Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1222)

gamble1 wrote on 06.07.2024 at 10:48: What do you actually say about the game yesterday?

I think and is as I have now heard the opinion of 90% of other people Spain has really undeservedly won

In terms of play, we were much stronger after going behind, Spain only played for time and the handball, which was not even noticed despite 10,000 cameras, cost us a lot in the end

I would almost say that Switzerland played better and they even had their own referee on their side

But let's hear your opinions

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Butterbrezel wrote on 06.07.2024 at 12:11 pm:

That's just because there are about 1000 rules for handball. Even in the Bundesliga, such handball has often not been whistled.

The reason given by referee expert Ittrich was that the hand movement was away from the enlarged body area, which under these rules gives the right not to give the penalty.

Mega nonsense in my opinion and in my view a clearly wrong decision.

But you also have to say that the German team was lucky to continue playing with 11 players.

Kroos couldn't have complained to some referees about a red card for the foul on Pedri. He goes to such extremes on the player and thereby accepts an injury (which unfortunately it was). Not on purpose, of course, but an action like that is at least a yellow card. With the subsequent fouls, a red card would have been justified at the latest.

As it was, it was a game between two evenly matched teams, as the statistics show.

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gamble1 wrote on 06.07.2024 at 12:25 pm:

I'm not saying Spain played badly I just meant in my personal opinion Germany was stronger and Spain had more luck than talent in that match yesterday


The start of Kroos was really too hard and I was really sorry because who likes to end their game after 8 minutes because of an injury

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Butterbrezel wrote on 06.07.2024 at 12:11 pm:

That's just because there are about 1000 rules for handball. Even in the Bundesliga, such handball has often not been whistled.

The reason given by referee expert Ittrich was that the hand movement was away from the enlarged body area, which under these rules gives the right not to give the penalty.

Mega nonsense in my opinion and in my view a clearly wrong decision.

But you also have to say that the German team was lucky to continue playing with 11 players.

Kroos couldn't have complained to some referees about a red card for the foul on Pedri. He goes to such extremes on the player and thereby accepts an injury (which unfortunately it was). Not on purpose, of course, but an action like that is at least a yellow card. With the subsequent fouls, a red card would have been justified at the latest.

As it was, it was a game between two evenly matched teams, as the statistics show.

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gamble1 wrote on 06.07.2024 at 12:25 pm:

The start of Kroos was really too hard and I was really sorry because who likes to end their game after 8 minutes because of an injury

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frapi07 wrote on 06.07.2024 at 15:02:
Ittrich has also stated that there is a possibility for interpretation in the rules. He doesn't like the fact that there is this possibility either. You can only agree with that. It should be clearly defined when a penalty is a handball and when it is not. There should also be no possibility of interpretation. But it's difficult to do, many people simply forget that judges often make different judgments. It all depends on the circumstances or, in this case, the referee's reasoning. It's possible that many referees would have judged the hand as outstretched, but the Taylor didn't because the shot a) came from a short distance and b) was very sharp and hard. You can understand that somewhere, otherwise you could shoot wildly in the penalty area and hope for a penalty.

You can't really say much about Kroos, except that he was very lucky.


I've already written that you shouldn't dwell on the penalty. Germany had ENOUGH chances to win the game in the 90 minutes. The chances they had from the 70th to the 90th minute alone are enough. They didn't and that's because their chance conversion wasn't good. Not even Italy have a worse chance conversion rate and in my opinion they delivered the worst performance in the Tournament, worse than teams that were eliminated in the group stage. Italy only made it through the group stage thanks to Donnarumma, but that's another matter.

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Butterbrezel wrote on 06.07.2024 at 15:39:

Yes, Italy is of course annoying. Far below their capabilities. The German team presented itself differently than in previous years, so it fits.


2 of my 4 European Championship picks are still open, so I still have a chance of a decent win.

Italy - out
Albania - out (was only a selection anyway because of the extreme odds)
Turkey - odds 125.0 open
Holland - odds 25.0 open

My Euro final Tip (as of now): Spain - Holland

Then the Dutch go left...and right...and left...and right...uuuuuand goal

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