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31st Aug. 2019, at 01:02 am CEST#20
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Totoro wrote on 08/30/2019 11:17: Let's tar and feather him. Let him receive his just punishment. Also, I accuse him of heresy
So, make something of it.
Blood eagle would be fine too.
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31st Aug. 2019, at 01:05 am CEST#21
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upola wrote on 30.08.2019 at 12:24 pm: The TE snotty 2 sentences, and then no longer...that says it all.
And what exactly does it all say Mr. and Mrs. or Diverse Upola?
That people also have to work and can not PLAY all day? Or what exactly does your enlightening contribution mean???
Yes - it may be that I as a TE have exaggerated a little - but this Gedisse here in this gambling addicts forum is really the last.
Well, you seem to be at least a rather bitter toadstool who can't reflect. Maybe you don't have a handle on yourself either, since you write of "ruin". So far, this forum has not brought me to ruin and probably not some others either. After all, they are all adults and know what they are doing with their money. So far I don't know that anyone here has been forced to pay into a casino. Also don't have the feeling that I financed Matthias' vacation. LOL. So there was nothing debited from my account and about my deposits in casinos was also not under purpose "vacation Matthias"
I think you just have a tit
Why do not you actually post under conspiracy theory?
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31st Aug. 2019, at 01:13 am CEST#23
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hakoper wrote on 08/30/2019 at 23:59: Oh look, the Matthias is also back. Had a nice vacation? Have also enough people from here
financed. For the good conscience, a few PSC rausgehauen, and laughed at the people kaputt.
I can well understand. You are celebrated, and you drive people to ruin. You, Daniel, this bad
Writer, who only produces garbage...... is already ne cool thing. Then still fat cashed for the reviews.
Again a few PSC rausgehauen, and already again a few thousand more. So fast it goes, if one is an unscrupulous
Something is. The people here partly do not know how to pay bills, but find it good,
that your vacation was nice. You just have to be a lousy object, then you can enjoy it.
But why is your server located in the Netherlands? Does this have a certain reason, or do you only connect
the trips for the supplies? Or is there a completely different reason?
Be glad that the people here are so stupid. So you can live, while others soon live on the street.
No better than the people on Twitch. Fooling, dazzle, give away PSC, not on the age
don't look at age. All the streamers, you are not a bit better
And now have fun earning more.always nice to f**k with people.
Oh yeah, that's right Caro, it's now standard to require notarizations. Can the casinos nothing
for, is because of money laundering. Tell me, how stupid do you think people are here? Ha ha, there but everything rausgehauen,
what was in the head, huh?
Do not forget to lock. I am certainly a banned user and have violated the rules, ha ha.
Small Tip: Instead of being deleted here for the 2190th time by the OC-glorifying gods from Malta - direct your energy vl. times to introduce this forum to the Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland, or Panorama, or other journalists. They have surely joy in it. Especially also at the interesting address in the imprint and who else resides there and what he offers
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31st Aug. 2019, at 01:45 am CEST#24
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hakoper wrote on 08/30/2019 at 23:59: Oh look, the Matthias is also back. Had a nice vacation? Have also enough people from here
financed. For the good conscience, a few PSC rausgehauen, and laughed at the people kaputt.
I can well understand. You are celebrated, and you drive people to ruin. You, Daniel, this bad
Writer, who only produces garbage...... is already ne cool thing. Then still fat cashed for the reviews.
Again a few PSC rausgehauen, and already again a few thousand more. So fast it goes, if one is an unscrupulous
Something is. The people here partly do not know how to pay bills, but find it good,
that your vacation was nice. You just have to be a lousy object, then you can enjoy it.
But why is your server located in the Netherlands? Does this have a certain reason, or do you only connect
the trips for the supplies? Or is there a completely different reason?
Be glad that the people here are so stupid. So you can live, while others soon live on the street.
No better than the people on Twitch. Fooling, dazzle, give away PSC, not on the age
don't look at age. All the streamers, you are not a bit better
And now have fun earning more.always nice to f**k with people.
