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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1291)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1291 of 1380 | Answers: 13,799 | Views: 1,839,846
upola
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Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:22 pm CEST#13015
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frapi07 wrote on 09.09.2024 at 17:39:
If two, even three people go off on you, then it's harder to ignore the whole thing. But that doesn't really matter. Patizi has explained it several times: the ban is the result of years of provocation directed at various users. He is not to blame for this, but the two themselves are responsible for their bans, because they behaved in this way. They were not forced to always provoke. Patizi has also always given in. Even yesterday he had his post deleted with Julian's consent. The two were not so cooperative yesterday. As Julian himself writes, one ignored him coldly and the other danced around on his nose (wrote to him privately to stop the provocations, but then continued straight away). As a mod, you can't skillfully ignore something like that - that would be a fatal mistake


But that doesn't mean you have to go after them, but now it's easy, the users can no longer defend themselves.

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Patizi
Elite

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:28 pm CEST#13016
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Donnie wrote on 09.09.2024 at 17:28: You could have simply ignored the two now banned. Like a child who is crying and screaming, but would have cried himself out at some point and is quiet again. Blubbo is very special, almost everyone has clashed with him. I once called him an "official snob" and was given a warning, so I just kept my mouth shut

I don't even want to know how many times Julian or Andre have wanted to throw me off the cliff, i.e. wanted to ban me. I think it's stupid that they've been banned now, even if it was partly justified. Just ignore the guys and the problem would have gone away by itself


Oh well, they say they should stop. They say ok but carry on. So you're supposed to ignore that. You really need to put yesterday out of your mind. The barrel was full and yesterday it just spilled over. One point in Flensburg is ok. You'll get two more. Then another 4. You know that if I do anything else wrong now, I'll lose my license. So you've been warned. The law tells you, do one more wrong thing and your license is gone. What do you do? Be more careful or say to the law "Hey, let me let off steam. It can happen that I'm speeding." That's roughly how it is here. First warning, second warning, third warning...temp. ban, next warning, another warning and then we've reached the point where enough is enough. In my example, the driver's license is gone because you didn't follow the rules. Here you get a perm. You get a permanent ban if you break the rules over and over again, despite the many signs that you should drive down.

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Patizi
Elite

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:30 pm CEST#13017
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frapi07 wrote on 09.09.2024 at 17:39:
If two, even three people go off on you, then it's harder to ignore the whole thing. But that doesn't really matter. Patizi has explained it several times: the ban is the result of years of provocation directed at various users. He is not to blame for this, but the two themselves are responsible for their bans, because they behaved in this way. They were not forced to always provoke. Patizi has also always given in. Even yesterday he had his post deleted with Julian's consent. The two were not so cooperative yesterday. As Julian himself writes, one ignored him coldly and the other danced around on his nose (wrote to him privately to stop the provocations, but then continued straight away). As a mod, you can't skillfully ignore something like that - that would be a fatal mistake.

Strong! That's exactly what it looks like!

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upola
Legend

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:30 pm CEST#13018
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Patizi wrote on 09.09.2024 at 18:21:

How do you actually know that I didn't get a warning?


Tell me what happened before, if you're so into it. Why did I say that something had to happen there? Can you answer that or do you lack the knowledge?

And at the end you talk again about "but you won't be banned"! You're comparing me to them. I never had a temp ban or umpteen warnings. Why should I be banned? Whether I have already attracted negative attention for you is not relevant in this case because you are not the measure. The measure in this case is GJ and the two of them have been noticed incredibly often. I repeat myself. They both had a temp. ban. I didn't. They had the preliminary stage to the Perm. Ban. But now please answer my questions and don't ignore them. To what extent do you know what happened to judge all this. Faded out yesterday.

How do you know that they had dozens of warnings, were you informed about it?

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Patizi
Elite

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:36 pm CEST#13019
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upola wrote on 09.09.2024 at 18:30:

How do you know that they had umpteen warnings, were you informed about it?

