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( no plan how to quote the top part when there are 2 quotes in the post... 🤔)
Frapi wrote:
"Yeah, but that's the point. As Toastbrot writes it would be a thousand times better to be more competitive. Instead, competition is declared illegal.
No kidding, wouldn't you go to a legal OC where you don't have these bullshit rules in preference to a Curacao or Malta OC? I would. Mainly because a legal OC guarantees you a payout and you can be sure that the OC will come up with any stories to avoid having to pay out your wins. But that's just my opinion, maybe you disagree and would play somewhere else despite a legal provider."
I no longer play in illegal casinos. I've already explained the reasons for this. Roughly summarized: the last bit of understanding for my hobby would go down the drain with my girlfriend if I got into trouble with the bank or the public prosecutor's office because of it. And before I start with wallet etc., where I'm not sure in the end either, I've reduced the activity to a minimum at the German shops that offer the normal RTP plus tax and those that have the play n go to at least 91 percent.
That to answer whether I would play in illegal casinos if the German ones were set up the same as the normal casinos, so no. And I would be very happy if that were the case and I could use the German casinos like Malta or Curacao casinos.
What I really just wanted to say is:
Yes, if you regulate something and offers that do not fulfill the regulations are not allowed, it is clear that they are not allowed to be advertised.
Yes, the regulation is poorly done and continues to (rightly) drive customers to the black market.
Yes, it all gives the impression that the Player protection mechanisms are just a pretext to justify regulation and levy absurd taxes.
Yes, it obviously favors certain German gambling providers.
Yes, you could offer much better player protection and strengthen the legal market with a better concept without absurd restrictions.
But yes, this has all been said about 70,000 times and I see little point in discussing it again and again, in this case because GJ rightly wants to legally protect its business.
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I always do it like this: quote something that can be quoted, delete the content and copy the new quote into the green box
Kudos to you for giving up your hobby because of this. Not everyone would have done what you did. But I can understand you if you don't want to get your girlfriend into trouble because she might be worried about the prosecution/bank.
Exactly, and that's how the majority of players would decide. There is simply no attractive offer and this whole problem would disappear into thin air.
Ultimately, it's about the German state taking action here and giving neutral platforms like GJ a choice. Today it is the No Deposit FS, tomorrow something else could be affected. Little by little, a real censorship is taking place. I am aware that GJ has already commented on this and written that the forum would never be affected by this and that they had discussed this with the lawyers beforehand, but are we sure that GJ is on the safe side here?
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Yes, hobby is also somehow an inappropriate word that I chose😄Vice is probably a better word. I haven't really given it up either, the emphasis has shifted more towards sports betting and I also spend a few tens a week on slots... 😄
I've always wanted to reduce my slot gambling... If you're completely honest, you'll get ripped off either way, a bit quicker in the German booths, but the loss is also inevitable in the international ones and the whole thing is somehow a pretty stupid activity 😂
Thanks for the quote tip😄
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I think it's more because there's nothing today again
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well at least the energy 10 FS permanent classic could still be slammed in before the handcuffs click
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why?nobody here is doing anything illegal..I don't think anyone from Germany is in the forum so don't panic @ all..you'll all go to jail for other offenses
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Yes exactly...we all talk in English and indicate in the settings that we come from the Netherlands or similar...to disguise our citizenship from the authorities 😃
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I would therefore like to explain the reason for the change in a little more detail.
GGL saw the bonus offers that you publish on the no-deposit page as "advertising for unauthorized gambling".
Whether it was really "advertising for illegal gambling", even though we as GambleJoe had no influence on the bonus offers and did not actively promote unlicensed providers, is debatable.
As is well known, we even had information boxes stating that playing with unlicensed providers can lead to legal problems or that payouts are not secure. Whether this can be described as "sales-promoting advertising" is debatable.
Unfortunately, I can say from my own experience that being right and being proven right in court do not always correlate.
We made the change that only German, licensed providers can be seen from Germany because we know that legal disputes in court could drag on for years. We have never made any money with the no-deposit site and arguing in court only generates costs, stress and at the same time robs us of time, which is then lost elsewhere. That's why we came to an internal agreement and decided with a heavy heart to restrict this area for users from Germany without acknowledging any legal obligation.
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