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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1196)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1196 of 1324 | Answers: 13,237 | Views: 1,716,395
frapi07
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6th Jun. 2024, at 12:50 pm CEST#12047
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Blubbo33 wrote on 06/06/2024 12:31:

So emigrate for 1800 net income ?!


I would rather stay at home, especially since that has no future in terms of promotion opportunities!

At best you could move to Malta to get away from Germany for 1-2 years!

But the job at gamblejoe has no prospects, hence the fluctuation!

Just an estimate. I can't say how much you earn at GJ. But I suspect that if you work 160 hours a month, you won't earn more than 2k net. In Germany, you currently earn just under 2.9k gross (2925€) in the TV-L (public service) with a classification in EG 6 level 1 (i.e. after three years of training). With tax class 1, single, without children and aged 30, this would be just under 2k (1994€) net at 160h/month. However, your salary will not remain the same, as you always move up a step after 2-3 years.

However, I deliberately didn't use this for my example, but assumed an hourly wage of around €15 gross. The net figure is then approx. 1.8k for 160 hours/month. This is well above the current and future minimum wage. In addition, I can imagine that the hourly wage for this job fits quite well.

And yes, 1.8k is definitely too little for emigration, I agree. Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong in my assessment, I would personally hope for more and it would have to be around 2.3k - 2.5k net. But to be honest, I find it hard to believe that GJ pays such salaries for a moderator.

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Langhans_innen
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Chatterbox

6th Jun. 2024, at 01:06 pm CEST#12048
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It would certainly be exciting if everyone were to name their profession and everyone else were to discuss how much they probably earn To me it seems a bit ...let's say...strange in the sense of irritating when people openly speculate and calculate what a GJ employee earns But it could also be that I'm just a bit too stiff

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frapi07
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Chatterbox

6th Jun. 2024, at 01:13 pm CEST#12049
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Langhans wrote on 06.06.2024 at 13:06: It would certainly be exciting if everyone would now name their profession and everyone else would then discuss how much they probably earn To me, it just seems a bit ...let's say...strange in the sense of irritating when people here openly speculate and calculate what a GJ employee earns But it could also be that I'm just a bit too stiff

Depends on many factors. Collective agreement, location (West/East) etc.

Why is that irritating? The fact is that the salary for a vacancy is also a decisive factor in the decision. It is not without reason that many companies state the annual salary in their advertisements.

Ultimately, how much you can earn at GJ probably depends on your qualifications and the position. As a simple moderator, however, I suspect that the salary will be rather low.

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B****3

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6th Jun. 2024, at 01:17 pm CEST#12050
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Langhans wrote on 06.06.2024 at 13:06: It would certainly be exciting if everyone would now name their profession and everyone else would then discuss how much they probably earn To me it seems a bit ...let's say...strange in the sense of irritating when people here openly speculate and calculate what a GJ employee earns But it could also be that I'm just a bit too stiff

Why ?


It was just an assumption!

And the realization that at least I would not emigrate for 1800 net !

No matter if gamblejoe or joegamble!

What about his salary or not?

It's anonymous here so I wouldn't care !

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Dr-Strange
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Chatterbox

6th Jun. 2024, at 01:27 pm CEST#12051
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Yes, there are some additional factors for some people, for example, you receive a monthly bonus of xxx if you are not absent/sick in the current month, which should help some people not to pick up the phone at the first little whisper, but to think about whether they really want to do without the sum of xxx per month just because they don't have the motivation today
Depending on the position, in my case shift supervisor, there are further payments.so for 2K I definitely wouldn't take the step either, not even if I were single. At least that's what I think now, I have no idea what I would have done a few years earlier

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Langhans_innen
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6th Jun. 2024, at 01:31 pm CEST#12052
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Ok ok....people, I'm too stiff Basically, I find nothing wrong with talking about my salary...Anyone can know what I do for a living. As a rule - at least that's my experience - it's the other way around for many people and I saw it more from the perspective of the "little moderator" (as I just read), whose salary is publicly calculated here. But maybe he's laughing his head off and thinking: "paah, nothing 1,800 a month. If only the smart guys knew that I get 2,900 net"

