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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1285)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1285 of 1347 | Answers: 13,460 | Views: 1,750,904
Julian
Elite
Good evening dear community.

Unfortunately I had to ban two members from our community today. They are x00NY and Blubbo33.

Both members have already received a certain number of warnings in the past and we have already pointed out their provocative behavior and written to them several times via the Communicator.
Several attempts have been made to come to a common denominator with both members in the hope that they can continue to participate in the forum without constantly and deliberately provoking other members. We have also often taken the time to try and settle disputes with other members. Mostly without success, unfortunately.

Today, Blubbo once again posted a comment in the sports betting section to deliberately provoke a member and accuse him of only participating in the sports betting section because he relies on Paysafe cards.
This comment was then deleted by me for provocation and a conversation was sought with him via the Communicator.

Unfortunately, this message was read but skillfully ignored.
And a short time later, he posted provocative content in the forum again.
Unfortunately, that was the end of it. I really tried very often to talk to him in the hope that his behavior towards other members would change. Unfortunately, I have completely lost this hope as a result of today's experience.

X00NY's situation is actually quite similar.
As described above, he too had long since exceeded the tolerance limit for warnings and we pointed out his behavior several times via Communicator.
In the last few days, he also attracted a lot of attention in the forum due to his provocations. To be fair, it has to be said that he then sought a conversation with me on his own initiative. At the beginning of the conversation, the accusation was that it wasn't right that I could insult him, but that he wasn't allowed to insult me in return. When I asked him where he had insulted me, he withdrew the question and apologized shortly afterwards, saying that he would refrain from provoking me in the forum. Before I could reply, however, I saw that he had already continued in the forum and was provoking other members.

As this is unfortunately not new behavior for either member, but is always repeated and there is absolutely no hope of understanding. I have made the decision to ban these two members. I understand very well that some members in the forum certainly cannot understand this behavior, but I personally do not see why we should be danced around like this.

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Patizi
Elite

Julian wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:29: Good evening dear community.

Unfortunately I had to ban two members from our community today. They are x00NY and Blubbo33.

Both members have already received a certain number of warnings in the past and we have already pointed out and written to them several times via the Communicator about their provocative behavior.
Several attempts have been made to come to a common denominator with both members in the hope that they can continue to participate in the forum without constantly and deliberately provoking other members. We have also often taken the time to try and settle disputes with other members. Mostly without success, unfortunately.

Today, Blubbo once again posted a comment in the sports betting section to deliberately provoke a member and accuse him of only participating in the sports betting section because he relies on Paysafe cards.
This comment was then deleted by me for provocation and a conversation was sought with him via the Communicator.

Unfortunately, this message was read but skillfully ignored.
And a short time later, he posted provocative content in the forum again.
Unfortunately, that was the end of it. I really tried very often to talk to him in the hope that his behavior towards other members would change. Unfortunately, I have completely lost this hope as a result of today's experience.

X00NY's situation is actually quite similar.
As described above, he too had long since exceeded the tolerance limit for warnings and we pointed out his behavior several times via Communicator.
In the last few days, he also attracted a lot of attention in the forum due to his provocations. To be fair, it has to be said that he then sought a conversation with me on his own initiative. At the beginning of the conversation, the accusation was that it wasn't right that I could insult him, but that he wasn't allowed to insult me in return. When I asked him where he had insulted me, he withdrew the question and apologized shortly afterwards, saying that he would refrain from provoking me in the forum. Before I could reply, however, I saw that he had already continued in the forum and was provoking other members.

As this is unfortunately not new behavior for either member, but is always repeated and there is absolutely no hope of understanding. I have made the decision to ban these two members. I understand very well that some members in the forum certainly cannot understand this behavior, but I personally do not see why we should be danced around like this.

Absolutely understandable! It's not just because of today. These two have often attracted negative attention in the past and this is now the consequence of that. And today I had another communication with a member about Blubbo. They also said that they were annoyed but ignored it because nothing would happen anyway. This site doesn't belong to any of us and you have to abide by the rules. Just because I and others have been here forever, we shouldn't start thinking of GJ as our thing. In the end we are users who simply use this forum.

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Lionking
Top Member

Julian wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:29: Good evening dear community.

Unfortunately I had to ban two members from our community today. They are x00NY and Blubbo33.

Both members have already received a certain number of warnings in the past and we have already pointed out and written to them several times via the Communicator about their provocative behavior.
Several attempts have been made to come to a common denominator with both members in the hope that they can continue to participate in the forum without constantly and deliberately provoking other members. We have also often taken the time to try and settle disputes with other members. Mostly without success, unfortunately.

Today, Blubbo once again posted a comment in the sports betting section to deliberately provoke a member and accuse him of only participating in the sports betting section because he relies on Paysafe cards.
This comment was then deleted by me for provocation and a conversation was sought with him via the Communicator.

Unfortunately, this message was read but skillfully ignored.
And a short time later, he posted provocative content in the forum again.
Unfortunately, that was the end of it. I really tried very often to talk to him in the hope that his behavior towards other members would change. Unfortunately, I have completely lost this hope as a result of today's experience.

X00NY's situation is actually quite similar.
As described above, he too had long since exceeded the tolerance limit for warnings and we pointed out his behavior several times via Communicator.
In the last few days, he also attracted a lot of attention in the forum due to his provocations. To be fair, it has to be said that he then sought a conversation with me on his own initiative. At the beginning of the conversation, the accusation was that it wasn't right that I could insult him, but that he wasn't allowed to insult me in return. When I asked him where he had insulted me, he withdrew the question and apologized shortly afterwards, saying that he would refrain from provoking me in the forum. Before I could reply, however, I saw that he had already continued in the forum and was provoking other members.

