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supermode

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Chance of winning reduced if you are in the plus?

18th Feb. 2020, at 12:27 pm CET#1

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Hello,

first of all I don't want to start a Streamer discussion whether you think it's good or bad, because that's not what my thread is about

I have uploaded an excerpt from a small thesis that I saw yesterday in the stream and find the topic actually quite interesting and somehow it sounds plausible. It's about the fact that the streamer Knossi has now also like many others a dry spell and has not landed a hit since 8 streams, that is, at the end of Dec. beginning of Jan. it went off and he has fallen from 24000€ to 8000€. In the excerpt from the stream Kim Dotcom tells of the fact that he once worked at a large Provider with his former company as a security consultant and thus has a little more insight into the algorithm of the providers. It is about the fact that the data of one is stored and if one is with a provider (not the OC itself) in the plus one first loses a while. You can take a look at the excerpt and then write your opinion about it.

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18th Feb. 2020, at 01:05 pm CET#2

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supermode wrote on 02/18/2020 at 12:27 pm: Hello,

first of all I don't want to start a Streamer discussion if you think it's good or bad, because that's not what my thread is about

I have uploaded an excerpt of a small thesis that I saw yesterday in the stream and find the topic actually quite interesting and somehow it sounds plausible. It's about the fact that the streamer Knossi has now also like many others a dry spell and has not landed a hit since 8 streams, that is, at the end of Dec. beginning of Jan. it went off and he has fallen from 24000€ to 8000€. In the excerpt from the stream Kim Dotcom tells of the fact that he once worked at a large Provider with his former company as a security consultant and thus has a little more insight into the algorithm of the providers. It is about the fact that the data of one is stored and if one is with a provider (not the OC itself) in the plus one first loses a while. You can take a look at the excerpt and then write your opinion about it.

Interesting interview, but the way he presents it, I think it's unlikely to impossible - except maybe you play in only one OC.
The reason for this is simple: You can register in every OC with different metadata; i.e. mail, payment method, maybe you even have umlauts in your name and address and can modify the corresponding ones, then you might accidentally click on your date of birth, etc.

Session-based this might be an option, on a long-run never.
You could also simply test this by having the OC send you the personal data and its processing according to GDPR. At the latest, you should see whether and what data is sent to the provider.

Honestly: for someone who knows how this works, he seemed extremely insecure in some passages. For me, this was more of a talk show and entertainment interview than a really meaningful one. Too short, too much simply cut off without even mentioning a few facts

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18th Feb. 2020, at 01:09 pm CET#3

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I do not know to what extent you can conclude from one Provider to all and whether Kim is telling the truth, but at least the issue with the multi-accounts and same IP in the terms and conditions would fit (if you <Lösung>still listen to</Lösung> his <Lösung>at the end).

To find out something like that would be the task of the MGA, UKGC, Gibraltar license, etc. but ... they will probably not look at that. If that would prove true, the gambling industry would not be destroyed, but there would be massive criticism and the controls would have to be tightened.</Lösung>

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MarcT22186

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18th Feb. 2020, at 01:23 pm CET#4

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Kleinkariert wrote on 18.02.2020 at 13:09: I do not know to what extent you can conclude from one Provider to all and whether Kim tells the truth, but at least the issue with the multi-accounts and same IP in the terms and conditions would fit (if you <Lösung>still listen to</Lösung> his <Lösung>at the end).

To find out something like that would be the task of the MGA, UKGC, Gibraltar license, etc. but ... they will probably not look at that. If that would prove true, the gambling industry would not be destroyed, but there would be massive criticism and the controls would have to be tightened.

The UKGC would, I think
But the IP is usually dynamic, so it would be gone the next day at the latest.
Multi-accounts..., well, just play in parallel on different casinos. Then you are already effectively running multi at provider level</Lösung>

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18th Feb. 2020, at 01:24 pm CET#5

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are people not seriously believing a theory from KimDotcom?
what he says may sound plausible, but it still doesn't make it any truer.

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18th Feb. 2020, at 01:33 pm CET#6

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MarcT22186 wrote on 18.02.2020 at 13:05
Interesting interview, but the way he presents it I think it's unlikely to impossible - unless maybe you play in only one OC.
The reason for this is simple: You can register in every OC with different metadata; i.e. mail, payment method, maybe you even have umlauts in your name and address and can modify the corresponding ones, then you might accidentally click on your date of birth, etc.

Session-based this might be an option, on a long-run never.
You could also simply test this by having the OC send you the personal data and its processing according to GDPR. At the latest, you should see whether and what data is sent to the provider.

Honestly: for someone who knows how this works, he seemed extremely insecure in some passages. For me, this was more of a talk show and entertainment interview than a really meaningful one. Too short, too much simply cut off without even mentioning a few facts.

