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Off topic & small talk: Begging threads and money requests (Page 7)

Topic created on 07th Aug. 2018 | Page: 7 of 9 | Answers: 84 | Views: 14,715
Anonym

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8th Aug. 2018, at 10:00 am CEST#61
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upola wrote on 08/08/2018 at 09:53
What will happen to the professions that are already hard to fill?
Hairdressers.butchers;bakers;retail in general.
If everyone only does what he enjoys or what he is particularly good at, the professions should then die out.


One goes primarily to work to earn money.Earlier also no one was asked what he would like to do.
In Germany, we still do well, better than in many other countries.

I can confirm this from my own experience.
We are just fine here.
Running water, electricity, sewage system. Shopping markets, boutiques, etc. Hospitals, pharmacies and doctors on (almost) every corner.
Moreover, we live in peace!

Nevertheless, many professions are not sufficiently remunerated!

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8th Aug. 2018, at 10:09 am CEST#62
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Professions like hairdresser, butcher and baker will definitely not die out.
These are all professions for which some people will always feel some passion.

I myself knew someone whose passion was to bake his own donuts and today he works at the bakery and is happy.
The only jobs that could die out are probably all the low-paid jobs or temporary employment agencies in general.
I also doubt very much that the majority would lie lazily on the skin, I think rather that it will come to that simply some people will change their job.
The humanity I trust in such a scenario even so much that I claim that there will be much more people who will do volunteer work or generally more social.

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8th Aug. 2018, at 10:35 am CEST#63
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upola wrote on 08/08/2018 at 09:53
What will happen to the professions that are already hard to fill?
Hairdressers.butchers;bakers;retail in general.
If everyone only does what he enjoys or what he is particularly good at, the professions should then die out.


One goes primarily to work to earn money.Earlier also no one was asked what he would like to do.
In Germany, we still do well, better than in many other countries.

Hey,

so I must clearly contradict you there are enough hairdressers who earn more money than some low-wage workers..In the district in Berlin where I live, for example, there are only haircuts for around 20 euros for men..There is then enough hanging for the hairdresser..If you are of course such an inhuman and want to pay the hairdresser only 10 euros. Need you also do not complain that this earns nothing ... but unfortunately in most cases so ... first complain that get much too little salary but when it comes to the payment ... yes I have no more blah blah blah...

Butcher or specialist salesman for meat / sausage ... is a very well paid job if you go for example at Rewe / Kaufland etc behind the counter ... there are the starting salaries without apprenticeship at 12 euros and with apprenticeship at 14 or 15 euros ... "low wages" is for me something else.For a baker it has always been so that he could only live well if he had his own business.which is still the case today... if you deliver good quality and not in the last corner of your store have you can also live well.Of course, this also has something to do with marketing and economic thinking...Retail ansich is also very broad in terms of the wage structure...if you work in the "food" retail (with tariff binding) you will never earn less than 11-12Euro where you are with apprenticeship also at 13-14 Euro...If you start of course at a small private...or work at Kik/Tedi you need not think that you will earn much...

the only drawback what there is at the moment still in East Germany are the hourly contracts mostly is hired in the trade for 100h..in West Germany you are there already further because you can not find people for 100h is hired there almost only for 120-170H.I think the hourly wages plus the respective supplements night / afternoon / cashier surcharge etc. is not so bad...


I think it's a pity that it has become normal in Germany ALWAYS TO BLEAT but not to do something against his oh so "bad situation" ..No complaining is also much easier..at the moment it's just so that everyone who has learned something and works in this profession for little money ... in 90% of cases is his own fault ... because he does not dare to apply to a big company because he has probationary period etc..Sure you have probationary period or maybe a temporary employment relationship ... but that is ALWAYS the case ... and every new start is associated with a bit of Risk ... But who can work that is also not dismissed ... is in today's time staff simply not in it ... On the contrary, it is held far more people who would have been dismissed earlier ... because you simply have no substitute for such people ...




Still what to complain... who only Meckert and nothing changes the gehst also not bad

MfG

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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:11 am CEST#64
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Without having read everything now...the retail trade is well paid?
What are you dreaming of anyway? I and my wife come from the retail.erzähle so not the retail is well paid.Look at the working hours, overtime without end because staff is missing.

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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:33 am CEST#65
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Butcher or specialist salesman for meat / sausage... is a very well paid job if you go for example at Rewe / Kaufland etc behind the counter... there are the starting salaries without apprenticeship at 12 Euro

Would now also times claim that you get without apprenticeship the minimum wage or something more, but not 12 €.
At least not at the beginning!

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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:42 am CEST#66
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stkrie wrote on 08/08/2018 at 11:33: Butcher or specialist salesman for meat/sausage... is a very well paid job if you go behind the counter e.g. at Rewe/Kaufland etc... there the starting salaries without apprenticeship are at 12 Euro

Would now also times claim that you get without apprenticeship the minimum wage or something more, but not 12 €.
At least not at the beginning!

This is again so typical no idea but first tell... the minimum wage in the trade is 10.30.Now comes but to that behind a meat counter is never someone without work experience..NEVER..because most eh the sausage can not distinguish and what has to do with hygiene standards and production.so now comes in addition...that there are fewer applicants than jobs...so you give people more money..so they apply to you..but I realize...I'm probably talking to someone again who thinks he knew something but has 0% background knowledge ...




Supply and demand... you don't have to sell yourself short...

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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:46 am CEST#67
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According to Kununu, salaries are linked to the minimum wage, overtime is not paid in some cases, etc
paid, etc. If I subtract the frustration ratings, I am still left with a lot of
Ratings that basically all say the same thing.

Don't worry, I inform myself a bit when I write something.

Butcher or specialist salesman for meat / sausage... is a very well paid job if you go for example at Rewe / Kaufland etc behind the counter... there are the starting salaries without apprenticeship at 12 euros

then you write

Now, however, comes to the behind a meat counter is never someone without professional experience..NEVER..because most can not distinguish the sausage anyway and that also has something to do with hygiene standards and production


Then you would have to decide what goes at REWE now!

I think rather you have no idea, you contradict yourself even.
Not everyone can do that!

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upola
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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:49 am CEST#68
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@locke2kk
You are a talker and have no idea.
How do you think that only people with professional experience stand behind the counters.
Make yourself first once smartly before you give your wisdom from you.
others Unterstellen the have no idea...unbelievable.

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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:52 am CEST#69
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The funny thing is, may I ask in what position you work? I mean can tell you exactly how it looks in the stationary retail because I have a leading position there... and you want to tell me now I'm lying when I say you start behind the sausage counter for 11-12 euros? You said butchers hairdressers and bakers earn nothing, funny way you have of course said nothing to my 10 euro hairdresser? because you are probably there regular customers ... and him always nice 1 euro Tip and then still a friendly "thank you" expect ... but well as I said there are unfortunately in today's time so many people like you. that does not drive Germany forward.... we have in our companies newly hired Syrians who want to work ... From the work ethic people like you can cut a slice ... but well. That will probably be nothing

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8th Aug. 2018, at 11:54 am CEST#70
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upola wrote on 08/08/2018 at 11:49: @locke2kk
You are a talker and have no idea.
What makes you think that behind the counters there are only people with professional experience.
Make yourself first once smartly before you give your wisdom from you.
others Unterstellen the have no idea...unbelievable.


Show me a tariff-bound company the specialist salesman for meat and sausages with 0 years of work experience hires ... and now do not come to me with your private butcher ...
or any sausage chain (haase Private Edeka etc..) the anyway not pay according to tariff ...

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