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Conspiracy theories: LEO VEGAS RIP OFF SCAM

Topic created on 23rd Nov. 2017 | Page: 1 of 5 | Answers: 44 | Views: 52,341
lotobor
I wanted to tell you about my experience with Leo Vegas

Have deposited in 3 days in total 3000€. But no time a 100x win on 4-5€ bet with 20-30 free spins at least in total,
the game what I played among other things has an alleged RTP of 96.7% !!!!

I have played without joke with 500€ deposits maximum 30min. on mainly 2-3€ bet, so not extremely high stakes.

The hammer once I have 300€ deposited with which I played exactly 9min on 2€ stake.
500€ deposited and played exactly 20min on 2-3€ stake and so on. Can see that in online banking exactly.

How can this be possible ???

Only exclusively down no balance nothing, I could have burned my money would have been the same no fun nothing.


I was definitely cheated that has nothing to do with gambling.
I know that of course you rarely win etc. but I have experience, I play for 10 years and such a thing is just pure rip-off

Offline I would have played with it for weeks.

I warn every player against this casino


The slots are definitely rigged on this site



This was simply a scam with 0 chance to win or get anything back.

Have deposited a total of half a year around 5000€ and not a single payout.








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Anonym
I can understand your anger.Leo is actually considered highly serious.Habe me with those though times about a protracted payout hoped but otherwise was actually nothing negative. Take me not bad but for me 2-3 € stake are already very high - a pink bill is gone quickly. But you're right for the amount of your Deposit gings pretty fast down. You just have to say again and again that there can be extreme luck or bad luck streaks. I'm really sorry for you!

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lotobor

Yes really bad just wanted to try my luck and have fun and possibly win something, just playing nice with ups and downs as it is normal

I have called the stakes, since some would then think yes 10-20€ stake is yes normal that 500€ are gone in 20min, it is also
but not to 2-3€, that is underground.






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Matthias
Expert
Hello Lotobor,

what happened to you at LeoVegas is really annoying, but I also have to admit that sometimes I curse some casinos inside.
Many of our regular readers know that I am currently VERY ACTIVE playing at Rizk, by now I'm almost at level 100 and that means... a lot deposited...

Within the first 4 weeks I lost over 20,000 euros at Rizk without even making a deposit.
Frustrated I have written to the support, puked me out there, but has also brought nothing, the next 10,000 euros were gone after another 3 weeks...

Only then I was able to request a payout of 3000 euros, but I canceled it myself.
At some point I got a SUPER MEGA WIN - my Pink Elephants Video:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/videos/pink-elephants-world-record-win/

Since then I have also gambled away a lot again, but can again pay out large amounts at regular intervals.
Of course, I'm overall in the red at Rizk, but my frustration is over.

It's all just gambling and profit and loss are often close together (I read this saying somewhere the other day)...

I keep my fingers crossed that things will go better for you at LeoVegas in the future, or that you will have more luck at another casino,
but please do not try desperately to win back the money, that usually never works out anyway... (as I was allowed to feel on my own body many times)...

Best regards and by the way, nice that you are now a new member with us!

LG
Matthias

P.S.: Despite your bad experience with LeoVegas, this casino has been rated as one of the TOP 5 Online Casinos by our members:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/online-casinos/leovegas/bewertung/
Note: We do not take any influence on the rating of the users and are happy to accept bad reviews if they are justified.

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Daniel
Elite
Thanks for your post and welcome to the forum,

What happened to you is called a run of bad luck. LeoVegas can not help it. LeoVegas or no other casino has access to the games. The games are hosted by NetEnt and LeoVegas and Co. only offer the games remotely via their website and cannot technically influence the games in any way.

Such a streak of bad luck can happen to you in any online casino and also in casinos, see here: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/spielotheken-und-spielbanken/spielbanken-und-kasinos/spielbank-stuttgart-abzocke-betrug-in-reinform-2943/

I've been playing for 8 years and I've experienced both extreme lucky streaks and extreme unlucky streaks in Online Casinos, gaming arcades and casinos.

