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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 1086)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1086 of 1347 | Answers: 13,461 | Views: 1,751,458
Langhans_innen
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Julian wrote on 04.03.2024 at 17:53:


I wouldn't call it crazy stuff.
The situation that a newcomer is put off by the behavior of individual members has unfortunately happened more often.

But I think it's happened far more often that newcomers (sounds somehow more endearing) have put off the majority of members because they've behaved like an axe in the forest God knows I'm not talking about Thea89 - it was all harmless. And because there's a persistent opinion here that it's difficult as a "newcomer" and that you might be treated too harshly: at least I haven't yet seen anyone being underbutted because they only have two posts. However, looking around a bit, remaining objective/friendly, checking out the situation in a new environment and behaving in accordance with the prevailing customs has certainly never done anyone any harm. The right tone can certainly always be adjusted for everyone, and you never stop learning as soon as you join a forum community. But the whole thing yesterday could certainly have been solved more elegantly: In my opinion, the trigger was not the newcomer status, but the divided opinions about the behavior.

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B****3
Julian wrote on 04.03.2024 at 18:10:

Well, what was that situation we had just last night?

What kind of situation was it?


Someone was told to adjust something to ensure a better flow in the forum!

In addition, the person had been registered for a long time and also had a partner as a longer member!
Therefore, the customs were certainly known!

And if someone freaks out because of a hint, deletes himself or even becomes malicious, it is certainly not to be attributed to the regular user!

I find it astonishing that after such an evening, I or possibly frapi are accused of being to blame for what happened!

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Andre
Expert

Blubbo33 wrote on 04.03.2024 at 18:50:
What kind of situation should it have been ?


Someone has pointed out something to ensure a better flow in the forum!

In addition, the person had been registered for a long time and also had a partner as a longer member!
Therefore, the customs were certainly known!

And if someone freaks out because of a hint, deletes himself or even becomes malicious, it is certainly not to be attributed to the regular user!

I find it astonishing that after an evening like this, I or possibly frapi are accused of being to blame for what happened!


It's about the way it was communicated. It could certainly have been written in a "friendlier" way. New users in particular may not be able to pick up on this properly and then tend to distance themselves from the forum.


Of course, this doesn't justify the malice and insults that occurred, but we would still like to see more tact. Apart from that, the timing was simply unfortunate, as we would have said something the next morning anyway.

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MisterL
Expert
he must have destroyed his entire balance in his rage and the blessing of the house is hanging askew vacation canceled divorce caravan

homelessness

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Dr-Strange
Top Member

MisterL wrote on 04.03.2024 at 20:03: surely he has also killed his whole balance in anger and the house blessing hangs crooked vacation canceled divorce caravan

homelessness

So without wanting to offend you, don't be angry with me, your contributions always read as if you were permanently current 😅 sometimes even Latin would be easier to read 😁

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MisterL
Expert
reminds me of "bones" nothing has been written here for a long time

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frapi07
Elite

Lionking wrote on 04.03.2024 at 14:22: What is noticeable is that a certain user is always involved when there is stress.
Some users have already taken over the platform here to such an extent that they think they have to play the chief overseer.
Everyone here, whether newcomer or elite, legend or whatever, has the right to be here and to write posts, even if they don't have the desired added value for one or the other.
That's why we have the GJ admins here, who can intervene if necessary if rules are broken.
There is of course nothing wrong with objective criticism and H.L.'s reaction was of course indisputably not ok.
Maybe everyone should be a bit more relaxed, I personally wasn't bothered by the posting between the couple and as gamble already wrote, you could have waited a bit to see if things would settle down.
It can't be that newcomers are often attacked here because something goes against the grain of an old hand.
Many newcomers don't have the competence to stand up to the regular users and prefer to leave quickly.
That can't be in the interests of GJ.

For my part, I have made an objective criticism. Neither I, nor Blubbo, are playing the chief supervisor. But I can understand Blubbo when he comes on and then finds what he found yesterday. That's how I felt too. It's just no fun following threads when a good half of the posts contain something pointless like emojis or 1-2 words. Yes, you could have put it more nicely, but as long as you don't offend, I don't find anything objectionable about it.

And on the subject of newcomers: Thora89 was "new", but Mr. Lauer was not. He also took part and it was really annoying. He could have owned up to his mistakes. Instead, he lashed out like a fury at anyone who dared to criticize his behavior and the behavior of his wife. Nobody wanted them to delete themselves. How do they react when mistakes are pointed out to them at work? Do they then resign directly, or what? Blubbo has already posted that things escalated unnecessarily on Mr. Lauer's part. He could have simply said "mea culpa" and apologized. If I ever make a mistake here, I apologize and don't repeat it. But Mr. Lauer's ego was probably too offended to react in exactly the same way.

Julian wrote on 04.03.2024 at 17:53:


I wouldn't call it confused stuff.
The situation that a newcomer is put off by the behavior of individual members has unfortunately happened more often.

