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Conspiracy theories: Manipulation at BTG? (Page 7)

Topic created on 10th Jul. 2020 | Page: 7 of 16 | Answers: 159 | Views: 24,249
derzweifel
Experienced
wettibernd wrote on 11.07.2020 at 11:26 am: I look at it this way, it's always the same:

I win nothing = Manipulation, fraud, conspiracy ---- Evidence? ---- none

I win = I got`s on it, my play is right ---- Evidence? ---- pictures here in the forum

Amen

The funniest thing is when people who have recently posted Big Win pictures suddenly start a losing streak. Understand that "losing" is the normal state for which these things were programmed and everything else is an exception. If you play long enough, every slot will take you apart

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Anonym
WithoutWings wrote on 10.07.2020 at 16:08: Somewhere I had seen this topic before but did not find it again

As some here know I play exclusively Who Whants to be a Millionaire

This week has shown me pretty clearly that there is absolutely nothing right.

I have also often won larger amounts, mostly in casinos where I was clearly in the red

Of course, I have also lost a lot of money which is just normal

I am currently in 3 casinos in the plus and in these I play almost exclusively (Platincasino / Videoslots / Wildz).

Since recently and I know it's not just me so runs BTG catastrophic

What bothers me but especially and I have now almost hourly that I always when I have the feeling that it's running just kicked out of the game. And it's definitely not because of the internet. After that, the money runs straight down

I have noticed in recent months and I really play 5-6 std daily, that you usually win something directly after the Deposit as if you are pressed on a place on a server that begrudges the sum XY, only that I now directly lose the connection and felt immediately be set back to standard or losing mode

It feels a bit like you have 10 seats and under one is gold under 9 are rivets, you pay in and get mostly on one of the cheap chairs, but if you get the good one you get kicked out to get the other. Funny example but that's how it feels

The whole thing is not a Mimi I have lost a lot of money contribution even if it has now cost me real high four-figure sums this week

Meanwhile, it is clear to me personally that here is clearly manipulated especially if you have won more than spent

Maybe you have made similar experiences during the week?

Oh yes free spins were of course still a lot but there was the factor ... and I'm talking here of determined 5-10 times free spins daily always at x10-x50 maximum and even after that it went directly completely downhill

Please spare me with this is all just a feeling and so:) I know that you would like to have so and do not want to believe and always think oh vll it's all coincidence but Nene.... unfortunately there will never be evidence for it there is far too much money behind what Malta of course richly profited

So anger is out Spielespass is gone for now and trust too

I believe you and BTG is really not going well. I have played so far best Extra Chilli, at some casinos also the bonus purchase function was deactivated and at one of my favorite casinos the game was suddenly removed completely.


Nevertheless, I must say, one of the most famous BTG - slots, nähmlich Bonanza sometimes runs quite well, but I myself have never found that I was kicked out of the game when it runs well.

Maybe you should avoid BTG completely for a while and play something else, because the several thousand euros that you have lost now try to get back will hardly be promising.

Nevertheless, I wish you much success in gambling.

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BERRY1407
Visitor
WithoutWings wrote on 10.07.2020 at 16:08: Somewhere I had seen this topic before but did not find it again

As some here know I play exclusively Who Whants to be a Millionaire

This week has shown me pretty clearly that there is absolutely nothing right.

I have also often won larger amounts, mostly in casinos where I was clearly in the red

Of course, I have also lost a lot of money which is just normal

I am currently in 3 casinos in the plus and in these I play almost exclusively (Platincasino / Videoslots / Wildz).

Since recently and I know it's not just me so runs BTG catastrophic

What bothers me but especially and I have now almost hourly that I always when I have the feeling that it's running just kicked out of the game. And it's definitely not because of the internet. After that, the money runs straight down

I have noticed in recent months and I really play 5-6 std daily, that you usually win directly after the Deposit something as if you are pressed on a place on a server that begrudges the sum XY, only that I now directly lose the connection and felt immediately be set back to standard or losing mode

It feels a bit like you have 10 seats and under one is gold under 9 are rivets, you pay in and get mostly on one of the cheap chairs, but if you get the good one you get kicked out to get the other. Funny example but that's how it feels

The whole thing is not a Mimi I have lost a lot of money contribution even if it has now cost me real high four-figure sums this week

Meanwhile, it is clear to me personally that here is clearly manipulated especially if you have won more than spent

Maybe you have made similar experiences during the week?

Oh yes free spins were of course still a lot but there was the factor ... and I'm talking here of determined 5-10 times free spins daily always at x10-x50 maximum and even after that it went directly completely downhill

Please spare me with this is all just a feeling and so:) I know that you would like to have so and do not want to believe and always think oh vll it's all coincidence but Nene.... unfortunately there will never be evidence for it there is far too much money behind what Malta of course richly profited

So anger is out Spielespass is gone for now and trust too

I am really glad that this now finally times one expresses.
I have also very, very often had the feeling that when I have won something, the number of spins of the slots as remote controlled.
Just when I have won something more at the slot, I notice again and again that the slot turns completely different and partly when turning the last reel goes down again, so that yes can not come the free spins.