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6th Jun. 2024, at 01:33 pm CEST#12053
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To be honest, I would celebrate such a thread where you name your profession, I mean you could really give your own assessments and you could see where some professions are classified, at least from the personal perception of different people

So you could certainly learn one or the other or possibly reorient yourself professionally because there are also enough areas that pay different money for the same work and it is only the difference in which state you live or whether the company is small or large

As long as this is normal and not insulting to people who don't earn 10k a month, I would actually find this really cool

On the subject of money, you don't talk about it! This used to be quite normal, but in a time where even the labor laws prohibit contracts where "employees are not allowed to talk about their salary", this has become very normalized

In our circle of friends, but also when you get to know new people, one of the first questions is often "what do you work for", closely followed by "what do you earn there?

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Dr-Strange
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Chatterbox

6th Jun. 2024, at 01:42 pm CEST#12054
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Langhans wrote on 06.06.2024 at 13:31: Ok ok....guys, I say: I'm too stiff Basically, I find nothing wrong with talking about my salary...anyone can know what I do for a living. As a rule - at least that's my experience - it's the other way around for many people and I saw it more from the perspective of the "little moderator" (as I just read), whose salary is publicly calculated here. But maybe he's laughing his head off and thinking: "paah, nothing 1,800 a month. If only the smart guys knew that I get 2,900 net"

The GJ people are now sitting there with their monocle & top hat with a Cuban & looking at their 24 carat pocket watch and complaining about where the delivery man with the ivory table is. like this and nothing else! 🤫

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frapi07
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Chatterbox

6th Jun. 2024, at 01:51 pm CEST#12055
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Dr-Strange wrote on 06.06.2024 at 13:27: Yes, there are some factors that come into play for some people, for example, you get a monthly bonus xxx if you are not absent/sick in the current month. should serve to make some people not pick up the phone at the first little whisper, but think about whether they really want to do without the sum xxx per month just because you don't have the motivation today

I would then be rich I have only been ill for 1 week in the last 2.5 years (Corona). But I have to admit that I'm also more relaxed because I work from home. So I don't take sick leave for a mild headache or a slight cold. It would be different if I were in a production hall. I once worked for the QA department of a company and the air conditioning was on 24/7. You really don't want to go there if you have a cold. Putting on thick clothes wasn't a solution back then either, as it was summer

Langhans wrote on 06.06.2024 at 13:31: Ok ok....guys, I say: I'm too stiff I basically find nothing wrong with talking about my salary...anyone can know what I do for a living. As a rule - at least that's my experience - it's the other way around for many people and I saw it more from the perspective of the "little moderator" (as I just read), whose salary is publicly calculated here. But maybe he's laughing his head off and thinking: "paah, nothing 1,800 a month. If only the smart guys knew that I get 2,900 net"


As mentioned before, I strongly suspect that it varies. It depends on the qualification and also on the tasks.

GJ is currently also looking for a online editor. Prerequisite: university degree. The salary will be more than my assumed 1.8k net/month. You don't need a university degree to be a simple moderator and I estimate that the pay for such jobs is similar to that of support staff. They are also usually a bit above the minimum wage.


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Dr-Strange
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6th Jun. 2024, at 01:59 pm CEST#12056
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frapi07 wrote on 06.06.2024 at 13:51:


As mentioned before, I strongly suspect it varies. Depends on the qualification and also on the tasks.

GJ is currently also looking for a online editor. Prerequisite: university degree. The salary will be more than my assumed 1.8k net/month. You don't need a university degree to be a simple moderator and I estimate that the pay for such jobs is similar to that of support staff. They are also usually a bit above the minimum wage.



In that case, we're pretty much the same, I might be sick once in 2 years, but then I'm really sick and nothing works anymore


Well, you won't get rich with the attendance bonus now, but it's a great gesture/motivation from the boss, and if someone from your department gets sick or doesn't feel like it, his bonus is divided among the other colleagues, so it's fine with me if one or the other cardboard nose doesn't feel like it for a day.😇😂
And there's always that one specialist who's absent at least once a month - he doesn't seem to want the money, the rest are happy.

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