Why shouldn't it work like that? Leave something out, or change something in the name/address or something else,

there are big problems at the latest with the payout. Not for nothing they pay attention to it.
Technically possible without problems, because your name is linked to an account / credit card. So they always have your real
Name. Changing your name is therefore useless. So with cheat there is not much!

It has always been my theory, because I always had a loss stretch with big wins, which stretched over several months
pulled, no matter which casino and provider. Why should not be stored with the providers, and win nothing more?

Of course there are no facts? Gabs with VW facts? Everyone denied it. And although so many people were privy to this "secret
were privy to this "secret", nothing leaked out. So it is quite possible!

Casinos leave nothing to chance, otherwise you and others might just win over a long period of time, thus causing serious problems for at least some of the
Casinos before serious problems place. This is of course hedged against. It's all completely plausible.
And yes, I was so consistent, and stopped. Precisely because of such considerations.

And the MGA and Co. either know it, or overlook it, or don't even want to know. If they are not even bribed.

And really many tell that or have felt it on their own bodies, that after a big win nothing more goes.
I even had several big wins in a row, and only then a dry spell started for months. The
The win was gone, and I had to add to it. And that is no imagination, but fact.

And if then some come, and tell what about RTP, coincidence or other, they either think all players are stupid, or think the
for stupid, or think, they are so addicted and believe that.

You can continue to sink your money with the providers, I have long ago drawn my conclusions.
Of course, it's difficult when you're addicted, then you talk yourself the world beautiful. I know that.
But at some point it clicks!

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18th Feb. 2020, at 02:01 pm CET#7

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MarcT22186 wrote on 02/18/2020 at 1:23 pm
The UKGC would, I think
But the IP is usually dynamic, so it would be gone the next day at the latest.
Multi-accounts..., well, just play in parallel on different casinos. Then you are already effectively running multi at Provider level.

Why should it be stored under the IP, and not under name and address? There are umpteen possibilities,

to recognize someone.

@Begbie Of course the truthfulness of Kim is questionable. On the other hand I believe him that he had
Had insights that are denied to a mere mortal.

It also fits that all OC keep everything secret.
Why are no reasonable statistics published by anyone?
Slot A: Sum of all deposits X; Sum of all payouts X.
Why don't they do that, why do they let the speculations grow to infinity and accept that
that players turn away? Is it because there is really something wrong with it?

If everything was flawless and I had a casino, I would publish everything every year.
If I don't, I have something to hide.

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18th Feb. 2020, at 02:27 pm CET#8

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startpage wrote on 02/18/2020 at 14:01 PM

@Begbie Of course the truthfulness of Kim is questionable. On the other hand, I believe him that he had
Had insights that are denied to a mere mortal.

It also fits that all OC keep everything secret.
Why are no reasonable statistics published by anyone?
Slot A: Sum of all deposits X; Sum of all payouts X.
Why don't they do that, why do they let the speculations grow to infinity and accept that
that players turn away? Is it because there is really something wrong with it?

Kim" Dot Com" is unfortunately not a credible witness. Anyone who has spent even a minute with this gentleman's curriculum vitae knows that Mr. Com is prone to lies, deceit and excessive self-importance.

Why don't casinos or providers publish their numbers? For the same reason that pig farms don't live stream their production methods 24 hours a day. Because they don't have to. The customer buys and eats anyway.

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18th Feb. 2020, at 02:45 pm CET#9

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My buddy and I have played at the same time each a different account a game where I always went in and my buddy played the first time the game.He won a lot of money had a free game after the other and I was not, with me only the money was eaten.May be it was coincidence, but it was really strange.

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18th Feb. 2020, at 02:48 pm CET#10

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Channel Punch wrote on 02/18/2020 at 2:27 PM
"Kim" "Dot Com" is unfortunately not a credible witness. Anyone who studies this gentleman's resume for even a minute knows that Mr. Com is prone to lies, deceit and immoderate hubris.

Why don't casinos or providers publish their numbers? For the same reason that pig farms don't live stream their production methods 24 hours a day. Because they don't have to. The customer buys and eats anyway.

You're right about that. Nevertheless, his statement is in line with many experiences and even sounds plausible.

Therefore one should not dismiss it
as garbage. I am quite familiar with Kim and his machinations.
One should also deal with such things, rather than always sitting in good faith in front of the screen
in front of the screen. After all, it's about our money. And if you want to lose, then at least be fair.

Nevertheless, a balance sheet, as it is required annually in Germany for corporations, for example, could put an end to all the speculation
Put an end to all the speculation. But it is not done, and the question is why....
One could break everything down to the last detail. But all casinos are left alone. Except for fines
due to youth protection as well as lack of money laundering control never heard what.

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