Oh yeah, that's right Caro, it's now standard to require notarizations. Can the casinos nothing
for, is because of money laundering. Tell me, how stupid do you think people are here? Ha ha, there but everything rausgehauen,
what was in the head, huh?
Do not forget to lock. I am certainly a banned user and have violated the rules, ha ha.
So I can understand your anger at Twitch and the streamers, because I find that there is ACTIVE trying to recruit customers. And there is shit on whether and how many minors are watching. On Twitch young lives are ruined and not in any Internet forums.
But this is a forum where you have the opportunity to support the operators of the site by signing up through the links in the respective casinos. (I would never do this, because I don't want others to earn money from my "downfall". The same goes for the links among the streamers on Twitch! If people want to do that, everyone is free to do so)
I can not imagine that anyone here is driven to ruin by anyone. I was namely long before game addicted when I became aware of the page here.
Let your frustration out on Twitch rather than here... The people who look here are usually already in the game addiction trap.
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hakoper wrote on 08/30/2019 at 23:59: Oh look, the Matthias is also back. Had a nice vacation? Have also enough people from here
financed. For the good conscience, a few PSC rausgehauen, and laughed at the people kaputt.
I can well understand. You are celebrated, and you drive people to ruin. You, Daniel, this bad
Writer, who only produces garbage...... is already ne cool thing. Then still fat cashed for the reviews.
Again a few PSC rausgehauen, and already again a few thousand more. So fast it goes, if one is an unscrupulous
Something is. The people here partly do not know how to pay bills, but find it good,
that your vacation was nice. You just have to be a lousy object, then you can enjoy it.
But why is your server located in the Netherlands? Does this have a certain reason, or do you only connect
the trips for the supplies? Or is there a completely different reason?
Be glad that the people here are so stupid. So you can live, while others soon live on the street.
No better than the people on Twitch. Fooling, dazzle, give away PSC, not on the age
don't look at age. All the streamers, you are not a bit better
And now have fun earning more.always nice to f**k with people.
Oh yeah, that's right Caro, it's now standard to require notarizations. Can the casinos nothing
for, is because of money laundering. Tell me, how stupid do you think people are here? Ha ha, there but everything rausgehauen,
what was in the head, huh?
Do not forget to lock. I am certainly a banned user and have violated the rules, ha ha.
there you can see how harmful drugs CAN be.... if you mix them with turpentine^^
THEREFORE dear kiddies fingers away
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31st Aug. 2019, at 11:13 pm CEST#27
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I think it's a shame that the user h****r has been banned (**) and replying to a banned user who can no longer defend himself is certainly not the fine English way either. As I said, I personally am against censorship or banning members (except when our platform is used for extraneous advertising or spam). However, since most here on the forum have been clamoring for such measures, we had to implement it and I ultimately accepted this step. Some "censorship measures" are unfortunately also required by law. For all those who think like me, I would like to apologize from therefore.
(**) Edit: This user is a double account of an already banned user - therefore the ban was justified.
I address this reply to the banned user personally in the hope that this will help him and similar minded people to change their negative mindset. In my opinion, anyone with such a mindset has little chance of permanently getting a grip on their Gambling addiction or other psychological problems. I speak from my own experience.
h****r wrote on 08/30/2019 at 23:59: Oh look, Matthias is back too. Had a nice vacation? Have also enough people from here
financed. For the good conscience, a few PSC rausgehauen, and laughed at the people kaputt.
The people from here have not financed anything - at least not directly. Our platform was, is and remains completely free for the users. No one will ever receive a payment request or an invoice from us for using our platform. In fact, the opposite is true: whoever participates here is occasionally and with a little luck rewarded with a Paysafecard for free use.
The PSC's are not given out for a good conscience, but out of gratitude. We don't need to have a guilty conscience for this portal - why should we? We are the only ones (I don't know if we are still the only ones) or the first ones to operate a portal of this kind and to provide comprehensive and unsparing information about gambling. The users have their say here and can verbally defend themselves against unfair providers in the form of forum posts or ratings. And yes, negative reviews are also allowed and compensated. And sometimes even positive reviews are not allowed if, for example, they simply say: "I won, so the casino is good".
