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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1287)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1287 of 1309 | Answers: 13,086 | Views: 1,679,385
Patizi
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Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:28 pm CEST#12975
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frapi07 wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:26:

Ask yourself if you would let a customer treat you like that at work. Julian is a moderator and has authority here. If you deliberately ignore instructions and continue to do so, even though you have had several warnings and a temp ban in the past, then a timeout will not help either.

The problem is that in this case, too, the judgment is based on sympathy and not objectively, as you have done. That's why I think your summary is really good

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frapi07
Elite

Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:33 pm CEST#12976
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Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:28:

The problem is that even in this case it is simply judged by sympathy and not objectively, as you have done. That's why I think your summary is really good

Speaking of which, it wouldn't have been fair if they had been given a temp ban or a timeout. At least not against others who were also temp banned once before and then perm banned.

and yes, you also have to put yourself in Julian's shoes. I can understand him there, since I worked at the gas station for 5 months. I was made a fool of. At first I put up with it too, but at some point I turned up the heat and gave him a warning and, if it wasn't enough, banned him from the premises. If you just look at it today, you quickly realize that it really went too far.

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Falke
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Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:36 pm CEST#12977
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frapi07 wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:26:

Ask yourself if you would let a customer treat you like that at work. Julian is a moderator and has authority here. If you deliberately ignore instructions and continue to do so, even though you have had several warnings and a temp ban in the past, then a timeout will not help either.

Frapi, don't be angry with me. I appreciate you so much as a person, but your opinion on this isn't exactly interesting to me. I hardly know anyone here who celebrates everything, but really everything, that someone from the GJ team does as much as you do. So you don't have to jump in here once again in anticipatory obedience. I think Julian is a smart guy and he can argue for himself.


But while you're here, you're actually a good example. Do you know that there are also many users who are annoyed by your long posts? And, above all, that you keep repeating yourself and never let up? Is that why you should be banned here? I think no. But just because some people here are annoyed by the way the two of them talk, is a ban justified? You've often taken a slightly harsher tone, but I didn't realize that we're in pink purple lala land here, where we all throw glittery marshmallows at each other so that nobody feels uncomfortable.

I in particular had my problems with Blubbo and had the odd argument with him. But I would never have wanted him to be banned just because he sometimes got on my nerves. After all, we're adults and we can stand up for ourselves. And putting Blubbo in his place wasn't exactly the hardest task.

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frapi07
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Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:42 pm CEST#12978
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Falke wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:36:

Frapi, don't be angry with me. I really appreciate you as a person, but your opinion on this is not exactly interesting to me. I hardly know anyone here who celebrates everything, but really everything, that someone from the GJ team does as much as you do. So you don't have to jump in here once again in anticipatory obedience. I think Julian is a smart guy and he can argue for himself.


But while you're here, you're actually a good example. Do you know that there are also many users who are annoyed by your long posts? And, above all, that you keep repeating yourself and never let up? Is that why you should be banned here? I think no. But just because some people here are annoyed by the way the two of them talk, is a ban justified? You've often taken a slightly harsher tone, but I didn't realize that we're in pink purple lala land here, where we all throw glittery marshmallows at each other so that nobody feels uncomfortable.

I in particular had my problems with Blubbo and had the odd argument with him. But I would never have wanted him to be banned just because he sometimes got on my nerves. After all, we are adults and we can stand up for ourselves. And putting Blubbo in his place wasn't exactly the hardest task.

I certainly don't dislike everything... read through the mod thread, where I even admit that I like certain points of criticism. So please don't label me as a suck-up, because I'm not. I always try to be as objective as possible and if I'm wrong, I accept it and apologize.

Of course I know that, I'm not upside down and I realize that there are users who don't like my writing. But you have to know one thing: I'm not breaking any forum rules and most importantly I'm not disrespecting the authority of a mod. The two were banned because of that, not because of the criticism they expressed towards Julian. If a mod writes to you and asks you to refrain from provocation, you don't ignore it. If you do, then you are playing with fire and will face consequences.


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Falke
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Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:44 pm CEST#12979
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Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:28:

The problem is that even in this case it is simply judged by sympathy and not objectively, as you have done. That's why I think your summary is really good

You're not seriously saying that you're not judging on sympathy in this case? There's not a trace of objectivity in you. My posts are objective because I had no sympathy for Blubbo. On the contrary. There are only a few users here who have annoyed me as much as he has. And the other user, I didn't even really notice him. So I have no connection to him at all.


So the only one here who judges on sympathy is you in this case.

