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Conspiracy theories: HOW "independent" - is GJ? PSC lottery for OC assessment. :/ (Page 4)

Topic created on 30th Aug. 2019 | Page: 4 of 5 | Answers: 42 | Views: 10,471
Anonym

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1st Sep. 2019, at 12:45 am CEST#31
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Daniel wrote on 08/31/2019 23:13: I think it's a shame that user h****r has been banned and replying to a banned user who can no longer defend themselves is certainly not the finest English way either. As I said, I personally am against censorship or blocking members (except when our platform is used for third-party advertising or spam). However, since most here on the forum have been clamoring for such measures, we had to implement it and I ultimately accepted this step. Some "censorship measures" are unfortunately also required by law. For all those who think like me, I would like to apologize from therefore.

I address this answer to the blocked user personally in the hope that this helps him and similarly minded people to change their negative mindset. In my opinion, anyone with such a mindset has little chance of permanently getting a grip on their Gambling addiction or other psychological problems. I speak from my own experience.


What are we celebrated for? For driving people to ruin. But the writer is so bad that he can't do anything. But we can still drive people to ruin with it. So somehow I don't understand the logic behind it.

And why are we driving people to ruin?

I'm going to ask you a few questions, and I'd like you to answer them for yourself:

1. Who is to blame when an adult, responsible person drives himself to ruin with gambling? Is it really us? Or maybe the person himself?
2. If the person who ruins himself is addicted to gambling and knows about it, why does he blame an information website like GambleJoe or the casinos? Wouldn't it be better to recognize his gambling addiction and take serious action against it? I mean, the addiction is there and blaming others and bitter hatred of others won't change that fact, will it?
3. Is the person thinking altruistically and wants to spare others the same fate? What makes him think that he has found the right measures? And how does the person come to the conclusion that he can effectively help others, if he is currently still a victim of himself?
4. Wouldn't it make more sense to invest this energy in one's own recovery and later help others from a stable position and with a positive mindset?
5. Why does the person want GambleJoe to disappear? What would then change for himself or others? Aren't there thousands of other websites that would then take GambleJoe's place in Google? What do similar websites do better than us in terms of education?
6. Does the person want online gambling to be banned? What will change if everyone can continue to gamble in gambling houses or in any bar and lose 1,000€ every day?
7. Doesn't he think that in case of a ban the really bad guys are already waiting for that day? Doesn't he think that in the age of "anonymous" cryptocurrencies and worldwide networking, it would be easy for organized crime to circumvent this ban?
8. Does the person really think that bans on purely digital products can be effective in the digital age?
9. Are there gamers who are not addicted? If so, why should they be banned from having fun / enjoying the hobby?
10. Which gamers would comply / be able to comply with a ban? The normal players or the addicted players?
11. Which casino operators would abide by the ban? The good and reputable operators or the bad guys?
12. Where do most people get addicted. Where does the first contact with gambling take place in most cases? In Online Casinos or rather in pubs, snack bars, gas stations, etc. where often the age of the players is not so closely observed?
12. Who benefits from an online gambling ban? The addicts, the young people or rather those who hold the de facto monopoly on gambling in Germany, i.e. the state itself, Novomatic and Gauselmann? Who will get rid of the unpleasant and better competition?

When I answer these questions for myself, I come to the conclusion that banning online gambling would not help those who should be helped. The hobby gamblers will no longer have a hobby, the youth and Player protection will not get better and the addicts and the real criminals, however, will always find a way. That's how it is with drugs, and it would be even more so with purely digital products.

Since the Risk of addiction in gambling is high, regulation is needed - but not over-regulation. When it comes to player protection, all that is needed is minimal regulation, which ensures that players who no longer want to gamble can exclude or limit themselves. No more and no less. However, a person affected must recognize his own addiction and have himself barred. Some personal responsibility must be expected. Self-responsibility and self-reflection are anyway the minimum requirements that one must fulfill or learn. In my opinion, without these skills, one will not manage to get a grip on one's addiction.

The world is a big place and if you want to give up your responsibility and be happy with it, you can emigrate to North Korea, for example. Germany and Europe are unfortunately developing more and more in this direction.

Honestly Mathias, I know you are somehow as an operator always a bit in the duty even on the most senseless comments, the Wirschesten people here to respond, explain things or clarify. Not to lose sight of the objectivity, respect for it! ^^ as you know ME succeeds zB not always laugh

I estimate you and also the others in such a way that it is also a concern to you wrong things in the right light to move, logically because nobody can be denounced gladly in the public, put down as cheats or otherwise what. No one has been forced to be here and no one has tempted anyone in the past to gamble etc... everyone is responsible for themselves and their lives!!!! That was jedermans own decision!!!
Secondly, you certainly do not want to let such things break your leg, for which you have also worked and certainly sacrificed a lot of time to have financial success - totally clear (for me!)