And we very rarely laugh at our users and for users like you we or I rather feel pity. The latter is not meant pejoratively, I had a time in which I was similarly knitted but over the years it has changed. And the more my mindset changed, the more success and satisfaction I could achieve. And that in ALL areas of life. Be it with women, be it with business or be it with various mental ailments.
We offer a platform where users can positively influence the market. Of course, this does not happen overnight, but we see overall success and some casinos have changed their bad business practices. Positive examples are Lapalingo and Platincasino.
h****r wrote on 08/30/2019 at 23:59: I can well understand. You are celebrated and you are driving people to ruin. You, Daniel, this bad writer who only produces garbage...... is already ne cool thing. Then still fat cashed for the reviews.
Again a few PSC rausgehauen, and already again a few thousand more. So fast it goes, if one is an unscrupulous
Something is. The people here partly do not know how to pay bills, but find it good,
that your vacation was nice. You just have to be a lousy object, then you can enjoy it.
For what are we celebrated? For driving people to ruin. But the writer is so bad that he can't do anything. But we can still drive people to ruin with it. So somehow I don't understand the logic behind it.
And why are we driving people to ruin?
I'm going to ask you a few questions, and I'd like you to answer them for yourself:
1. Who is to blame when an adult, responsible person drives himself to ruin with gambling? Is it really us? Or maybe the person himself?
2. If the person who ruins himself is addicted to gambling and knows about it, why does he blame an information website like GambleJoe or the casinos? Wouldn't it be better to recognize his gambling addiction and take serious action against it? I mean, the addiction is there and blaming others and bitter hatred of others won't change that fact, will it?
3. Is the person thinking altruistically and wants to spare others the same fate? What makes him think that he has found the right measures? And how does the person come to the conclusion that he can effectively help others, if he is currently still a victim of himself?
4. Wouldn't it make more sense to invest this energy in one's own recovery and later help others from a stable position and with a positive mindset?
5. Why does the person want GambleJoe to disappear? What would then change for himself or others? Aren't there thousands of other websites that would then take GambleJoe's place in Google? What do similar websites do better than us in terms of education?
6. Does the person want online gambling to be banned? What will change if everyone can continue to gamble in gambling houses or in any bar and lose 1,000€ every day?
7. Doesn't he think that in case of a ban the really bad guys are already waiting for that day? Doesn't he think that in the age of "anonymous" cryptocurrencies and worldwide networking, it would be easy for organized crime to circumvent this ban?
8. Does the person really think that bans on purely digital products can be effective in the digital age?
9. Are there gamers who are not addicted? If so, why should they be banned from having fun / enjoying the hobby?
10. Which gamers would comply / be able to comply with a ban? The normal players or the addicted players?
11. Which casino operators would abide by the ban? The good and reputable operators or the bad guys?
12. Where do most people get addicted. Where does the first contact with gambling take place in most cases? In Online Casinos or rather in pubs, snack bars, gas stations, etc. where often the age of the players is not so closely observed?
12. Who benefits from an online gambling ban? The addicts, the young people or rather those who hold the de facto monopoly on gambling in Germany, i.e. the state itself, Novomatic and Gauselmann? Who will get rid of the unpleasant and better competition?
If I answer these questions for myself, I come to the conclusion that banning online gambling would not help those who should be helped. The hobby gamblers will no longer have a hobby, the youth and Player protection will not get better and the addicted and the really criminal ones, however, will always find a way. That's how it is with drugs, and it would be even more so with purely digital products.
Since the Risk of addiction in gambling is high, regulation is needed - but not over-regulation. When it comes to player protection, all that is needed is minimal regulation, which ensures that players who no longer want to gamble can exclude or limit themselves. No more and no less. However, a person affected must recognize his own addiction and have himself barred. Some personal responsibility must be expected. Self-responsibility and self-reflection are anyway the minimum requirements that one must fulfill or learn. In my opinion, without these skills, you will not be able to get a grip on your addiction.
The world is a big place and if you want to give up your responsibility and be happy with it, you can emigrate to North Korea, for example. Germany and Europe are unfortunately developing more and more in this direction
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31st Aug. 2019, at 11:36 pm CEST#28
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Daniel wrote on 08/31/2019 at 23:13: I
1. Whose fault is it when an adult, responsible person drives himself to ruin with gambling? Really us? Or maybe the person himself?
