Maybe it helps a little to share the frustration with other people.
I have been playing in Online Casinos for several years. I have also often been lucky and had some payouts of several thousand euros.
Of course, I was always in the red. But the whole thing was still humane and it was fun to play.
That you lose in the end you know. If one plays already longer, then with the consciousness that one does not win at the end anyway. Still, I think it should be a little balanced and at least fun.
My last payout of just 1000 euros was over half a year ago. And before that there was a lull of several months.
Yes, it sounds strange in connection with the word "just once".
But if you invest more than 1000 to 2000 euros in
month, it is already not nice. In the whole time where more than 20,000 euros went on it, I had 2-3 times luck and came up from 100 euros to 400-500 euros. (My stake is usually 1-2 euros per spin)
The whole thing is really very depressing. Especially if you are already in the situation where you can't get out of the whole vicious circle.
Again and again I watch life streams on twitch or YouTube. And every time the big win is not long in coming.
I have the feeling that the casinos flip the switch on the life streamers to lure the ignorant people and make even more money.
How do you see the whole thing?
Do you think that even the casinos around the corner pay out more than the online casinos today?
Do you think I am just unlucky or is there a system behind the whole mafia?
Are new users logged with wins, and regulars taken advantage of?
These are a few questions that I would like to see your point of view.
I have now written very carefully under this forum. Evtl may make one of the Admins, from this post a real thread?
This topic has been discussed here quite often and also a few times.
Regarding your streak of bad luck, one can say relatively little about it, ultimately it is and remains gambling.
I fully understand your frustration and also this thought that one would like to be rewarded with so many deposits also times,
inform of a "big win" where it is worthwhile to make a payout.
Nevertheless, it goes on permanently every player so, be it in the online casino, in the sports betting area or even with players in a gambling house.
I quote simply times Daniel of Gamblejoe with its last contribution to this topic there this relatively well fits to it
"Except for players who have won a big Jackpot and possibly a few professional Poker players, no player in the world is permanently in the plus"
And regarding all the streamers you can say the following, the casinos have no influence on the gameplay of the individual slots, all the slots run on individual servers of the providers, and no casino has access to it. They have at most influence on the account balance of a Streamer, i.e. if a big streamer is partnered with a casino, they usually have the luxury to claim a 100-200% bonus for every Deposit they make, and the bonus from the streamers has exactly the same conditions as for every other player.
There are exceptions, such as some dubious casinos that have no licenses and usually offer some plagiarized slots.
And last but not least I would like to mention that all the streamers where you can always see the beautiful "Big Win" videos, have a long and painful session behind them to be able to upload something like that, the big streamers can pay every month 5 or almost 6 digit amounts just to be able to bring in such wins.
The best example is Casinodaddy, they are now four or five I think and there is a reason for that
On Twitch they are mostly online from morning to night, they all push different shifts to keep the stream alive to generate many viewers and of course to be able to produce many videos, and now imagine you would really play without sleeping 24/7, you would certainly see exactly such big wins, but would now bleed just like all the streamers.
And each streamer is in the long run in the minus, in each Big Win video are several deposits and the drawn by several days / weeks, they can not keep afloat by the Big Wins, only by the many viewers and of course the Affilliate earnings.
If you want to hear my opinion, set yourself a certain limit for each month that you could just about get over, and try to stick to it and not go beyond. With a little luck you will eventually get back into a winning streak, but in the long run the casino wins, and every player should be aware of that.
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Hello Jan 😆... think that there is a system behind which we all do not like, but do not give up hope that it is vlt but not so. The speech is from once wins and then vlt again times to come into the plus, when the casino has at least everything back again. Sure, it can happen that you make a little profit during the game, but because of the incredible eating phases, the chance to make something bigger out of it is almost 0. But I also think that this scheme differs from casino to casino, the one eats everything away immediately and the other gives the always something to take you not quite the dignity, because you can thereby calm your guilty conscience again, because the feeling is conveyed, it was not so bad before, at least he gave me something back, now it works for sure. In the end, all have something in common, in the end you have only paid in. I have often experienced this, even if some believe otherwise, I find it strange that I have never been lucky again in the same casino, if there was a larger payout. Here was also already the question with the IP address... would not surprise me.... the mafia has its fingers everywhere.
Thank you for the detailed answers. Nice to be able to read other insights. I generally like that here at the forum.
Everyone has his own theory. The one with the mafia I find plausible
I'm curious whether more impressions and theories come to light.
I should let the zocken now rather completely, as to set me a limit. I'm a guy who beats too quickly over the edge.