As this is unfortunately not new behavior for either member, but is always repeated and there is absolutely no hope of understanding. I have made the decision to ban these two members. I understand very well that some members in the forum certainly cannot understand this behavior, but I personally do not see why we should be danced around like this.

It's awesome, I personally found it all quite harmless, but of course I don't know what else went on via PN and so on.

But it must have added up quite nicely if you exclude 2 regular users.

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frapi07
Elite
Julian wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:29: Good evening dear community.

Unfortunately I had to ban two members from our community today. They are x00NY and Blubbo33.

Both members have already received a certain number of warnings in the past and we have already pointed out and written to them several times via the Communicator about their provocative behavior.
Several attempts have been made to come to a common denominator with both members in the hope that they can continue to participate in the forum without constantly and deliberately provoking other members. We have also often taken the time to try and settle disputes with other members. Mostly without success, unfortunately.

Today, Blubbo once again posted a comment in the sports betting section to deliberately provoke a member and accuse him of only participating in the sports betting section because he relies on Paysafe cards.
This comment was then deleted by me for provocation and a conversation was sought with him via the Communicator.

Unfortunately, this message was read but skillfully ignored.
And a short time later, he posted provocative content in the forum again.
Unfortunately, that was the end of it. I really tried very often to talk to him in the hope that his behavior towards other members would change. Unfortunately, I have completely lost this hope as a result of today's experience.

X00NY's situation is actually quite similar.
As described above, he too had long since exceeded the tolerance limit for warnings and we pointed out his behavior several times via Communicator.
In the last few days, he also attracted a lot of attention in the forum due to his provocations. To be fair, it has to be said that he then sought a conversation with me on his own initiative. At the beginning of the conversation, the accusation was that it wasn't right that I could insult him, but that he wasn't allowed to insult me in return. When I asked him where he had insulted me, he withdrew the question and apologized shortly afterwards, saying that he would refrain from provoking me in the forum. Before I could reply, however, I saw that he had already continued in the forum and was provoking other members.

As this is unfortunately not new behavior for either member, but is always repeated and there is absolutely no hope of understanding. I have made the decision to ban these two members. I understand very well that some members in the forum certainly cannot understand this behavior, but I personally do not see why we should be danced around like this.

I had already written to you at lunchtime today that I thought it was good that you intervened and deleted his post, at least with Patizi's consent. I was afraid it would escalate and unfortunately it did.

Too bad about the two of them, because they were sometimes provocative, but also always wrote good posts. Both were active in sports and certainly added value there.

But if you skillfully disregard the authority of a GJ employee, then you have to expect something like this. I don't hold it against you, because you could just tell that it sometimes went to a personal level and as an employee you don't have to put up with that. I also experienced in my part-time job at the petrol station that some customers didn't recognize my authority and provoked me. I also had to crack down on them and if you don't do that, then you're not taken seriously and you suffer because you don't feel like doing your job.

To the two of you: if you're reading this, I wish you all the best.

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Patizi
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:53:
I had already written to you at noon today that I thought it was good that you intervened and deleted his post, at least with Patizi's consent. I was afraid it would escalate and unfortunately it did.

Too bad about the two of them, because they were sometimes provocative, but also always wrote good posts. Both were active in sports and certainly added value there.

But if you skillfully disregard the authority of a GJ employee, then you have to expect something like this. I don't hold it against you, because you could just tell that it sometimes went to a personal level and as an employee you don't have to put up with that. I also experienced in my part-time job at the petrol station that some customers didn't recognize authority and were provocative.

I think you summed it up well.

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upola
Legend

Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:44:

Absolutely understandable! It's not just because of today. These two have often attracted negative attention in the past and this is now the consequence of that. And today I had another communication with a member about Blubbo. They also said that they were annoyed but ignored it because nothing would happen anyway. This site doesn't belong to any of us and you have to abide by the rules. Just because I and others have been here forever, we shouldn't start thinking of GJ as our thing. In the end we are users who simply use this forum.

And now we're still kicking, that's shabby.

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frapi07
Elite

Patizi wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:55:

I think you sum it up well.

I just hope that most will understand that the two were not banned because of the criticism, but because they repeatedly ignored Julian's admonitions/warnings and repeated their misbehavior several times.

You also have to understand Julian, he put up with a lot and at some point it has to end. But only people who have/had customer contact at work can understand that.

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Julian
Elite

Lionking wrote on 08.09.2024 at 22:51:

It's awesome, I personally found it all quite harmless, but of course I don't know what else went on via PN and so on.

But it must have added up quite nicely if you exclude 2 regular users.

I can even imagine that this might seem pretty harmless to an outsider.
I think it may be important to look at the whole package in order to understand the decision properly.
This also includes communication and an insight into all the events leading up to it.
Unfortunately, it is very difficult to summarize this in a single article.

It's not every day that a regular member is banned, even if it may sound absurd, but it was indeed not an easy decision for me. But unfortunately it was unavoidable because you have to set certain boundaries.

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Julian
Elite
Generally speaking, however, I would ask for the necessary respect not to take any more sideswipes at the two former members.
Especially given the situation that they can no longer express themselves here, that would not seem particularly fair.

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upola
Legend
They're banned and that's that, there's no need to write another novel about it.
I'm not talking about you Julian

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