But it wasn't just one newcomer. Mr. Lauer did the same thing and he was here for 2 years. I would also be very grateful if you would reply to my post. I have invested time and commented on the incident.

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gamble1
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Langhans wrote on 04.03.2024 at 18:28:
The fact that newcomers (sounds somehow more endearing) have deterred a large part of the members by their behavior because they behaved like an axe in the forest, but I think there were far more often God knows I don't mean Thea89 - that was all harmless. And because there's a persistent opinion here that it's difficult as a "newcomer" and that you might be treated too harshly: at least I haven't yet seen anyone being underbutted because they only have two posts. However, looking around a bit, remaining objective/friendly, checking out the situation in a new environment and behaving in accordance with the prevailing customs has certainly never done anyone any harm. The right tone can certainly always be adjusted for everyone, and you never stop learning as soon as you join a forum community. But the whole thing yesterday could certainly have been solved more elegantly: In my opinion, the trigger was not the newcomer status, but the divided opinions about the behavior.

Well, the one who brought us the nice word "regular game addict" was unfortunately also a new one If I'm not mistaken, there was only the problem with "he wasn't parroted" or am I wrong?


But very nicely written we should all really improve a bit here and there

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Saphira
Expert
The forum also thrives on its different characters. One is diplomatic, the other direct, there are some who stay out of everything per se and some who like to discuss things objectively. In between, there's the occasional joker or provocateur. In the meantime, I think it's a pretty good mix that usually regulates itself. This mixture keeps the forum lively. In the past, there was hardly any tact here, the tone was rough and insults, which today are reason enough to leave a forum, were often not even perceived as such. Only when things got really nasty after pages of bickering did a moderator perhaps intervene. But actually it was left to run its course. It wasn't for the faint-hearted. Andre wasn't here yet, who would have liked more tact, and neither were many other long-time users. Today it's very peaceful compared to back then. So much so that I actually have to laugh when I see how sensitively people react here over nothing.

Blubbo started his post pointing out the chat-like conversation in other threads with "Old Falter". Then he said, among other things, that it sucked for him to see these chats everywhere and that it was like kindergarten. He then asked the Lauer family to deal with it privately. I've already picked out the "worst" comments. Old butterfly, kindergarten, sucks. 😂

Thora89 then asked Blubbo to find another hobby, basically to leave the forum if he didn't like what she wrote. I thought that was brash for a newcomer. Even more brash was the private message to Blubbo, in which Mr. Lauer advised him not to hunt anything that can't be killed. Hunt, kill, leave the forum (find another hobby) 🤔 Crowning glory: You Hur@@sons! 🤔 Further effects: Lousy and unfair judgment on TP against the entire forum and team.

Who has problems with tact here now? When new users appear, a "welcome" is given reflexively and completely normally. Unless the new user behaves strangely, abusively or otherwise impertinently. It's all been done before. Those who behave normally are treated normally. Anyone who euphorically celebrates the "hurray-we're-both-together-now-on-Gj" with x more or less meaningless comments or even just smilies and thus engages in constant bombardment has to expect that it will annoy someone. If Blubbo hadn't beaten me to it, I would certainly have mentioned it sarcastically somewhere. And then the same thing would probably have happened. So it's nonsense to look for someone to blame for the departure of the Lauer family.

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frapi07
Elite

Langhans wrote on 04.03.2024 at 18:28:
The fact that newcomers (sounds somehow more endearing) have deterred a large part of the members by their behavior because they behaved like an axe in the forest, but I think there were far more often God knows I don't mean Thea89 - that was all harmless. And because there's a persistent opinion here that it's difficult as a "newcomer" and that you might be treated too harshly: at least I haven't noticed that anyone is being buttered up because they only have two posts. However, looking around a bit first, remaining objective/friendly, checking out the situation in a new environment and behaving in accordance with the prevailing customs has certainly never done anyone any harm. The right tone can certainly always be adjusted for everyone and you never stop learning as soon as you join a forum community. But the whole thing yesterday could certainly have been solved more elegantly: In my opinion, the trigger was not the newcomer status, but the divided opinions about the behavior.

gamble1 wrote on 04.03.2024 at 20:53:

Well the one where we got the nice word "regular game addict" was unfortunately also a new one There was only the problem with "He wasn't parroted" if I'm not mistaken or am I wrong ?


But very nicely written we should all really improve one or the other time

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A new user has registered here and almost everyone has shown empathy and tried to encourage the user as much as possible. I was one of those who reacted in this way. But the fact that the exact opposite is now being claimed - namely that we "old regular users" are scaring newcomers away - is not correct. I can understand if a Mr. Lauer claims it out of anger/frustration, but the admins? Besides, for me personally it's about the quality of the posts and I'm honest, I'd rather have users like "Randomcapyu" instead of "Thora89" and "HerrLauer" who post one pointless post after the other.

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