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Conspiracy theories: Online casinos - calculated luck? (Page 2)

Topic created on 16th Feb. 2020 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 4,621
Dbac79
Elite

TheGoldenDwarf wrote on 02/16/2020 at 16:44
... even good Poker players get into the red...of course...

there is definitely NO single system, no rules not to play Roulette, not to play poker, not to play
Slots, not at sports betting, not at lotto etc to get into the minus ...

except not to start playing at all OR to be operator of an OC's, bookmaker,
or Westlotto itself...e.g ...

there is NEVER more payout going out (nowhere ! ) than before went in
on the contrary, all operators get (incl. state) their share because they provide any
Platforms on which the various players can then let off steam
can

Roulette in the casino on site must be excluded here in part, there it can be
that a player places the maximum bet on a number and then gets more than the
gets more than possibly the income of the casino on this day

Aluhut or her, completely does not matter, some win, also large sums, some lose,
losing is usually more frequent than winning, and the OC's get their 3 - 5
from EVERY spin their 3 - 5%, done, out. Nobody needs to cheat or anything else

Many probably also make the mistake to believe because they have now e.g. 300 € in an OC deposited
without win there would not run something right without forgetting that they evntl a few
Hours could play and thus of the 300 regular anyway hardly something is left over
especially since all jackpots are not gifts of the OC's

It is now times in such a way, one should tunlichst never play with money which one needs, is here probably
been written thousands of times and the Gambling addiction is a nasty addiction and to laugh about it
laughing about it is not very useful, not to say stupid


many players are all by the same coincidence to slots, get 10 euro bonus for registering and bang well won 3-4 figures, since then the thought is there "there can pay fat win" followed by "I pay a tenner and quickly make 200 euros out of it" sometimes it does not work sometimes but the interest in slots grows and you learn things like "RTP" already builds the thought of "10 euro and make 200 out of it is easy because the RTP with 95% is only 5% less than 100% because that would be equal to "I can't lose my money"" and then come the doubts when you lose "why do I always lose, they are cheating, it's all a scam" just because you don't understand that gambling means that you need luck not to lose your money and even more luck to win.

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Book-of-Fake
After the many years, one can definitely form an opinion and there is not the mindless thought that I would like to make 200 out of a tenner, although of course one would like that. There is quite a bit more money flowed, as I said back into my pocket, but it is unfortunately to observe a development trend that extends over a long period of time.

So it is my first and only account, why I am accused of this, I do not know, find this approach more than cheap.

But here simply much becomes clear to me, also, which concerns this forum... Perhaps one tries also simply to provoke, in order to find a reason an account to ban.

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Zwischenmeister wrote on 02/16/2020 at 5:00 pm: I can relate very much in the creator's post, understand

To believe that the providers would NOT create such player profiles of us, is naive and completely unworldly!!! I think it is absolutely self-evident that something like this is done (and then also used accordingly)

The statements regarding state regulation are then rather not so mine. The regulate already more than enough and anyway much too much

The knowledge about these profiles, on the other hand, also brings opportunities for the player, but not really long-term ones. The only thing that has potential is to vary one's gaming behavior very strongly, but that is difficult because one is a human being and a creature of habit and because the analysis software simply knows more about human behavior in the long run than the human being himself. If only because of the lack of emotionality

But it's hard to stop, even if you "know" all that...




you know between masters of course, the rules and regulations can be a real
but you must not forget that exactly these things keep us afloat
just keep us afloat or to say it from my point of view of things...
the sun still shines out of our ass...or would you rather be greek?
next example what happens when regulations and rules are of no interest to anyone
or are simply non-existent


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Kleinkariert
Expert
Book-of-Fake wrote on 16.02.2020 at 17:48: After the many years you can definitely form an opinion and there is not the mindless thought that I would like to make 200 from a tenner times, where you want that of course. There is quite a bit more money flowed, as I said also back into my pocket, but it is unfortunately a development trend to observe over a long period of time.

So it is my first and only account, why I am accused of this, I do not know, find this approach more than cheap.

But here simply a lot becomes clear to me, also, which concerns this forum... Perhaps one tries also simply to provoke, in order to find a reason an account to ban.

Your posts are provocative because as soon as one's own opinion is not immediately reciprocated one is casino worker, etc.

There are heavy loss phases in the online casino, stronger than offline because the slots have different profit distributions and potentials. In the casino, 50 € on 0.50 € is often enough for me even an hour or longer. Online it was often gone after 5-10 minutes. If not, then a big win was to blame for it and with big I mean that I once won 100-fold. Rarely have I reached a four-digit factor, no matter how many spins on a slot and yet I do not think I was greatly cheated by the slots.

I feel cheated if at all only by the casinos themselves, the interpretation of the rules, the poor technology when the slots laggen, when rules are unclear. Even if the payout takes forever, three weeks Verification is fraud in my eyes if it should be true. That's why I stay away from Aspire casinos, they find such waiting time as <very fast and responsible>. I also avoid casinos that use lower RTP versions if the Provider offers something like that, just that it is allowed without much labeling I find questionable.

