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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1352)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1352 of 1360 | Answers: 13,592 | Views: 1,772,248
Falke
Expert

Druff wrote on 09.11.2024 at 04:05:

A big one for the US and the world.


No seriously God have mercy on our souls because we don't know what we are doing.

My thoughts on the image of the Palatine and the South African (even though it was a while ago, that trauma is still there) on stage as objectively as possible:

There are two very, very rich people on stage, telling people one off the horse.
And the crowd is stupid enough to cheer for these two rich people!!!

These two have zero, zero interest in the people, only in themselves.
If they thought differently, they would give all their money to the people, like Bill Gates did!!!

But he is demonized by the crowd that is cheering!!!

You really have to let that go through your head very slowly and then you realize how stupid a part of humanity has become!!!

And the only argument this stupid crowd has is that anyone who thinks otherwise is being manipulated by the media!!!



In short, brave new world.

Your post just shows today's times so well.


You write how stupid people are who cheer for billionaires and not even a paragraph later you are cheering for a billionaire yourself. Can you explain to me exactly why you are now so much smarter or, to stick with your choice of words, why you are now not one of the stupid ones when you cheer for a billionaire and yet, according to you, everyone who does so is stupid? Or are only those who cheer for the "wrong" billionaires, i.e. all those you don't like, stupid?

I would like to have a really logical and coherent answer to this and not a "he donates so much". Because the other two billionaires also "donate" quite a lot.

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Druff
Rookie
I'm not cheering for anyone, I'm saying one is labeled as the ultimate evil and I don't understand why Gates is supposed to be the evil one and elon the good one. And the only argument this crowd has is that the other side has allowed itself to be manipulated

Be it the fairy tale of microchips injected with vaccinations, be it the legendary deepstate, take Pizza Gate for example. It's all madness.

The fact is that one of them finances countless charitable projects with the largest foundation in the world, the "Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation", regardless of nation and personal benefits, and is demonized, while the other responds to a statement by a gentleman from the World Food Programme that world hunger could be stopped with a few billion, and says that if a plan is presented to him, he will finance it, but then you never hear anything about it again.

It goes on with his peace plan for the Ukraine, which is so ingenious and simply fulfills all the demands of the aggressor, only to shortly thereafter challenge blutin the inhuman to a "fight for the Ukraine" to finally aim for an MMA fight against Zuckerberg, which is accepted, and from then on, when he realizes it is accepted and taken seriously, he cancels the fight and you never hear anything in that direction again.

And this were gentleman is supposed to take on tasks in the US government? Why is that so abstruse, as soon as he is a member of the government he is not allowed to hold shares in companies, then of course he gives away his shares tax-free, with the possibility of redemption and yet he is supposed to be independent, although he competes with e.g. SpaceX for government contracts which he ultimately helps to award? Totally independent, of course, and only concerned with the welfare of the US American people.

And then the faceless masses who cheer him and the convicted felon are not stupid? Really?

And basically your claim is justified and understandable, but show me similar populist statements by Bill Gates.

So you demand that I express myself objectively, logically and conclusively and ignore the fact that these conspiracy theories to which I refer, and why my statement came about in the first place, are only spread by one side, I should argue objectively while others only spread some unsubstantiated claims. They eat the pets 🙄

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Falke
Expert

Druff wrote on 09.11.2024 at 05:57: I'm not cheering for anyone, I'm saying one is labeled as the ultimate evil and it doesn't make sense to me why Gates is supposed to be the evil one and elon the good one. And the only argument this crowd has is that the other side has allowed itself to be manipulated

Be it the fairy tale of microchips injected with vaccinations, be it the legendary deepstate, take Pizza Gate for example. It's all madness.

The fact is that one of them finances countless charitable projects with the largest foundation in the world, the "Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation", regardless of nation and personal benefits, and is demonized, while the other responds to a statement by a gentleman from the World Food Programme that world hunger could be stopped with a few billion, and says that if he is shown a plan he will finance it, but then you never hear anything about it again.

It goes on with his peace plan for the Ukraine, which is so ingenious and simply fulfills all the demands of the aggressor, only to shortly thereafter challenge blutin the inhuman to a "fight for the Ukraine" to finally aim for an MMA fight against Zuckerberg, which is accepted, and from then on, when he realizes it will be accepted and taken seriously, he cancels the fight and you never hear anything in that direction again.

And this were gentleman is supposed to take on tasks in the US government? Why is that so abstruse, as soon as he is a member of the government he is not allowed to hold shares in companies, then of course he gives away his shares tax-free, with the possibility of redemption and yet he is supposed to be independent, although he competes with e.g. SpaceX for government contracts which he ultimately helps to award? Totally independent, of course, and only concerned with the welfare of the US American people.

And then the faceless masses who cheer him and the convicted felon are not stupid? Really?

And basically your claim is justified and understandable, but show me similar populist statements by Bill Gates.

So you demand that I express myself objectively, logically and conclusively and ignore the fact that these conspiracy theories to which I refer, and why my statement came about in the first place, are only spread by one side, I should argue objectively while others only spread some unsubstantiated claims. They eat the pets 🙄


Thanks, everything I was thinking has been confirmed. So the stupid ones are just the ones cheering for the fake billionaires. So of course you're not.


