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Conspiracy theories: Manipulation at BTG? (Page 8)

Topic created on 10th Jul. 2020 | Page: 8 of 16 | Answers: 159 | Views: 24,741
WithoutWings
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Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 09:29 am CEST#71
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Why are casinos always compared to the lottery are 2 completely different shoes

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wettibernd
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Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 09:39 am CEST#72
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Then take a random number in Excel between 1 and 10000000 how high do you think is the probability that the program throws you 2x in a row the same number?

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Anonym

Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 09:42 am CEST#73
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And if free spins have come to 20 cents, they would not have come to 2 euros at the same moment. This is also cheese. Every bet is different. I am also convinced of this

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b****a

Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 09:42 am CEST#74
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wettibernd wrote on 12.07.2020 at 09:21: If you had a 6 yesterday in the lottery, would you expect that to happen every month?

Sorry, that is nonsense. First of all, lotto is shown to me live. Is not evidence against Manipulation, but I

see it with my own eyes, and there is not a whole system working in the background.

Secondly, the win with 6 correct numbers is usually around a million euros.
Do you want to compare that now with your x1000 win on 20 cents?

And yes, there have been multiple lottery winners in a row.
So why should I stop? The chance is the same every time.
As with the casino, by the way, also......

You have given yourself the answer with your table.
There are people who can do it.

Show me an article where a player has won 3 days in a row in different online casinos
Online casinos has won really fat at normal bet! With Lottogewinner I find there quite a bit!
Despite 1:140,000,000! And there it is about tens of millions!

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wettibernd
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Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 09:53 am CEST#75
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Of course, Manipulation cannot be ruled out, but then I ask myself why actually when the mathematical advantage is already there. In my opinion, this is superfluous. Of course, you can argue that there are no limits to human greed, but that flies up sometime, has always been so, see VW scandal, cartels, etc. Only in gambling has come to light so far damn little, except times a few manipulated machines in a Spielo chain. As I said, the money runs on its own anyway.

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WithoutWings
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Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 09:56 am CEST#76
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You also have to see that we almost all play in different casinos and also the same games, none of us can calculate exactly how much the same slot operator has taken from us and has given out. But it will be stored and the small computer scientist who sits somewhere and has his instructions will not trumpet that into the world for there are gag contracts and enough money

Until one day vll also there times a whistleblower emerges who knows

Look at TV shows on how awesome one is fooled there in contrast to earlier everything posed planned and for us it should look as if it were all real. It's called entertainment. And it is also watched although everyone knows it, in the end we are actually all stupid and blinded.

My boss once said something nice ... who plays is stupid and even I have to acknowledge that

No one will win in the long run the only chance to win you have if you start new n Big win with take and stop otherwise we all lose and know that and still play including me

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b****a

Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 10:06 am CEST#77
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wettibernd wrote on 12.07.2020 at 09:53: Clearly a Manipulation can not be ruled out, but I wonder then why actually if the mathematical advantage is already there. In my opinion this is superfluous. Of course you can argue that there are no limits to human greed, but that flies up sometime, has always been so, see VW scandal, cartels, etc. Only in gambling, so far damn little has come to light, except a few manipulated machines in a Spielo chain. As I said, the money runs on its own anyway

That's right! Some of the cartels, however, have only been uncovered after tens of years. Some cartels

still exist to this day
Now the question is whether the casinos are really involved in mafia structures.
If I don't keep quiet then, I know what happens......

But I think they just want to cash in. And a confidant will probably be princely rewarded.
If he stays or goes will be irrelevant. He will get his hush money, as it is usus,
when cartels are formed. That will be made palatable, I assume

The money runs by itself, that is true, but it does not run so much. Many mouths are made full of it, and everyone wants
wants more if possible. The backers will be now also not necessarily squeamish. So what do you do?

I am well aware that these are speculations. Evidence in that sense does not exist.
We know that not every spin is independent of the previous one. Then there would be pictures, where someone
all explorers directly minest. 2xbehind each other. Unlikely, but with several millions of spins per day this must be
be feasible
The pause after a big win is almost always true. Also this should not be inevitably so, since each
Spin is independent of the previous one

One should only be aware that far away in Malta there are many possibilities to manipulate in the whole IT area.
One should not always dismiss this sweepingly with Aluhut and conspiracy, but should consider once, whether he would not
he would do the same. The long pauses after a real Big Win, as well as the real winning phase of several days, which does not
there is, speak just for it. End.

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Anonym

Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 10:08 am CEST#78
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WithoutWings wrote on 12.07.2020 at 09:56 clock: You must also see times we play almost all in different casinos and also the same games, none of us can calculate exactly with how much the same slot operator has taken from us and has given out. But it will be stored and the small computer scientist who sits somewhere and has his instructions will not trumpet that into the world for there are gag contracts and enough money

Until one day vll also there times a whistleblower emerges who knows

Look at TV shows on how awesome one is fooled there in contrast to earlier everything posed planned and for us it should look as if it were all real. It's called entertainment. And it is also watched although everyone knows it, in the end we are actually all stupid and blinded.

My boss once said something nice ... who plays is stupid and even I have to acknowledge that

No one will win in the long run the only chance to win you have if you start new n Big win with take and stop otherwise we all lose and know that and still play including me


No one will win in the long run the only chance you have to win is if you start fresh n big win and stop otherwise we all lose and know that and still play including me.

That is clear because 95% is rtp and not over 100% but you would have to win more often in succession in shorter intervals at pure chance. But does not happen as blackmamba already said. And not with such long feeding phases. Interface per manufacturer prevents this. That's how it will be.

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Anonym

Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 10:14 am CEST#79
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Chillaqueen92 wrote on 12.07.2020 at 09:42: And if free spins have come to 20 cents would not have come at the same moment to 2 euros. That is also cheese. Every bet is different. Am also convinced of this.

I am out of the discussion. After all, I have contributed my "naive" attitude

Something else: How long did it take you to get freespins on Vikings?

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Anonym

Manipulation at BTG?

12th Jul. 2020, at 10:56 am CEST#80
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Jokerboy wrote on 07/12/2020 at 10:14 AM
I'm out of the discussion. Contributed my "naive" attitude after all

On a different note, how long did it take you to get freespins on Vikings?

Don't take everything so personally. I didn't mean anything bad. On average every 400 spins cirka. Longest stretch without games 1845 spins. Why? In 205000 spins there were 3x factor 1500x and 5x minimum 500x

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