoning.

Btw, such strict rules as in Dubai are of course not just a Muslim/Arab thing, in Canada, for example, or in the USA to some extent, I think it's similar in public.

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frapi07
Elite
When it comes to alcohol, drugs, etc., I don't think a ban would do any good. It would then be found on the black market. There is a Risk that people who know little about it will then produce these things and make them too strong. The problem is that people already know about these goods and will always want to consume them.

Everyone is responsible for themselves. The world is full of temptations. McD and co. could also be banned, as they promote obesity and the resulting diseases. However, in my opinion, they cannot be held responsible for this, as they do not force anyone to consume them. The same applies to cola and other companies that produce unhealthy food.

Edit: I think the same thing about the ban on firecrackers. In Italy (Napoli) they are produced illegally and just a few weeks ago a "production facility" (it was a normal house) blew up

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Patizi
Elite

Stromberg wrote on 08.01.2025 at 17:14:

There is a good case to be made for the opinion and certainly there would be some positive effects for society.

A general ban on advertising, a minimum age of 21 and a ban on playing football with a high Risk factor, for example, as well as 0.0 per mille in the car, I wouldn't say anything about that either.

Beyond that, however, it stops somewhere in terms of what the state has to dictate to me.

I would definitely find it a shame, although perhaps in retrospect because of my age😉, if I wasn't allowed to sit by the canal, Badesse, in the park or anywhere else in summer and drink a beer and have a barbecue.
If you weren't allowed to go out partying and have a drink except in special venues and then have to fire up the celebrity tester when you want to walk home.

On the beach, only people with money would be allowed to drink in beach bars with a license; those who can't afford it would be out of luck.

At home you can get drunk in Dubai, if I understand correctly, to address the issue of domestic violence.

No, I don't think much of it, but you can have different opinions, I can understand your reasoning.

Btw, such strict rules as in Dubai are of course not just a Muslim/Arab motivated thing, in Canada for example or partly also in the USA I think it is similar in public.

What kind of restrictions by the state? It's also about protecting others, from themselves and from others. Drinking at the canal, bathing lake or whatever often doesn't stop at a beer. It's just the kind of thing that invites people to meet there and get drunk. A ban in general is not necessary, but not in public would be something. There are places like bars etc. or at home. Of course, it's inconceivable in Germany because alcohol is very important here. You can smile at it now and say it's a staple food. Unfortunately, a lot of people in Germany really do see alcohol as a staple food and are therefore alcoholics.


As far as domestic violence is concerned, that's true of course.

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Patizi
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 08.01.2025 at 17:48: On the subject of alcohol, drugs etc., I don't think a ban would do any good. It would then be found on the black market. The Risk here is that people who know little about it will then produce these things and make them too strong. The problem is that people already know about these goods and will always want to consume them.

Everyone is responsible for themselves. The world is full of temptations. McD and co. could also be banned, as they promote obesity and the resulting diseases. However, in my opinion, they cannot be held responsible for this, as they do not force anyone to consume them. The same applies to cola and other companies that produce unhealthy food.

Edit: I think the same thing about the ban on firecrackers. In Italy (Napoli) they are produced illegally and just a few weeks ago a "production facility" (it was a normal house) blew up

Unfortunately, I can't agree with you. Not everyone is only responsible for themselves and it's also far too easy to break it down. Some people don't even have the mental strength to take responsibility for themselves.


Eat as much McD as you want, catch as many diseases as you want, but stop putting others in danger. Your example is not at all comparable to the topic of "drugs" because I am simply talking specifically about the fact that you are no longer in control of your senses. Drugs simply change your consciousness and that puts others in danger, in whatever form.

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Stromberg
Legend

Patizi wrote on 08.01.2025 at 18:00:

What kind of restrictions on the state? It's also about protecting others, from themselves and from others. Drinking at the canal, bathing lake or whatever often doesn't stop at a beer. It's just the kind of thing that invites people to meet there and get drunk. A ban in general is not necessary, but not in public would be something. There are places like bars etc. or at home. Of course, it's inconceivable in Germany because alcohol is very important here. You can smile at it now and say it's a staple food. Unfortunately, a lot of people in Germany really do see alcohol as a staple food and are therefore alcoholics.


As far as domestic violence is concerned, that is of course true.

Of course it doesn't stop with a beer😃


Well, as I said, I understand your opinion, the crime statistics also support your argument, but I'm against it in terms of freedom of the individual and protection of the general public.



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