By the way: Bill Gates is a real child prodigy. The only person in the world to donate his entire fortune and get richer and richer in the process. In the last 4 years alone, his fortune has tripled. But I'm not sure if you can even understand what that means. After all, you've read in the newspaper that Gates is a really good guy, so it must be true. He's even so nice that a few years ago he "donated" 380 million to all kinds of media/newspapers/television stations within the EU. Such a nice guy, too.

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Patizi
Elite

Falke wrote on 09.11.2024 at 14:55:

Thanks, confirmed everything I was thinking. So the stupid ones are only those who cheer for the wrong billionaires. Not you, of course.


By the way: Bill Gates is a real child prodigy. The only person in the world to donate his entire fortune and get richer and richer in the process. In the last 4 years alone, his fortune has tripled. But I'm not sure if you can even understand what that means. After all, you've read in the newspaper that Gates is a really good guy, so it must be true. He's even so nice that a few years ago he "donated" 380 million to all kinds of media/newspapers/television stations within the EU. What a nice guy he is.

I don't think anyone should donate anything anymore, because when someone donates, even that gets a bad rap. You could look at it this way Gates just gets richer, if that's the case, and at the same time he donates money and helps others. Win-win. But the point that Gates is getting richer is just not clear and therefore no one else should be helped.

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Falke
Expert

Patizi wrote on 09.11.2024 at 15:26:

I don't think anyone should donate anything anymore because when someone donates even that gets a bad rap. You could see it this way Gates just gets richer, if that's the case, and at the same time he donates money and helps others. Win-win. But the point that Gates is getting richer is just not clear and therefore no one else should be helped.

I don't think you understand. The fact that he donates anything is pure marketing gimmickry. He doesn't donate, he invests. That's a big difference. And he has tripled his fortune through these "donations". So he's not doing anything at the same time. He doesn't spend a single cent on anything that he doesn't expect to make a profit from.


The fact that everyone believes Gates is the self-sacrificing donor is because Gates has paid for this to be spread about him. It's also called a marketing campaign. It's only bad when people then take the marketing campaign at face value. Then suddenly normal people are defending a billionaire, even though he wouldn't even look at them with the A....

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frapi07
Elite

Falke wrote on 09.11.2024 at 15:34:

I don't think you get it. The fact that he's donating something is pure marketing gimmickry. He doesn't donate, he invests. That's a big difference. And he has tripled his fortune through these "donations". So he's not doing anything at the same time. He doesn't spend a single cent on anything that he doesn't expect to make a profit from.


The reason why everyone thinks Gates is the self-sacrificing donor is because Gates has paid for this to be spread about him. It's also called a marketing campaign. It's only bad when people then take the marketing campaign at face value. Then suddenly normal people are defending a billionaire, even though he wouldn't even look at them with the A....

Every celebrity who donates is somehow also doing it as an investment. The biggest investment is your own reputation. Take Shaq O Neal, for example. That guy donates a lot too, especially to kids. Take a look at YT and see how many videos you can find of him donating shoes, bikes or laptops to random kids. He certainly doesn't just do it for the love of it, but also for his image.

Shaq Shows Spanish Kids His Generosity (Clip) | Shaq Life | MORE (youtube.com)

Shaq buys sneakers for 6-year-old (youtube.com)

Shaq buys teen with big feet 10 pairs of shoes after hearing his mom can't afford sneakers (youtube.com)


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JJepsa96
Rookie

Falke wrote on 09.11.2024 at 15:34:

I don't think you get it. The fact that he's donating something is pure marketing gimmickry. He doesn't donate, he invests. That's a big difference. And he has tripled his fortune through these "donations". So he's not doing anything at the same time. He doesn't spend a single cent on anything that he doesn't expect to make a profit from.


The reason why everyone thinks Gates is the self-sacrificing donor is because Gates has paid for this to be spread about him. It's also called a marketing campaign. It's only bad when people then take the marketing campaign at face value. Then suddenly normal people are defending a billionaire, even though he wouldn't even look at them with the A....

He sits at the levers of power. Let's not kid ourselves. Absolutely right.


I take food to the food bank every now and then, that's enough for me to donate.

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Stromberg
Legend
I can't stand Bill Gates or Elon Musk...
And I've never been able to understand how you can cheer for people. Be it athletes, musicians or politicians, I've never had any sympathy for exaggerated personality cults... A 12-year-old can be forgiven for not knowing any better 😂 but I've always found adults who idolize celebrities ridiculous.

In the same way, I don't find it any more dramatic when a celebrity dies than the simultaneous deaths of thousands of other people around the world.

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frapi07
Elite

Stromberg wrote on 09.11.2024 at 16:49:

In the same way, I don't find it any more dramatic when a celebrity dies than the simultaneous deaths of thousands of other people around the world.

I can still remember when Queen Elizabeth II died. Many people stood there for hours to say goodbye to her.

I mean... everyone can do what they want, but personally I wouldn't wait 5-6 hours to say goodbye to someone who didn't even know me.

With singers/actors I like, I'm already a little clouded. Take Chester from LP, for example. Had awesome voice, LP's songs were so beautiful mainly because of his voice. The new LP (Chester has been replaced) doesn't really do it for me, although the woman can sing well too, but unfortunately it's just not the same feeling.

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DonDope420
Visitor
Why is it no longer possible to play Merkur or Novo anywhere?

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