It makes no difference in the long run in which casino you play. You have with games like Book of Ra, Jack and the Beanstalk but also with Roulette and Co. in every online casino always the same chances of winning. There are players who Deposit €50, have a lucky streak and win €20,000 or more. If something like this can happen, then it must of course also be possible to go in the other direction and there must be phases of extreme bad luck.

I would recommend you to understand what payout percentage means at all. Payout percentage does not mean that everyone gets 95% back. It also doesn't mean that a game accumulates €10,000 and then pays out €9,500 to someone at some point.

An AQ of 95% means that if you are a player with average luck, you will lose 5% of your bet. So if you play with 1€ per spin and have average luck, you will lose 5 cents per spin on average. So at 20 spins a minute that's an hourly loss of 60€. If you play with 60€ and 1€ bet longer than one hour or lose only 30€ in the hour, then you have already won and have above average luck. If it goes faster, then you just had above-average bad luck in the period.

The best thing to do is to read the guide articles on GambleJoe on the subject of slots & machine games, as well as the FAQ at the bottom of the page: https://www.gamblejoe.com/ratgeber/

After that you will know how slot games work online as well as offline. It may help you in the future to better estimate your chances of winning. These are worse than most players think.

As I said, LeoVegas is not responsible for your losses. A casino can not be judged by personal wins and losses, but rather by how the casino behaves in the event of a win and LeoVegas is really one of the reputable online casinos on the market in all areas.

I also moved this thread because complaints on GambleJoe are there to help players who have problems with a withdrawal, for example.

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c****7
Of course Mathias and Daniel are right. LeoVegas has subtly cheated me out of 800 EUR effectively, but it is still not a fraudulent casino. The nasty thing is the highly volatile slots. What gets me so riled up is the length of the lean periods. Mathias is definitely financially well off. I guess 20K losing streak hurts him, but he doesn't lose sleep over it. A normal person who gambles away a few thousand let alone 20K in a short time has a huge problem. I do not denounce Leovegas, but the game developers so Netent and consortia. Sure, someone wins 10K with 50 EUR, but then some people before him have really lost a lot of money.
I do not know how it looks with the thread creator, but I would advise to close the account. If it ran with me somewhere really dirty, then you have no confidence in the OC more or but you play with violence.
I sunk 15,000 EUR in a casino in October in one day. But there I was then so p**sed off that I have definitely stopped with online gambling and repeated me with lawyer help my money completely, which is but payment type dependent. With Paradise Papers in the media, it is currently quite good to prosecute OCs or payment service providers. Clearly this is borderline, but in certain situations absolutely justifiable from my point of view. This option has the thread creator if he has not paid with Sofort, they are in principle cross. The suck what goes, because in max 12 months, their business model is invalid thanks to the new SEPA regulation, which performs each transfer in 15 seconds.

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RiverSong
Legend
lotobor wrote on 11/23/2017 at 08:34 AM

Only exclusively down no equalize nothing,

gibts unfortunately far too often where not even small profits come and only slips very annoying but therefore can not talk about fraud, if you pay 50 and win 10000 it is also ok
what games have played there if I may ask.

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aaron
Hello everyone, I'll be brief, FINGER WAY FROM LEO VEGAS!!! That's all there is to say!

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Knochen
Elite
aaron wrote on 05/17/2018 at 16:07: Hello everyone, I'll be brief, FINGER WAY FROM LEO VEGAS!!!! That's 'it' there is nothing more to say!

Why? Did anything relevant happen or did you just lose?

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Anonym
I have to say that Leo Vegas is one of my favorites along with Videoslots, Sportingbet and Rizk
Only the processing of my Verification was a little longer with me. But since everything is verified, the processing of withdrawals takes less than 3 hours

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