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Other topics related to... : Player Locking System OASIS Thread (Page 226)

Topic created on 10th Feb. 2022 | Page: 226 of 285 | Answers: 2,849 | Views: 630,185
Yarak
Rookie
If the player violates the self-exclusion, the casino is therefore not liable for damages. This result seems completely unfair, as it means that the player always loses: If he wins, he is not entitled to a payout .

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frapi07
Elite

Yarak wrote on 19.06.2024 at 15:37:


Then you never won big

From a certain amount, personal data is always asked for The fact is that the operator is not obliged to make a payout in the event of a player ban


I am aware of that and that is correct, but Lotto is not connected to OASIS. Every office that is connected to OASIS also checks you beforehand! If you visit a casino, you will be checked before you play. The same applies to online providers. If you block yourself at the OASIS, you cannot log in to Tipico. You cannot place a bet.




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Rizkk
Rookie
Moin

You can block yourself for a year (indefinitely) and also determine a specific time yourself.

If the time frame is very long, e.g. 200 years (this number is a stretch of the imagination), can you unblock before this period expires? Or is there then no chance of life-long access?

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Anonym

Rizkk wrote on 19.06.2024 at 18:21: Moin

You can block yourself for a year (indefinitely) and also determine a certain time yourself.

In the case of a very long time frame such as 200 years (imaginatively this number), can you unlock before this period expires? Or is there then no chance of life-long unlocking?

Someone recently reported here that he had himself blocked until 2080 out of anger and he got an answer from them that he had to wait until 2080

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Yarak
Rookie

frapi07 wrote on 19.06.2024 at 16:16:

I am aware of that and that is true, however Lotto is not connected to the OASIS. Every place that is connected to the OASIS will also check you beforehand! If you visit a casino, you will be checked before you play. The same applies to online providers. If you block yourself at the OASIS, you cannot log in to Tipico. You cannot place a bet.





At the latest with high wins, every online service will have it checked regardless of whether it is tied or not

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danymiller
Regarding the lottery... it is regulated by law and has already been written here.
6 out of 49 and Eurojackpot are NOT affected by OASIS. Of course, Lotto is linked to the blocking system. You are not allowed to buy Scratch cards, for example, as they are blocked online. I have tested it several times.
@alle Klugschei...er: Yes, you can buy and sell them in the store. But it's not officially legal.

I even called Lotto at the time and was assured by 2 employees that the ban has no influence on the two lotteries mentioned above. No matter how much you have won.

Anyone who said otherwise? That's right! No plan

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frapi07
Elite
Yarak wrote on 19.06.2024 at 19:10:

At the latest with high wins every online service will have it checked no matter if tied or not

Then explain to me why the query takes place beforehand for the other services (gaming library/gambling bank/online gaming library/online betting provider) and not for lotto.

If a banned player still plays with a licensed Provider, the provider must refund the player's bets. I can even prove this to you by means of a judgment, because there is a judgment of the AG Ludwigslust Az. 41 C 87/21.

To summarize: The person had himself banned and played online during the ban. The provider has a license and did not carry out any checks. The player then sued the provider for reimbursement of the stakes and won.

You can also find the following in the State Treaty on Gambling:

"- Section 21 (5) GlüStV (2012/2020) stipulates that banned players may not participate in betting."

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Yarak
Rookie

frapi07 wrote on 19.06.2024 at 22:24:
Then explain to me why the query takes place beforehand for the other services (gaming library/gambling bank/online gaming library/online betting provider) and not for lotto.

If a banned player still plays with a licensed Provider, the provider must refund the player's bets. I can even prove this to you by means of a judgment, because there is a judgment of the AG Ludwigslust Az. 41 C 87/21.

To summarize: The person had himself banned and played online during the ban. The provider has a license and did not carry out any checks. The player then sued the provider for reimbursement of the stakes and won.

You can also find the following in the State Treaty on Gambling:

"- Section 21 (5) GlüStV (2012/2020) stipulates that banned players may not participate in betting."

Yes, I know and I've read that too, but it's not about the fact that the person has won a large sum of money, of course he can demand his bets back since registering, but he won't get a win if they check it 🤷‍♂️ It says on every lottery ticket that gambling can be addictive and it is a game of chance and the ban is based on the fact that you are excluded from gambling of any kind


Of course, maybe he'll get it 🙂


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Fcnmichi
Hello,
Where do we currently stand?
I submitted my application on 01.03 and have not yet been released. It shouldn't be long now

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frapi07
Elite

Yarak wrote on 20.06.2024 at 01:17:

Yes I know and I also read that once but that's not about that but that the person has won a large sum of money of course he can demand his bets back since registration but he won't get a win if they check it 🤷‍♂️ it says on every lottery ticket that gambling can be addictive and it is a game of chance and the ban is based on the fact that you are excluded from gambling of any kind


Of course, maybe he'll get it 🙂



Yes, it's on there, but the OASIS block doesn't block you from everything. You can still buy lottery tickets... It's also gambling, isn't it?
Maria_Sonntag also wrote here that the lottery must take place more than twice a week.

The providers that are linked to OASIS are not allowed to let banned players play. If they do, then they are in breach of contract and always have to pay out: if the player loses, they can sue the Provider for a refund and if they win, then the provider must also pay out the win.

This is a fact and has been proven to you several times by judgments/paragraphs in the contract. I don't understand how you can still insist on the opposite.

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