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Falke
Expert

Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:56 pm CEST#12980
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frapi07 wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:42:
I'm certainly not slagging everything off... read through the mod thread, I even admit to liking certain criticisms there. So please don't label me as a suck-up, because I'm not. I always try to be as objective as possible and if I'm wrong, I accept it and apologize.

Of course I know that, I'm not upside down and I realize that there are users who don't like my writing. But you have to know one thing: I'm not breaking any forum rules and most importantly I'm not disrespecting the authority of a mod. The two were banned because of that, not because of the criticism they expressed towards Julian. If a mod writes to you and asks you to refrain from provocation, you don't ignore it. If you do, then you are playing with fire and will face consequences.



You're just someone who destroys almost every discussion. So yes, you are actually breaking the forum rules.


As in this case once again. Without being asked, you immediately take over Julian's role, you even want to know his thoughts and of course you know exactly how and what happened.
And you would have no problem writing three novels about it again, ignoring all the opinions and answers of the other users and once again completely taking center stage.

And you're not even contributing anything of your own, but writing from Julian's point of view. What he apparently thought, how he supposedly saw it, etc. You even go so far as to believe you know his emotional world. And as I've already mentioned, I believe that Julian can speak for himself very well and certainly doesn't need you to do so.

My post was aimed directly at him. For some reason, however, you feel called upon to speak on his behalf here. As far as I'm personally concerned, however, I don't care about any other opinion than yours. Sorry to tell you that so directly. But I think that's how many people here feel. It just needed someone to say it out loud.

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Patizi
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Chatterbox

8th Sep. 2024, at 11:57 pm CEST#12981
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Falke wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:44:

You're not seriously saying that you're not judging by sympathy in this case? You have no trace of objectivity. My posts are objective because I had no sympathy for Blubbo. On the contrary. There are only a few users here who have annoyed me as much as he has. And the other user, I didn't even really notice him. So I have no connection to him at all.


So the only one here who judges on sympathy is you in this case.

I think you're taking sides with your ignorance a lot. But please, please convince me that I'm wrong and list everything that has come from Blubbo in my direction.

Incidentally, you can also explain to me directly where I judge by sympathy when it comes to things that concern me.

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Patizi
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Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 12:05 am CEST#12982
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Falke wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:56:

You're just someone who destroys almost every discussion. So yes, you are actually breaking the forum rules.


As in this case once again. Without being asked, you immediately take over Julian's role, you even want to know his thoughts and of course you know exactly how and what happened.
And you would have no problem writing three novels about it again, ignoring all the opinions and answers of the other users and once again completely taking center stage.

And you're not even contributing anything of your own, but writing from Julian's point of view. What he apparently thought, how he supposedly saw it, etc. You even go so far as to believe you know his emotional world. And as I've already mentioned, I believe that Julian can speak for himself very well and certainly doesn't need you to do so.

My post was aimed directly at him. For some reason, however, you feel called upon to speak on his behalf here. As far as I'm personally concerned, however, I don't care about any other opinion than yours. Sorry to tell you that so directly. But I think that's how many people here feel. It just needed someone to say it out loud.

What you wrote can also be applied to you in a wonderful way. It's difficult to accuse someone of writing novels when you do it yourself. You think Frapi speaks for Julian or believes it and accuses him of it. But at the end of your "novel" you think you speak for others. It just doesn't fit together either. Difficult Difficult

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Falke
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Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 12:06 am CEST#12983
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Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 23:57:

I think you're taking sides a lot with your ignorance. But please, please convince me that I am wrong and list everything that has come from Blubbo in my direction.

By the way, can you explain to me directly where I judge by sympathy when it comes to things that concern me?

Tell me, are you serious right now? You complained a lot about them in the other thread and demanded harsh consequences. Just 10 minutes later they were both banned. So you may have even incited Julian to ban them. And now you want to say something about objectivity and that you don't judge by sympathy?


And actually, you should be banned at the same time. Or was it very objective when you accused him of leading such an unhappy life? That he's so unhappy with himself? So you were just as inciting and Blubbo even defended himself to some extent. And then Blubbo of all people is banned?

No, nothing was objective here. Neither from you nor from Julian.

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frapi07
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Chatterbox

9th Sep. 2024, at 12:08 am CEST#12984
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A friendly user advised me not to go any further, so I'll leave it at that.

But I would write one more thing to Falke: you don't need to apologize for your directness. Being direct and honest is not a bad thing, quite the opposite and no, I don't take it personally.

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