Conspiracy theories: Casino Streamer Fake money or Real? (Page 6)

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Latino wrote on 09/26/2020 at 21:04: @wettibernd

Who is Hater and why ? I hope you don't put Haten equal with critical inquiry....

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Chrizzi wrote on 09/27/2020 at 03:28 PM
@Latino

No. Why would I equate that with critical inquiry?

You do look very closely what the topic "streamer" is concerned
That's why I would call you a critic
I don't want to explain it to you and I think you understand how it was meant.

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I was expecting this reaction

Also, I'm not the one who has to explain a business model to you just because you don't understand it.

But yes I know, it would be so exciting to know how much you can earn and how much who gets for what.

How much better can the deals be, depending on the range, etc.? All super exciting. A Streamer should disclose that too right?

The pizza maker should also always state the purchase price of his pizza on the menu. Don't be angry with me, but some things don't have to be understood by everyone.

Even if I would show it to you live, you could claim that the money is put to me on Skrill etc.
Ultimately, the only way you will be left is to believe something or not. That decision is up to you
You asked for it. I have complied with the request and your opinion is: Could also be all fake. Ah yes, why did you want to see something like that? It does not matter. Do not answer.

For me this is the last post in this adventurous forum. I am not accountable and have participated to show how we proceed and how I act. I would love to show you my transparency with this, however I don't think I could ever convince people like you of that. I have neither the time nor the leisure to do so. You are welcome to form your own opinion from the things I have presented. In the end, though, I would recommend my stream to you.

On the subject with the balance. I had this. For each casino individually, the deposits and withdrawals. After we have been after more than 6 months streaming about 25tsd euros in plus, I have banned this table from the stream. This gives the not so slot-savvy viewer the impression that you can win in the casino in the long run. Such a list is more than counterproductive at the moment, because many would not understand that with pure raw deposits this result would probably have looked different. Therefore I try to work with verbal hints in my streams. I think every streamer may think about his own concept to deal with it and does not have to comply with your default.

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Hello Latino,

since you seem to know me, feel free to tell me your name on Twitch. I generally don't think much of this justification babble. As you have already aptly stated, you can prove nothing anyway. But since you asked me so sweetly, here's my opinion

I for one stream on Twitch on the side and have a real job (greetings from the office). I started without any Affiliate links in the beginning and became aware of this business through tips from several viewers. I now have some links under my stream, but I don't actively promote them (an automated chat message with a link comes every 15 minutes). Otherwise, my stream is rather less a 24/7 advertising show. If I'm lucky (which happens very rarely), I get 100€ in a month as affiliate income. The money then flows back into the casinos. But that was also the background for the affiliate links. So to speak a partial financing for the streams, because in the casinos themselves there is hardly anything to get. I myself have never considered it important to have to prove anything to anyone. So I would never make any payment history or the like public, just because some stranger from the Internet does not believe me. However, I think that if the credibility of your stream is important for getting your "salary" at the end of the month, you have a lot more pressure. As the saying goes, hit dogs bark.

About "the" new business on Twitch:

What's been happening in the casino space on Twitch over the past few months is just disgusting. On every channel there are now entire teams that divide up the streaming times or just represent the model of purchased streamers already mentioned here in the article, so that the whole thing is also 200% profitable. Someone who plays for fun in the casino and shares this with others, does not need employees or anything else. It's 95% of the streams only about the big money. And so they sit in front of the camera with their viewerbots, bought hosts, bought followers and employees and turn on 5€ or more. There will probably also be people who like to watch something like that, I will probably never understand. But as they say, tastes are different. I for my part have already considered several times to stop streaming because of this scene.

Casino-Affiliate:

I'm a small streamer myself, started on YouTube back in the day and then moved on to Twitch. I now have about 1,250 followers and 20-30 viewers on average. Even with this relatively small reach, I can tell you that I was offered "Fakemoney" several times. I have the cooperation with these casinos then either not even started or immediately terminated (anyone who knows something, knows which casinos it could be so). There are of course reputable partners, but of course I can only say from my perspective. The bigger a stream and the more wins it brings, the greater the Risk of being offered dubious things. In the 2 years that I now have affiliate links under my stream, there were really many awesome and a*******te things I could tell you about. But it doesn't have to be all publicly spread. Ultimately, everyone with a little sense in the head, many things can explain themselves.

Regulation and morality:

For many areas of streaming and the internet in general, safe and mandatory age Verification would not be a bad idea. I am absolutely not a fan of getting minors interested in gambling. Furthermore, gambling should not be trivialized or glorified either. Unfortunately, that often happens. For sure, there are ways to make streams accessible to an adult audience only. But maybe there's just too much money involved. From the moral point of view, any advertising for areas that can very quickly trigger an addiction is probably dangerous. For a gambling addict, just watching a casino stream can certainly trigger an impulse to become active again. However, I also think that an adult person has to deal with such things on his own. All those from this forum who condemn casino streamers with affiliate links across the board should be aware of what platform they are moving on here.

Again specifically to your criticism @Latino:
1. With a 100-300 times win of his stake it's already ok to applaud. ;D
2. To criticize the used language I find a bit silly. I guess this just depends on taste
3. To condemn the creation of clips in general, I also do not find ok. A reminder in the form of a small video is nice.
4. I for my part play mostly on 0,40€ - 1,00€-fold, but find it absolutely ok if you thank for a sub or a donation, no matter how much

In all other points, however, I can agree with you 100% and find your post even the 3rd time read still very funny.

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I must confess that I don't really know you, but I have a good memory. Of course I can't stalk every Streamer, but I like to zap my way through the slot category - didn't you have a bear with disco lighting as your "FaceCam"? But this is also a good sign, it means that I have not seen any noticeable features for fake

But that's also probably the reason why you only earn a little pocket money - obviously you still have scruples, which can't be said of the majority of the industry. Thumbs up for that ! I wouldn't stop if I were you - if it's fun and you make some money, that's great.

What I do not understand here ( and this now only not related to you) - why no one speaks the names of these casinos ? There is no contract / no agreement that could be broken and why should this not be publicly spread? After all, these offer the breeding ground for the fake about which many Slotstreamer so rant.

The last sentence makes me think you understood that this is a parody of this scheme that you see in quite a few slot streams. But parodies are funny because they are based on reality. I realize that the "show" around it is also part of the concept, but it is exaggerated in many - to the point of implausibility.

A question out of curiosity :

Did you move to Malta ? This can be read out by skimming the VOD titles. I hope this question is not too personal for you (and does not need to be answered)

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Maybe you'll see each other live in the stream and then you're welcome to continue there.

Here in the forum, however, I do not want to condemn anyone or talk bad about any casinos that are advertised here.

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That's not likely to happen - I draw the entertainment value of slotstreamers from the robber pistols

Besides, I discuss exclusively on GambleJoe. I just saw how openly critics are treated in streams - they're made fun of, banned and then "Raus mit de Viecher" (original sound).

I meant of course in the stream and I also meant not only you, that you do not do this here I can of course understand. But every Streamer could - if he does not work with these casinos - openly call the name.

Therefore I wish you and your audience a lot of fun and especially good luck at the slots

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