This happened to me after wins at Vegas Hero, Kassu Casino and Casoola Casino.
I could do what I wanted, the reels always rotated as if stopped by remote control.

Please do not write now:
Do you suffer from paranoia, do you often imagine something, there are also days when you have no luck, etc.?

No I always notice that when I play after a payout, like quasi we get our money back already.

Incidentally, I play after winning payout only after a few months again, because I want to have something from the win.

Thank you for this post, because I also always Manipulation of the slots in mind when I notice that.

But I have also made a test:

I played at the beginning with 0,50,-€/cent, then I noticed that the slot counts nothing.
Then I went down to 0,10,-€/cent and lo and behold, there were three Scatters and 10 free spins.

If this is not manipulation, then I also do not know what it should be!

And strange creatures I have also not yet seen...😉

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Anonym
blackmamba wrote on 11.07.2020 at 13:52
So I can put you thousands of pictures of deathspins here. Then I have the proof of fraud,

or do I see it wrong? That's your logic!

Of course I could not prove fraud. The operators are not stupid, and do not make a fat
Sign with "proof" to any thing. Nevertheless, everything speaks for it. Almost uncontrolled, they float in a
Country, which became known as a tax and Mafiaoase, their mischief. Anyone who does not at least consider manipulation
Considers, is in my opinion completely unworldly. There are still made with completely different things money,
which most people here don't even know about

Do you really believe that the backers of the casinos all have a clean slate?
Let a little bit of your gut feeling and logic flow in.

Every spin always has the same possibility to win or lose. So it is simply impossible,
that very many people only lose for a while. That's only possible if you can either regulate it, or if you can
or that it is programmed that way from the beginning. Luck and bad luck are almost impossible in this constellation
excluded in this constellation.

If your best buddy is doing badly, if you have the choice between two cars... etc., you let your
Gut feeling decide. You don't need any evidence for that. If there would be proof, and maybe they come
someday, the whole industry would explode.

Moreover, I believe in the interface that one does not win extremely high in 5 different casinos in a row
wins. Let's assume 80.000€ per casino.the whole times 5.why doesn't something like that happen? Purely from
Luck, and the number of players probably hardly a problem, if it really depends on chance, bad luck and luck
would depend. It does not happen
because there is a
Fuse. Such interfaces are called cartels, by the way, and are widespread in the economy, and almost
already normal. All the larger companies are networked with each other, and talk to each other.

Only the Casono far away in Malta and uncontrolled behaves absolutely error-free? Yes who believes
something like that?

Of course, you have to let someone win now and then, otherwise you lose credibility completely.
People are networked nowadays, and something like that would get around quickly. Just like this
spreads quickly. So this is anything but proof of the "honesty" of the casinos.

Anyone who defends casinos here a la fortune and misfortune has never seen an online casino from the inside. Has never
evaluated the data, and also has no overview of how much is really paid in and out. And only on information
of the casinos themselves, that everything is pure coincidence, they defend the casinos here. Normally, those should
get a bonus from each casino.

And the argument with the minimum 3% win, and that's enough, is nonsense. People always want more.
Whether I earn 10,000€ a month or 50,000€ makes a small difference! Especially when it is not
not noticeable, and I have an army, which dismisses everything with coincidence. Then I can sit back comfortably,
and let them do the work, and laugh in myself.

By the way, I realize that my contribution is again dismissed as Aluhutgeschätz and conspiracy.
So you do the casinos the biggest favor, that's clear to you!
But makes times....

If I had a casino, of course, everything would be absolutely dependent on chance, everything would be controlled, and you can
trust me, of course. And then there are people, who carry this message out into the world, and defend it to the blood
defend.
Well then, congratulations and thank you very much!

P.S. Before again quite clever hobby psychologist people come, I am not frustrated!
I have never lost much, and I earn more than enough.
I just try to approach the whole thing from the logical side!

Find this contribution super

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B****3
I think you have a little error in thinking in your system

Many people think that if I gamble a lot, I'm entitled to a big win. That is the problem

Of course, you almost always lose, otherwise everyone would go broke

And when still cheerfully the pictures were posted with runs and runs still, there ran it with others probably just not

And when it did not run at without wings, it ran for it at kleinkariert .

Maybe one more thing to your interfaces
From which level in the casino does a manager know about such a system? Why have you never read about it? Why should a dismissed and disappointed manager not report about it ?

There are thousands of casinos, there would have been at least one for sure !??

One must simply realize that one loses regularly and nevertheless the hope remains after the big win, as with kleinkariert.