The world is a big place and those who want to give up their responsibility and be happy can emigrate to North Korea, for example. Germany and Europe are unfortunately developing more and more in this direction.
Oh Oh...daring assertion!
Similar to when a sniper says: "Not I or my gun kill - only the bullet kills."
The saying also has something of "abdicating responsibility"....
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31st Aug. 2019, at 11:49 pm CEST#29
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I think I've seen 30,40 new player nicks under 6 posts here in the last few days and especially early in the morning 3-4 new ones with 1 or 2 posts are added every day... a rogue who thinks evil of it^^
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1st Sep. 2019, at 12:21 am CEST#30
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Seniorfips wrote on 08/30/2019 01:02 AM
the bewertungen are first of all nevertheless already readable, moreover it is rather checked whether the text is legible, or whether enie megne felher dirnnen snid. Negative reviews are allowed just like positive ones...
I don't want to defend anyone, but I think GJ can't be accused of "censorship". There are also many scathing reviews. If I would read such as an information seeker, then I would think 3 times whether I register there. And these ratings are not deleted or something.
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Blood eagle would be fine too.
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And what exactly does it all say Mr. and Mrs. or Diverse Upola?
That people also have to work and can not PLAY all day? Or what exactly does your enlightening contribution mean???
Yes - it may be that I as a TE have exaggerated a little - but this Gedisse here in this gambling addicts forum is really the last.
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Well, you seem to be at least a rather bitter toadstool who can't reflect. Maybe you don't have a handle on yourself either, since you write of "ruin". So far, this forum has not brought me to ruin and probably not some others either. After all, they are all adults and know what they are doing with their money. So far I don't know that anyone here has been forced to pay into a casino. Also don't have the feeling that I financed Matthias' vacation. LOL. So there was nothing debited from my account and about my deposits in casinos was also not under purpose "vacation Matthias"
I think you just have a tit
Why do not you actually post under conspiracy theory?
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Small Tip: Instead of being deleted here for the 2190th time by the OC-glorifying gods from Malta - direct your energy vl. times to introduce this forum to the Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland, or Panorama, or other journalists. They have surely joy in it. Especially also at the interesting address in the imprint and who else resides there and what he offers
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So I can understand your anger at Twitch and the streamers, because I find that there is ACTIVE trying to recruit customers. And there is shit on whether and how many minors are watching. On Twitch young lives are ruined and not in any Internet forums.
But this is a forum where you have the opportunity to support the operators of the site by signing up through the links in the respective casinos. (I would never do this, because I don't want others to earn money from my "downfall". The same goes for the links among the streamers on Twitch! If people want to do that, everyone is free to do so)
I can not imagine that anyone here is driven to ruin by anyone. I was namely long before game addicted when I became aware of the page here.
Let your frustration out on Twitch rather than here... The people who look here are usually already in the game addiction trap.
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there you can see how harmful drugs CAN be.... if you mix them with turpentine^^
THEREFORE dear kiddies fingers away
and otherwise there is only one:
#All for the dachshund, all for the club#
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(**) Edit: This user is a double account of an already banned user - therefore the ban was justified.
I address this reply to the banned user personally in the hope that this will help him and similar minded people to change their negative mindset. In my opinion, anyone with such a mindset has little chance of permanently getting a grip on their Gambling addiction or other psychological problems. I speak from my own experience.
The people from here have not financed anything - at least not directly. Our platform was, is and remains completely free for the users. No one will ever receive a payment request or an invoice from us for using our platform. In fact, the opposite is true: whoever participates here is occasionally and with a little luck rewarded with a Paysafecard for free use.
The PSC's are not given out for a good conscience, but out of gratitude. We don't need to have a guilty conscience for this portal - why should we? We are the only ones (I don't know if we are still the only ones) or the first ones to operate a portal of this kind and to provide comprehensive and unsparing information about gambling. The users have their say here and can verbally defend themselves against unfair providers in the form of forum posts or ratings. And yes, negative reviews are also allowed and compensated. And sometimes even positive reviews are not allowed if, for example, they simply say: "I won, so the casino is good".