I think that many do not even understand that this is not a Mother Theresa association and you have too much free time and that makes out of pure desire and whim, but that is a business model like any other also...

But such confused, completely dumb and pulled the hair claims whose untruth is recognizable by anyone with an IQ above that of a housefly, I would not sacrifice 10min of my time! First because with such types either the mind is not sufficient or however they simply do not want to understand it (which can have the most different reasons) truth does not want to hear so someone at all because his goal is confrontation short!!!! There you can unpack E=mc2 and afterwards they still claim that would be a recipe for chicken soup^^
Wasted energy
No one with sense will be influenced by such chatter in his opinion and those who do it without thinking critically, you can safely !!!do without!!! That would raise the level here (without wanting to name names now or want to lump all together), without a platform for such rags sometime determined I think

I just realize, in the advice to distribute I'm better than myself sometimes to stick to it:-D

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Daniel
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1st Sep. 2019, at 03:20 am CEST#32
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auswerlNRW wrote on 01/09/2019 00:45: I think that many do not even realize that this is not a Mother Theresa association and you have too much free time and that makes out of pure desire and whim, but that this is a business model like any other also...

But such confused, completely dumb and pulled the hair claims whose untruth is recognizable by anyone with an IQ above that of a housefly, I would not sacrifice 10min of my time! First because with such types either the mind is not sufficient or however they simply do not want to understand it (which can have the most different reasons) truth does not want to hear so someone at all because his goal is confrontation short!!!! There you can unpack E=mc2 and afterwards they still claim that would be a recipe for chicken soup^^
Wasted energy

I don't think it is wasted energy. Maybe 20 people read it who are similarly polarized and maybe it helps one of them. Everybody who writes like this has some problems. I myself was once similarly polarized and that makes you unhappy and with the right disposition also seriously mentally ill and / or addicted to gambling. When I changed this mindset, many psychological problems that I myself had dissolved or at least improved.


I can really only recommend this to everyone (especially addicted gamblers) to work on their mindset. If you are unhappy in your life you are doing something wrong or have the wrong mindset. There are even homeless people who are happy, see: https://www.otz.de/leben/land-und-leute/frei-gluecklich-und-obdachlos-ehemaliger-student-lebt-freiwillig-auf-der-strasse-das-ist-seine-geschichte-id225258127.html

The man in this article did everything right. I am envious of such a mindset (in a positive sense). I couldn't be happy as a homeless person, I would be interested in how that works though. If you've got that down, you've got it made!

I, for example, had a normal job and got depressed. Then lost the job and I thought if only I had a little more money and freedom I would be happy. Then I had earned double / triple and quadruple than before as an employee and had freedom. However, it didn't get better, in fact it got worse. I can even say that I was worse off in my financial best time than ever before. I really suffered extremely and I think almost anyone else would have taken their own life.

I had gotten rid of the extremely heavy money worries (as far as that is possible as a regular gambler) but my mindset was the same as before. Money has one characteristic: it strengthens the positive as well as the negative character traits, simply because the freedom gives you more time to think and other worries fall away. However, with the wrong mindset, the brain looks for other problems and these feel even stronger than the really existential problems before. With the wrong mindset, money is poison! Look at some actors how they are doing: suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.

Thinking for myself and fighting envy and jealousy were the most important steps for me to improve my mental health.

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1st Sep. 2019, at 06:23 am CEST#33
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Daniel wrote at 03:20 on 2019-09-01

I don't think it's wasted energy. Maybe 20 people who are similarly polarized will read it and it might help one of them. Everyone who writes like this has some kind of problems. I myself was once similarly polarized and that makes you unhappy and with the right disposition also seriously mentally ill and / or addicted to gambling. When I changed this mindset, many psychological problems that I myself had dissolved or at least improved.


I can really only recommend this to everyone (especially addicted gamblers) to work on their mindset. If you are unhappy in your life you are doing something wrong or have the wrong mindset. There are even homeless people who are happy, see: https://www.otz.de/leben/land-und-leute/frei-gluecklich-und-obdachlos-ehemaliger-student-lebt-freiwillig-auf-der-strasse-das-ist-seine-geschichte-id225258127.html

The man in this article did everything right. I am envious of such a mindset (in a positive sense). I couldn't be happy as a homeless person, I would be interested in how that works though. If you've got that down, you've got it made!

I, for example, had a normal job and got depressed. Then lost the job and I thought if only I had a little more money and freedom I would be happy. Then I had earned double / triple and quadruple than before as an employee and had freedom. However, it didn't get better, in fact it got worse. I can even say that I was worse off in my financial best time than ever before. I really suffered extremely and I think almost anyone else would have taken their own life.

