He must be given the opportunity to express himself. That must be included. Otherwise, of course, it would be better if you had published it yesterday. Then you would probably have better leverage if there are still coins on his account.
Some people here even sell their granny for 7.50 euros ...
Andre wrote on 01.04.2024 at 22:20: Ah okay, I see what you mean. I would still give the benefit of the doubt to the defendant and at least give him a chance to speak.
Then I'll discuss it with the others in the team and then we'll find a proportionate solution.
@andre of course i agree with you, i would appreciate it if you would write to him directly from GJ. then he would normally have to take a stand. i don't think he will ignore your messages either. it's really bad when you have to cheat someone for €7.50.
Langhans wrote on 01.04.2024 at 22:18: It's better not to do business with someone who asks for an Interwetten student code 83 times out of 89 posts like a robot in copy&paste mode. Especially not with people who stand out as notorious beggars even in the Interwetten betting forum. Least of all with people who even in a begging forum still stand out as a notorious begging robot and don't even thank you after a multiple win in the monthly raffle
@langhans,you're right of course,but i didn't do much research into how many posts he already has,and which ones they were exactly. i just saw that he's been active here for 1.5 years,and just thought that would be fine. i would have been suspicious of a completely new user,of course,and wouldn't have done that.
Ultimately, it depends on his reaction. If he talks his way out of it, then you can think about making the punishment severe.
If he pays the money back immediately, you could possibly reduce the fine and let him off with a warning.
Even if I think to myself "once a scammer - always a scammer" - there have been users who have changed and everyone should get a second chance.
I don't think garfield needs to tell us any fairy tales here. He can certainly prove everything.
But it's up to you to decide how this is handled.
Perhaps you could add a note to the profile that alerts users to scammers/cheaters. Something like "This user has scammed other users in the past". Of course, only after everything has been proven. Then you could warn other members about it and the scammers would not have to be punished with a ban or similar.
@langhans,you are of course right,but i didn't do much research on how many posts he already has,and which ones exactly. i only saw that he has been active here for 1.5 years,and just thought that would be clear without any problems. with a completely new user i would of course have been suspicious,and would not have done that.
that wasn't really an accusation against you - even if you could have understood it that way, as it has just dawned on me Rather, you did everything right and obviously never followed the Interwetten thread , otherwise you would probably have noticed him - even if not necessarily as a fraudster in spe (it hasn't been proven yet...so much fairness must be) - . I hope everything gets sorted out and then nothing stands in the way of Luke Littler action in your hobby cellar.
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@langhans,you are of course right,but i didn't do much research on how many posts he already has,and which ones exactly. i only saw that he has been active here for 1.5 years,and just thought that would be clear without any problems. with a completely new user i would of course have been suspicious,and would not have done that.
In the end, the research doesn't help much. I and a lot of others were recently "caught".
In the end, the research doesn't help much either. I and a lot of others got "caught" recently.
i know, i think you mean the action of "refucs" or whatever the name was. i thought it was just as bad, he had also asked me for a 10 psc, and i would even have lent it to him, but i didn't have anything there at the time (i think it was saturday or sunday evening). in retrospect i'm glad about it.
that was in fact not a reproach to you at all - even if it could have been understood that way, as it just dawned on me Rather, you did everything right and obviously never followed the Interwetten thread , otherwise you would probably have noticed him - even if not necessarily as a cheater in spe (it hasn't been proven yet...so much fairness must be) - . I hope everything gets sorted out and then nothing stands in the way of Luke Littler action in your hobby cellar.
i don't really read the interwetten thread very actively, as I'm blocked for bonus codes at interwetten (for whatever reason), so this thread isn't really important to me.
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@andre of course i agree with you, i would appreciate it if you would write to him directly from GJ. then he would normally have to take a stand. i don't think he will ignore your messages either. it's really bad when you have to cheat someone for €7.50.
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@langhans,you're right of course,but i didn't do much research into how many posts he already has,and which ones they were exactly. i just saw that he's been active here for 1.5 years,and just thought that would be fine. i would have been suspicious of a completely new user,of course,and wouldn't have done that.
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If he pays the money back immediately, you could possibly reduce the fine and let him off with a warning.
Even if I think to myself "once a scammer - always a scammer" - there have been users who have changed and everyone should get a second chance.
I don't think garfield needs to tell us any fairy tales here. He can certainly prove everything.
But it's up to you to decide how this is handled.
Perhaps you could add a note to the profile that alerts users to scammers/cheaters. Something like "This user has scammed other users in the past". Of course, only after everything has been proven. Then you could warn other members about it and the scammers would not have to be punished with a ban or similar.
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that wasn't really an accusation against you - even if you could have understood it that way, as it has just dawned on me Rather, you did everything right and obviously never followed the Interwetten thread , otherwise you would probably have noticed him - even if not necessarily as a fraudster in spe (it hasn't been proven yet...so much fairness must be) - . I hope everything gets sorted out and then nothing stands in the way of Luke Littler action in your hobby cellar.
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In the end, the research doesn't help much. I and a lot of others were recently "caught".
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i know, i think you mean the action of "refucs" or whatever the name was. i thought it was just as bad, he had also asked me for a 10 psc, and i would even have lent it to him, but i didn't have anything there at the time (i think it was saturday or sunday evening). in retrospect i'm glad about it.
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i don't really read the interwetten thread very actively, as I'm blocked for bonus codes at interwetten (for whatever reason), so this thread isn't really important to me.
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I don't anymore either. I gave up a few weeks ago...my nerves just weren't strong enough for that
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