And we very rarely laugh at our users and for users like you we or I rather feel pity. The latter is not meant pejoratively, I had a time in which I was similarly knitted but over the years it has changed. And the more my mindset changed, the more success and satisfaction I could achieve. And that in ALL areas of life. Be it with women, be it with business or be it with various mental ailments.
We offer a platform where users can positively influence the market. Of course, this does not happen overnight, but we see overall success and some casinos have changed their bad business practices. Positive examples are Lapalingo and Platincasino.
For what are we celebrated? For driving people to ruin. But the writer is so bad that he can't do anything. But we can still drive people to ruin with it. So somehow I don't understand the logic behind it.
And why are we driving people to ruin?
I'm going to ask you a few questions, and I'd like you to answer them for yourself:
1. Who is to blame when an adult, responsible person drives himself to ruin with gambling? Is it really us? Or maybe the person himself?
2. If the person who ruins himself is addicted to gambling and knows about it, why does he blame an information website like GambleJoe or the casinos? Wouldn't it be better to recognize his gambling addiction and take serious action against it? I mean, the addiction is there and blaming others and bitter hatred of others won't change that fact, will it?
3. Is the person thinking altruistically and wants to spare others the same fate? What makes him think that he has found the right measures? And how does the person come to the conclusion that he can effectively help others, if he is currently still a victim of himself?
4. Wouldn't it make more sense to invest this energy in one's own recovery and later help others from a stable position and with a positive mindset?
5. Why does the person want GambleJoe to disappear? What would then change for himself or others? Aren't there thousands of other websites that would then take GambleJoe's place in Google? What do similar websites do better than us in terms of education?
6. Does the person want online gambling to be banned? What will change if everyone can continue to gamble in gambling houses or in any bar and lose 1,000€ every day?
7. Doesn't he think that in case of a ban the really bad guys are already waiting for that day? Doesn't he think that in the age of "anonymous" cryptocurrencies and worldwide networking, it would be easy for organized crime to circumvent this ban?
8. Does the person really think that bans on purely digital products can be effective in the digital age?
9. Are there gamers who are not addicted? If so, why should they be banned from having fun / enjoying the hobby?
10. Which gamers would comply / be able to comply with a ban? The normal players or the addicted players?
11. Which casino operators would abide by the ban? The good and reputable operators or the bad guys?
12. Where do most people get addicted. Where does the first contact with gambling take place in most cases? In Online Casinos or rather in pubs, snack bars, gas stations, etc. where often the age of the players is not so closely observed?
12. Who benefits from an online gambling ban? The addicts, the young people or rather those who hold the de facto monopoly on gambling in Germany, i.e. the state itself, Novomatic and Gauselmann? Who will get rid of the unpleasant and better competition?
If I answer these questions for myself, I come to the conclusion that banning online gambling would not help those who should be helped. The hobby gamblers will no longer have a hobby, the youth and Player protection will not get better and the addicted and the really criminal ones, however, will always find a way. That's how it is with drugs, and it would be even more so with purely digital products.
Since the Risk of addiction in gambling is high, regulation is needed - but not over-regulation. When it comes to player protection, all that is needed is minimal regulation, which ensures that players who no longer want to gamble can exclude or limit themselves. No more and no less. However, a person affected must recognize his own addiction and have himself barred. Some personal responsibility must be expected. Self-responsibility and self-reflection are anyway the minimum requirements that one must fulfill or learn. In my opinion, without these skills, you will not be able to get a grip on your addiction.
The world is a big place and if you want to give up your responsibility and be happy with it, you can emigrate to North Korea, for example. Germany and Europe are unfortunately developing more and more in this direction
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Oh Oh...daring assertion!
Similar to when a sniper says: "Not I or my gun kill - only the bullet kills."
The saying also has something of "abdicating responsibility"....
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I don't want to defend anyone, but I think GJ can't be accused of "censorship". There are also many scathing reviews. If I would read such as an information seeker, then I would think 3 times whether I register there. And these ratings are not deleted or something.
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