I had gotten rid of the extremely heavy money worries (as far as that is possible as a regular gambler) but my mindset was the same as before. Money has one characteristic: it strengthens the positive as well as the negative character traits, simply because the freedom gives you more time to think and other worries fall away. However, with the wrong mindset, the brain looks for other problems and these feel even stronger than the really existential problems before. With the wrong mindset, money is poison! Look at some actors how they are doing: suicide, drug and alcohol abuse etc.

Thinking for myself and fighting envy and jealousy were the most important steps for me to improve my mental health.

Okay, so of course if it's SO serious... that's bad. Although I gamble since I'm 8 years old and with age more and more and also totally different things came to it and was also always already above average much, also in each decade several buddies, acquaintances, friends and people had which are also addicted to the Zockerei (we had yes, so my Ma and I... 23 years also ne own gr. arcade) never the feeling that I would want to change it... although I was with 25j. was already aware that I had at the time certainly already nen Porsche turbo gambled away... also with the many other people I met so in my life and who have to do with it never experienced one of the now of the gambling in an EXTREMES psychological problem fell... and there were all kinds of gamblers, whether betting, arcade, casinos like Hohensyburg (my ex-brother-in-law, Italian, was 16 years with my sis zsm. zB came with 19j. to Germany, a thick alpha Romeo and 150 000 at that time still DM of his grandpa inherited within 1 jahres in Hohensyburg verbraten) Sure, one has talked about it, otherwise I would not know about it but was just so the story... he probably would have liked to have back again I think but he has never somehow whined or so... Me gehts similar, although I'm aware that probably in the course of the last few decades a few hundred K were destroyed I could not somehow so reinsteigern there or mourn that although I also know exactly what it means to live even just at subsistence level means... especially childhood and early adolescence and times here and there for maybe times n half year or so. Have e.g. also around our arcade (actually, this is ne evening-filling story but I'll try to keep it short) met a Greek, certainly now 20 years ago... yesterday still phoned with, which was safecracker in Greece, is then run away there and has since lived in Germany alone... (Greeks have that anyway always in the blood the gambling^^), if the so his stories told... evening to Hohensyburg with 5k, a few std later 90k out... directly from the casino to the airport etc... other way around of course also happened. But we all tell each other our stories and how violent that time or another time was... but that we are now totally mourning I have never seen anyone toi toi toi... at least this problem has not had;-) Of course I am aware that there is that and that it has different effects on different characters....if there somehow a husband, family man (as one always hears from the horror stories that one tells so people so that they never start to play "...the has HAUS und HOF verzockt,... one knows yes these sayings ) Sure, such a thing is of course bitter and can bring life-changing things with it. Who is then unstable may go so far that he hangs away or so.... To one with us from the hall I can remember, was electrician (was at DM times still, Markus his name) 100m further from our arcade... the came day after day and each time Fuffis ...give 10 5s... 156min later 10 5s... zack zack, 6 hours later shift change - cashier made, there you could always calculate approximately then if now not so much was going on how much a certain ca. had lost, were 1.5 K away... next day he came again, and lost and lost... went certainly 2-3 years, do not know more exactly but I remember how I talked with my Ma and our employees from time to time about it... "hm... how does it? Electrician. Blows 4k DM in the week... well, no idea... but it's not our beer, is old enough
Sometime, years later I met him again and we talked briefly about old times, he said "yes of course, totally made debts etc pepe" sometime then stopped and also never started again
But as I mentioned in the beginning, with the spent money, although I had NOTHING, I never had problems or even psychological effects. Is but only printed paper;-)) you know what you do and that it can be gone... but I also had a lot of FUN in the years, even on days where then in the end everything was gone Then you're somehow with two three colleagues at night to Dortmund or elsewhere, were indeed gambling, have lost a lot of times, but have still consumed any craty nights in which you have met people to the Otto nomal citizen does not think and in all variations^^
Well... as I said, the story has with me but also had WHOLE other sides for years on which I now do not want to go into detail here (but maybe you can already think that I'm talking about an extremely criminal life...not at first of course, but the more money was in the game, the more worked, the other, higher criminals you have met and also a certain lifestyle went along with it)
From this life... with the people from this life, of course I experienced the FULL PROGRAM !!!! I tell you here no stories, it was just as it was and I'm not ashamed of it, ENTIRELY THE OPPOSITE... even if every Otto Normal citizen would say "oh neh, not worth it or would be nothing for me, even for a lot of money, etc." For me personally was THAT and indeed EXACTLY THAT the hottest 10-11 years of my actually pretty crappy life from childhood... this shitty life I since I was a little boy not otherwise knew (and that held the full program for me ready eg violence from my father against me my two sisters and my ma in a nasty way. And my father was such a type "of the old blow", a pithy type if you know what that means, where the reached rarely grew grass... and that was not such an alky high-rise ghetto father, but the man was hardcore because he was just a real bad motherf**ker Sometime with 16,17,18j. I had (at the time I lived alone with my ma... sisters are 8 and 10 years older alone) we had NOTHING, GAR NOTHING!!!! I had 2 pants... and was 7,8,9 school year at the time... and as kids are at that age "kids can be cruel". I was after the violent jahen as a child, also in the following years only with a few friends on the road... and that was also the reason why I did 14 years 5-6 times a week sports, THAT was the first time I felt positive and üüüüberdurchschnittlich was good at things than everyone else. That was my life so until 20... but so with 16,17 I had in mind "wtf is that for a life, from now on EVERYTHING goes past my ass, I die tomorrow, f**k it!) And so the next almost 11 years were pre-programmed.... physically I was EXTREMELY fit, have made at that time still Fachabi to end (just so)^^ and really everything I touched from then on became gold, EVERYTHING!!!! So you get to know the next people again... my best buddy at the time was called Ersan Özcan (brother was already expelled from Germany), he just came out of prison but we were from the beginning on the same wavelength.... everything I did not know or was not so mine until then I did a short time later and vice versa.... then money came in (had dessert drawers full at that time ), then drugs came in (however I was never headless or careless, some things I have NEVER touched, until today not because it is clear... once start with the really heavy shit and you can also throw yourself in front train) Around me I knew a hundred people.... i was hardly at home, always on the road... met groups from Hagen consisting of Turks, Russians, Germans... who drove around with pump guns in the trunk, etc.... met so many different people, from refugees Albanian boys who were here alone... oh, as I said long story. In the life I have seen all the misery, have seen so many in the psychiatry or prison come I can not even count! Therefore, psychological problems etc. I know... just not from gambling