But would never my own stupidity so much money do not gamble as my own fault. Germany and also no casino is in the duty to protect me if I do not have myself under control. It would be nice if, but it is best if you do something yourself. There is help available, but people underestimate how shitty it can be online. Some people actually take out a loan for gambling and that's where the red line is crossed. Sooner or later, the person will have ruined their whole life.</very>

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Book-of-Fake
But then explain to me why I regularly had days when every slot was running? That has nothing to do with an RNG. If that happens once, then that's luck, but unfortunately, that's the only way it ran for me

If I played Crystal Ball and it spit out, then I knew: ok, go to Books and Bulls, it will spit out too. King and Queen, Gates of Persia and Mighty Dragon were also coupled, to stay with Gamomat. I had similar experiences with Netent and the Provider of Game of Thrones, I can't remember the name now. That speaks against the coincidence. At some point, that was just the way it was.

I don't have a problem with losses either, but what frustrated me in the end was the lack of fun in the game, because it was just all predictable and there was just no thrill left, like there was at the beginning. The surprises stopped coming at some point.
Either things went really well for a short period of time or there was nothing for a long time. Unfortunately, there was nothing in between during my game sessions.

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Kleinkariert
Expert
Book-of-Fake wrote on 02/16/2020 at 7:12 pm: But then explain to me why I had regular days where every slot was running? After all, that has nothing to do with an RNG. If that happens once, then that's luck, but unfortunately that's the only way it ran for me

If I played Crystal Ball and it spit out, then I knew: ok, go to Books and Bulls, it will spit out too. King and Queen, Gates of Persia and Mighty Dragon were also coupled, to stay with Gamomat. I had similar experiences with Netent and the Provider of Game of Thrones, I can't remember the name now. That speaks against the coincidence. At some point, that was just the way it was.

I don't have a problem with losses either, but what frustrated me in the end was the lack of fun in the game, because it was just all predictable and there was just no thrill left, like there was at the beginning. The surprises stopped coming at some point.
Either things went really well for a short period of time or there was nothing for a long time. Unfortunately, there was nothing in between during my game sessions.

It has to be eaten again at some point, otherwise Big Wins can't happen. Someone has to suffer and how exactly this is handled in the background I can't say, but it's not automatically cheating if it suddenly stops running. This would come out much faster than you expect, there are a lot of people working on a single slot and this would be noticed and made public.

Even if I tell you now that I don't believe that cheating is going on, I can understand it and when gambling when it doesn't run, not only me but many people have such thoughts. Especially when you are suddenly logged out in free spins / when it goes well, when it starts to lag at the last € so right that you can no longer enjoy it or when brutally many dead spins come. It feels like a joke.

Online gambling can be very expensive because you never know how long the Deposit will last now. If things go badly, are you satisfied after 5 minutes? Mostly no, so you almost always deposit again. It gets bad when gambling takes up a large part of the evening or day. At some point you simply get very involved, and without other hobbies and good people around you, it's hard to get out of it. Even if you currently have no problems, you should always keep in mind how dangerous it can be.

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cbz490
Experienced
So my reasoning why they cheat anyway is this:

Everyone has experienced it or heard about it, you get a fat winning picture displayed and no win credited.

- The most common reason is "technical error from the provider"

Who of you has ever been contacted after free spins that the winning picture was too small?

Correct - NEVER!

So what does that mean for me?

- It is only looked in one direction for problems Only in the sense of the casino!

- We have no way to see that at all, so for me personally it's cheating!

Read for some time also only here and have the play hung on the nail

Love greetings


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Dbac79
Elite

cbz490 wrote on 02/17/2020 at 11:07 am: So my reasoning why they cheat anyway is this:

Everyone has experienced it or heard about it, you get a fat winning picture displayed and no win credited.

- The most common reason is "technical error from the provider"

Who of you has ever been contacted after free spins that the winning picture was too small?

Correct - NEVER!

So what does that mean for me?

- It is only looked in one direction for problems Only in the sense of the casino!

- We have no way to see that at all, so for me personally it's cheating!

Read for some time also only here and have the play hung on the nail

Love greetings



it doesn't matter what you get on your screen for a picture, it counts what is in the records of the casonos for your spin 36789235542. if it says that is a 0.00 win spins then you can send a thousand screenshots from your full screen

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cbz490
Experienced
Dbac79 wrote on 02/17/2020 at 11:41 AM

it doesn't matter what you get on your screen for a picture, it counts what is in the records of the casonos for your spin 36789235542. if it says that is a 0.00 win spins then you can send a thousand screenshots of your full screen


No, that's not what I'm talking about...

My point is that there are only winning pictures that are too high but never too low.

This means that only one winning picture is too high, which is guaranteed to be wrong

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Kleinkariert
Expert
cbz490 wrote on 02/17/2020 at 12:13 PM

No that's not my point at all....

My point is that there are only winning pictures that are too high but never too low.

This means that only one winning picture is too high, which is guaranteed to be wrong.

There are cases where the player has contacted the casino and received the difference (eg the game 300 shields). That a casino but only reacts quickly if it is in their own sense is true, if the player has a problem is first downplayed, stalled, etc. it can then take weeks until an answer comes at all. I find it terrible when game progress is simply reset and the casino acts as if you were stupid.

Games should generally be checked regularly, as soon as a bug exists the game should be taken down. Providers should be obliged to store the progress for at least 14-90 days (longer for very large wins). It can not be that if a game crashes in the free games that the Provider can say <Kann man nichts machen, haben keine Info dazu>. You have already lost as a player, then you do not have to destroy the rest of the fun with something like that.

But well it is a dream that in such areas is readjusted...</Kann>

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