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WithoutWings
Expert
Only a handful of people who are well paid will be familiar with such interfaces. Despite several former employees, nothing is known about Area 51, although someone should have said something long ago🤓

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WithoutWings
Expert
I also understand the people who do not believe in Manipulation - I never did before

There are always 2 camps with such topics but you could also say that those who think it's all going right don't want to have it true or know. How easy our brains are to manipulate, you can see every day everywhere and casinos play with it without end. If I have a Big Win tomorrow, I would be the topic again no matter first but in the matter itself changes nothing.

I also do not think it is the casinos that are the ones. For me it is the slot operators.

When I started with Online Casinos I have played exclusively Play and Go until I have won at some point 8000 euros at BoD, since then came to this day no big win more that is now 2 years ago.

Since I have won at BTG 21000 came until today only cancellations or small things.

Current example at Push Gaming Razor Shark in one week won almost 4000 since then I see neither ne Alge nor free spins or anything more.

An addict also likes to see things he wants to see and invents things to justify playing that you must not forget. That starts with oh the 50 euros still go although it does not go or oh the winning picture looks good I must also test or or, although many do not want to play the brain tricks us again and again with it.
Just as I did not want to see that it runs absolutely calculating and even that does not stop me from playing because the brain then always tells me now vll go again or vll have the others right that is an eternal conflict that drives everyone into the bankruptcy sooner or later.

Just open your eyes a bit and do the math 😏

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wettibernd
Expert
If you had a 6 in the lottery yesterday, would you expect that to happen every month?

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Anonym
Blubbo33 wrote on 12/07/2020 at 07:49: I think you have a little thinking error in your system

Many are of the opinion that if I gamble a lot I am entitled to a big win . That is where the problem lies

Of course you almost always lose, otherwise everyone would go broke

And when still cheerfully the pictures were posted with runs and still runs, since it ran with others probably just not

And when it did not run at without wings, it ran for it at kleinkariert .

Maybe one more thing to your interfaces
From which level in the casino does a manager know about such a system? Why have you never read about it? Why should a dismissed and disappointed manager not report about it ?

There are thousands of casinos, there would have been at least one for sure !??

One must simply realize that one loses regularly and nevertheless the hope remains after the big win, as with kleinkariert.


I am not of the opinion. But it knows that if you play a lot also a bigwin of minimum 1000x comes with enough spins. No game took me longer than 100k spins for a minimum 1000x hit. That is a fact!

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b****a
Blubbo33 wrote on 12/07/2020 at 07:49: I think you have a little thinking error in your system

Many are of the opinion that if I gamble a lot I am entitled to a big win . That is where the problem lies

Of course you almost always lose, otherwise everyone would go broke

And when still cheerfully the pictures were posted with runs and still runs, since it ran with others probably just not

And when it did not run at without wings, it ran for it at kleinkariert .

Maybe one more thing to your interfaces
From which level in the casino does a manager know about such a system? Why have you never read about it? Why should a dismissed and disappointed manager not report about it ?

There are thousands of casinos, there would have been at least one for sure !??

One must simply realize that one loses regularly and nevertheless the hope remains after the big win, as with kleinkariert.


The following to the thinking error in the system:


Deutsche Bank (€726 million), Société Générale (446), Royal Bank of Scotland (391), JPMorgan (80), Citigroup (70), RP Martin (1), Daimler (€1.09 billion. €), Scania (€880 million), DAF (€753 million), Renault/Volvo (€670 million) Iveco (€495 million), MAN Daimler (€1.09 billion),
... Philips, LG Electronics, Panasonic, Samsung SDI, Thomson, Toshiba, MTPD, Chunghwa, Air France, KLM, British Airways, Cargolux, Singapore Airlines, SAS (increased by 50%), Cathay Pacific Airways, Japan Airlines xml-ph-1067@deepl.in

There are about several 100 companies in Germany alone that have been involved.
They were probably not really afraid of being exposed.

And now we are talking about Malta and casinos, and you want to tell me that everything is clean?
Sure!

A really teeny tiny sample of frms that were involved in cartels. Some of them went on for decades until they were busted. And then only by chance, not by someone talking. There are well-known manufacturers there that you wouldn't exactly think were involved. Once you're the nest-destroyer and spill the beans, you'll probably never find another job that resembles your old one. Your name will then go through the press, don't forget that! And the companies also know who has talked, and who has dragged a lot of people along with them
The system alone usually ensures that silence is the order of the day!


Also after aBig Win has kleinkariert with each spin the same chances to get one again.
Each spin is supposed to be independent of the one before, so why stop then?
Is not then indirectly the programming and thus Manipulation admitted?

Why are people advised to take a break after a Big Win because nothing more comes?
It can go on just the same, can't it? Or is it not?

Because not every spin depends on chance and is independent from the spin before!
And what does that tell us?

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