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1st Sep. 2019, at 06:24 am CEST#34
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when you talk about Mindset I immediately think of ONLINE Poker again Raise your Edge hehe^^ Yesterday I saw a video about Mindset with Tobias Reinkemeier

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1st Sep. 2019, at 06:40 am CEST#35
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when you talk about Mindset I immediately think of ONLINE Poker again Raise your Edge hehe^^ Yesterday I saw a video about Mindset with Tobias Reinkemeier

Maybe this is actually something for me... because the last few years I have, no plan... no more juice, bock to nothing... somehow everything is not really as I would like it but I come out of the valley of tears somehow not out. Maybe liegts also on getting older... well, bischen maybe^^ Honestly I feel purely headwise still like 20 haha... unfortunately, life has changed around you totally, I have also changed... actually not even because I wanted it, rather my Ma for the sake... the now also 81j. is and the only hearty person without any evil, without any negative thinking was I ever kennengelrnt^^ Sometime, pretty much at the end of these years of which I told turned once the luck and they have me (fortunately only at na trifle, kilos of hashish, a few other things + import into the FRG on the ass got and she had to visit me in Krefeld Wilich I and Mönchengladbach come^^ There was such a moment where I thought, i can the woman who would have earned a lot but had only little in life no further or again do... have served a little, a little probation a few years, a few k fine... and that's it for me... is already several, several years all meanwhile ago.... The time, fast money, fast life... sits so in me inside that I can hardly find a foothold in a normal life. I start always irgednwo to work... any of the superiors goes to me on the nuts... I hold back, eat months everything in me purely and sometime bursts me the collar because I think "you little shitty sausage, you rag... if I would want I stand tonight before your bed" ...bang, again unemployed few months... next company. Without joke, that is the burden I carry


I was about to ask, are you SCHNITTE, the guy on the photo? ;D haha... but his name is Micha I just see^^
The report I can not read, unfortunately, want to have coal or that I am somehow registered ;(

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1st Sep. 2019, at 07:17 am CEST#36
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My best, Ersan... and do not be fooled by appearances;-) ... he is a rip-off, hard-boiled guy... we two, pitch and brimstone^^

Miri Clan (if not eh known, google times) the family has thousands of members throughout Germany... since we were children we know each other


They are of course still in the middle of it;-)



... so, enough on laberkick revealed for today hahah... adios



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1st Sep. 2019, at 08:22 am CEST#37
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Gibts here no block function that you no longer have to read posts from certain people?

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1st Sep. 2019, at 11:38 am CEST#38
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I find it very difficult to read such long posts without paragraphs.

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1st Sep. 2019, at 11:40 am CEST#39
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robby811 wrote on 01/09/2019 at 08:22: Gibtts hier keine Block funktion das man Posts von bestimmten Leuten nicht mehr lesen müssen?!?

Then the forum would be extinct in 3 days xD

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2nd Sep. 2019, at 12:36 am CEST#40
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upola wrote on 2019-09-01 11:38: I find it very difficult to read such long posts without paragraphs.

yes sry... was actually only meant for Daniel, have me there a little bit of chatter, further gings then by PN I wondered myself why this has suddenly become such a long text... just do not pay attention

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