Yes! I recommend you read everything first and then write because then you would know. Julian communicated it here.


No offense, but you don't actually know anything, do you?

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Falke
Expert

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:43 pm CEST#13020
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upola wrote on 09.09.2024 at 18:30:

How do you know that they had umpteen warnings, were you informed about it?

That raises the question of what they got the warnings for in the first place? As polarizing as Blubbo was, for example, I rarely saw anything that would have justified a warning. So if Blubbo got a warning every time just because he expressed his opinion a little more harshly, then the warnings themselves would be questionable.




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Dutch78
Expert

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:49 pm CEST#13021
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Completely detached from the proportionality or disproportionality of the blocking of the two, it is simply not appropriate to then verbally point out the misconduct of the users again and again. The two can no longer express themselves here and a discussion consists of at least two parties, so the whole thing here is too one-sided for me.

I'm not talking about the users who are against a ban, that still keeps the discussion very balanced, if so then only those directly involved can comment here and that's Julian and Patizi on one side and the other two on the other, but that's no longer possible. Of course you can discuss the decision itself, but you should completely leave out the negative comments about the two of them.

Even though I can understand Patizi's attempt to explain himself and the reasons he believes led to the ban, I don't understand why you repeat this ten times.
I think the inclined reader already understood it the first time, the other times led to confusion for me, because I got the impression that you couldn't understand some of the arguments of the other side and therefore wrote the same thing over and over again.

Personally, I think it's a shame that two points of friction have been removed, but again, I'm not concerned with the question of right/wrong, that's for others to judge.
Blubbo in particular was always very "vocal" in the forum and was certainly the basis for one or two discussions that would never have taken place without him.

Such characters may not reflect the "norm", but only normal is boring in the long run.
Characters like that liven up the forum, it's the controversy that makes it exciting.
It's not just their contributions that will be missing, but also what would have developed from them.

You can have whatever opinion you like about them and if you ignore all the surrounding issues and forget all personal feelings for a moment, then they were not an insignificant part of GambleJoe.

Anyway, I wish Blubbo and x00NY, if they are reading this, all the best for the future.




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Patizi
Elite

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:52 pm CEST#13022
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Falke wrote on 09.09.2024 at 18:43:

The question arises as to what they got the warnings for in the first place? As polarizing as Blubbo was, for example, I've only rarely seen anything that would have justified a warning. So if Blubbo got a warning every time just because he expressed his opinion a little more harshly, then the warnings themselves would be questionable.





Julian has also provided an example here. Blubbo says he's quitting and carries on straight away.


And the question of why they have received any warnings in recent YEARS is absolutely irrelevant. The fact is they were forewarned. And I don't know how many times you've been temp. banned and how many warnings you've had, but I don't think you've been banned yet. It's probably because you behave differently to the two of them. Because if GJ would just hand out bans and warnings so easily, then you can certainly report from your own experience. At least I can't confirm that there are bans and warnings so quickly. On the contrary, there is always an attempt to communicate. Just like in the case of the two of them.

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upola
Legend

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:56 pm CEST#13023
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Patizi wrote on 09.09.2024 at 18:36:

Yes! I recommend you read everything first and then write because then you would know. Julian communicated it here.


I mean no offense, but you don't actually know anything, do you?

I think I'm the third person you've told.

It's nice that you know everything, you're a real checker.

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frapi07
Elite

Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 06:58 pm CEST#13024
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upola wrote on 09.09.2024 at 18:22:


That's not why you have to kick, but now it's easy, the users can no longer defend themselves.

I don't think that's okay either and Julian has already warned us and asked us to refrain from it. He didn't mention any names, he meant all of us. I also don't see that he's going after us now, he just explained that the two of them were about to be banned and had often attracted negative attention in the past. They didn't care and happily continued to provoke. The target was now Patizi, but it could have been me or someone else.

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