It's not a big problem not to gamble, but to stop when you are gambling...
the moment you log in to the OC, you already know how high your theoretically possible win will be in this gaming session.
often two or three times the Deposit, less often ten to a hundred times, very rarely a thousand times...
but "no win" is also possible. the money is completely sucked in without giving anything worth mentioning. you know this
if you have reached the value, the climax of the session, it is better to pay out. because in the rarest cases there is still something to come.
you know this for sure, then you can play what you want, All Slots run badly. no matter which manufacturer.
here it is important to recognize when the climax is reached. however, the greed for more clouds the perception and you often miss the moment when you should better leave.
logging out and logging in again to end a session only works to a limited extent, since a not unimportant parameter, the deposit value, influences the winnings.
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I am new here. Jan is my name.
Maybe it helps a little to share the frustration with other people.
I have been playing in Online Casinos for several years. I have also often been lucky and had some payouts of several thousand euros.
Of course, I was always in the red. But the whole thing was still humane and it was fun to play.
That you lose in the end you know. If one plays already longer, then with the consciousness that one does not win at the end anyway. Still, I think it should be a little balanced and at least fun.
My last payout of just 1000 euros was over half a year ago. And before that there was a lull of several months.
Yes, it sounds strange in connection with the word "just once".
But if you invest more than 1000 to 2000 euros in
month, it is already not nice. In the whole time where more than 20,000 euros went on it, I had 2-3 times luck and came up from 100 euros to 400-500 euros. (My stake is usually 1-2 euros per spin)
The whole thing is really very depressing. Especially if you are already in the situation where you can't get out of the whole vicious circle.
Again and again I watch life streams on twitch or YouTube. And every time the big win is not long in coming.
I have the feeling that the casinos flip the switch on the life streamers to lure the ignorant people and make even more money.
How do you see the whole thing?
Do you think that even the casinos around the corner pay out more than the online casinos today?
Do you think I am just unlucky or is there a system behind the whole mafia?
Are new users logged with wins, and regulars taken advantage of?
These are a few questions that I would like to see your point of view.
I have now written very carefully under this forum. Evtl may make one of the Admins, from this post a real thread?
Greetings
Jan
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This topic has been discussed here quite often and also a few times.
Regarding your streak of bad luck, one can say relatively little about it, ultimately it is and remains gambling.
I fully understand your frustration and also this thought that one would like to be rewarded with so many deposits also times,
inform of a "big win" where it is worthwhile to make a payout.
Nevertheless, it goes on permanently every player so, be it in the online casino, in the sports betting area or even with players in a gambling house.
I quote simply times Daniel of Gamblejoe with its last contribution to this topic there this relatively well fits to it
"Except for players who have won a big Jackpot and possibly a few professional Poker players, no player in the world is permanently in the plus"
And regarding all the streamers you can say the following, the casinos have no influence on the gameplay of the individual slots, all the slots run on individual servers of the providers, and no casino has access to it. They have at most influence on the account balance of a Streamer, i.e. if a big streamer is partnered with a casino, they usually have the luxury to claim a 100-200% bonus for every Deposit they make, and the bonus from the streamers has exactly the same conditions as for every other player.
There are exceptions, such as some dubious casinos that have no licenses and usually offer some plagiarized slots.
And last but not least I would like to mention that all the streamers where you can always see the beautiful "Big Win" videos, have a long and painful session behind them to be able to upload something like that, the big streamers can pay every month 5 or almost 6 digit amounts just to be able to bring in such wins.
The best example is Casinodaddy, they are now four or five I think and there is a reason for that
On Twitch they are mostly online from morning to night, they all push different shifts to keep the stream alive to generate many viewers and of course to be able to produce many videos, and now imagine you would really play without sleeping 24/7, you would certainly see exactly such big wins, but would now bleed just like all the streamers.
And each streamer is in the long run in the minus, in each Big Win video are several deposits and the drawn by several days / weeks, they can not keep afloat by the Big Wins, only by the many viewers and of course the Affilliate earnings.
If you want to hear my opinion, set yourself a certain limit for each month that you could just about get over, and try to stick to it and not go beyond. With a little luck you will eventually get back into a winning streak, but in the long run the casino wins, and every player should be aware of that.
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Everyone has his own theory. The one with the mafia I find plausible
I'm curious whether more impressions and theories come to light.
I should let the zocken now rather completely, as to set me a limit. I'm a guy who beats too quickly over the edge.
It's not a big problem not to gamble, but to stop when you are gambling...
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often two or three times the Deposit, less often ten to a hundred times, very rarely a thousand times...
but "no win" is also possible. the money is completely sucked in without giving anything worth mentioning. you know this
if you have reached the value, the climax of the session, it is better to pay out. because in the rarest cases there is still something to come.
you know this for sure, then you can play what you want, All Slots run badly. no matter which manufacturer.
here it is important to recognize when the climax is reached. however, the greed for more clouds the perception and you often miss the moment when you should better leave.
logging out and logging in again to end a session only works to a limited extent, since a not unimportant parameter, the deposit value, influences the winnings.
This post has been translated automatically