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Conspiracy theories: With Bonus Big Wins - Without Dead Pants

Topic created on 17th Sep. 2018 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 3,905
Theone87
Experienced
Hello must throw up a bit,
have the last few weeks / months again played a lot and I more or less always happened the same.

I sign up somewhere, take the 100-200% bonus with 50€ own contribution and wins first really nice so I come up to 300€-700€. always play between 0.60 - 2.00€ get heaps of freespins or other stuff but the closer I come to fulfilling the turnover requirements the rarer the wins are...

it is so awesome that I sometimes lose 300€ on 1€ bet in less than 15min even if I test 5 different slots. It is as if a switch is flipped...

If I then Deposit without bonus comes first nothing at all... never, not even with new registrations in other casinos, only with bonus come wins.


Who is the same? Have a huge cross-section at about 25 OC and it has almost always been the same. The same when you cancel ne payout, the money is gone, every time.

I am really annoyed by the sums I have gambled away lately

What also amazes me every time the winning pictures here always have such high multipliers but then are only on 0.20 cents, my best wins are worth less on 2€ than most here on 0.20€?

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Anonym
This can go either way. I had often managed to clear the bonus and then pay out a nice win, but it has also happened that it first went up and then everything was gone, only happened today with GUTS...
The winning pictures with high multipliers are lucky, had last week with BoD a 1000x and then a 2000x (At all the first time such a high Multiplier had in an OC), both with 0.20 €, so 200 and 400 win, then with Danger HV a 980x, this happens to me but also not constantly and often goes nothing and 100-200 are gone like nothing...on 0.20-0.40 €. In the long run you can not win anyway and these big hits are the exception. Of course, this is always to be seen in relation, one who wins with 5 € 10,000 has also a 2000x but sure before even thousands put in and most are in the red, here too, the exceptions confirm the rule, but these are as rare as BigWins.

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K****t
I could sing arias about it, write encyclopedias about it, stage dramas about it... what am I saying? Spielberg could make a blockbuster out of it.
Yes, that's exactly how it is. We've already had the topic here in various threads, you only win with bonus in many casinos, never or almost never with real money. After a payout that's it, nothing more comes for years.

Personally, it does not interest me the bean, if again someone writes that everything is just coincidence and no one could or would manipulate.

Just today I had interesting chats. First at Fairplay, where I complained about the constant losing after only a few minutes as well as the few cents at free spins, which one always only "wins".
The agent replied the usual that it was all random and that you were regulated by the MGA. I mentioned that the MGA was supposedly corrupt. There was no contradiction.
Several times he timidly wrote that it was out of his hands. Even when I suggested that the wins for free spins were predetermined and the RTP/AQ was absolutely lousy.
No contradiction, just again that he personally could not do anything about it.
At Vera&John I was told that they would not manipulate the slots.
Otherwise it is said everywhere that they cannot be manipulated at all. Here now, that they would not manipulate them, because they would not have it probably necessary.
There was no answer to the fact that slots only report "errors" and crash when things are going well. Instead, that I can also close my account if I would not have fun with it.

It's fascinating. The day comes when one is told that one has to live with the fact that Manipulation is going on. Wait and see, at some point this will be brazenly admitted.

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Anonym
Kaffeelicht wrote on 17.09.2018 at 23:18: I can sing arias about it, write encyclopedias about it, direct theater dramas... what am I saying? Spielberg could make a blockbuster out of it.
Yes, that's exactly how it is. We've already had the topic here in various threads, you only win with bonus in many casinos, never or almost never with real money. After a payout that's it, nothing more comes for years.

Personally, it does not interest me the bean, if again someone writes that everything is just coincidence and no one could or would manipulate.

Just today I had interesting chats. First at Fairplay, where I complained about the constant losing after only a few minutes as well as the few cents at free spins, which one always only "wins".
The agent replied the usual that it was all random and that you were regulated by the MGA. I mentioned that the MGA was supposedly corrupt. There was no contradiction.
Several times he timidly wrote that it was out of his hands. Even when I suggested that the wins for free spins were predetermined and the RTP/AQ was absolutely lousy.
No contradiction, just again that he personally could not do anything about it.
At Vera&John I was told that they would not manipulate the slots.
Otherwise it is said everywhere that they cannot be manipulated at all. Here now, that they would not manipulate them, because they would not have it probably necessary.
There was no answer to the fact that slots only report "errors" and crash when things are going well. Instead, that I can also close my account if I would not have fun with it.

It's fascinating. The day comes when one is told that one has to live with the fact that Manipulation is going on. Wait and see, at some point this will be brazenly admitted.

Well, that wanted to understand however in such a way.
Not that you could not be right, but in the answers of the support I read there now no confirmation or a confession out.


And guys, what you really need to understand once and for all. The system is already almost perfect. You lose on every spin. The math beats you in the long run. And the psychology of a player is anyway designed to keep playing or coming back even if you win.

Even if the casino pays you out, in the end it's just borrowed money, the money stays somewhere else until it comes back, so to speak, it's just more gambling capital for a player.

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Anonym
Random wrote on 09/18/2018 02:09 PM
Well, that's what you wanted to understand.
Not that you could not be right with it, but from the answers of the support I read out there now no confirmation or confession.


And guys, what you really need to understand once and for all. The system is already almost perfect. You lose on every spin. The math beats you in the long run. And the psychology of a player is anyway designed to keep playing or coming back even if you win.

Even if the casino pays you out, in the end it's just borrowed money, the money stays somewhere else until it comes back, so to speak, it's just more gambling capital for a player.


Hit the nail on the head. I don't want to say like yesterday in the other thread that chance isn't helped a bit but the bottom line is the money is already in the books anyway. But I would also like to know exactly what is really true

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Theone87
Experienced
Unbeliver wrote on 09/17/2018 at 23:15
The winning pictures with high multipliers are lucky, had last week with BoD a 1000x and then a 2000x (Over all the first time such a high Multiplier had in an OC), both with 0.20 €, so 200 and 400 win

With me the exact opposite with BoD. Had a little over 100€ on the speedometer and have run the game autostart, have turned to 0.50€ there were once Freegames (20) with head not even a 2s given, later again with A (10) 2x 3s ... Basegame also Max 4s cheap symbol.

From frustration again 50€ deposited the ran through without Freegames and Max win was a x10 and the rest nothing and Par times stake back. My absolute death game again and again.

Later played RED Tiger Slots, Laser Fruit on 0,80€ Freegames... 50! Highest number thought ok that's it now... had over 2,500,000 paylines and there was 170€ at the end... given once Big Win with about 40-50€ and that's it.



On the subject of crashes I can also say that I there as soon as 2 Scatters were there and the 3rd would have run in it crashes and you have to go back into the game and the spin is repeated and lo and behold without 3rd scatter. This has happened to me at a slot umpteen times, but no longer knows which, that was last week.

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Begbie
Elite
Random wrote on 09/18/2018 02:09 PM


Even if the casino pays you out, in the end it's just borrowed money, the money stays somewhere else until it comes back, so to speak, it's just more gambling capital for a player.


very good

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s****e

Random wrote on 09/18/2018 02:09 PM
Well, that's what you wanted to understand.
Not that you could not be right with it, but from the answers of the support I read out there now no confirmation or confession.


And guys, what you really need to understand once and for all. The system is already almost perfect. You lose on every spin. The math beats you in the long run. And the psychology of a player is anyway designed to keep playing or coming back even if you win.

Even if the casino pays you out, in the end it's just borrowed money, the money stays somewhere else until it comes back, so to speak, it's just more gambling capital for a player.


If it were only the mathematics, then everything would be only half so wild!

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Anonym
I wouldn't believe the user Unbeliver here at all. Someone who does not even know
what Playtech slots are and then claims he has great gaming experience. That stinks big time. It is
not uncommon for casinos to play a decoy to fool others. Happens very often
in the English Casinomeister forum

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upola
Legend

Kaffeelicht wrote on 17.09.2018 at 23:18: I can sing arias about this, write encyclopedias about it, direct theater dramas... what am I saying? Spielberg could make a blockbuster out of it.
Yes, that's exactly how it is. We've already had the topic here in various threads, you only win with bonus in many casinos, never or almost never with real money. After a payout that's it, nothing more comes for years.

Personally, it does not interest me the bean, if again someone writes that everything is just coincidence and no one could or would manipulate.

Just today I had interesting chats. First at Fairplay, where I complained about the constant losing after only a few minutes as well as the few cents at free spins, which one always only "wins".
The agent replied the usual that it was all random and that you were regulated by the MGA. I mentioned that the MGA was supposedly corrupt. There was no contradiction.
Several times he timidly wrote that it was out of his hands. Even when I suggested that the wins for free spins were predetermined and the RTP/AQ was absolutely lousy.
No contradiction, just again that he personally could not do anything about it.
At Vera&John I was told that they would not manipulate the slots.
Otherwise it is said everywhere that they cannot be manipulated at all. Here now, that they would not manipulate them, because they would not have it probably necessary.
There was no answer to the fact that slots only report "errors" and crash when things are going well. Instead, that I can also close my account if I would not have fun with it.

It's fascinating. The day comes when one is told that one has to live with the fact that Manipulation is going on. Wait and see, at some point this will be brazenly admitted.

What do you expect? Do you think the employee admits that the slots are manipulated (if it is really like that)?

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