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Conspiracy theories: Casino Streamer Fake money or Real? (Page 16)

Topic created on 23rd Aug. 2020 | Page: 16 of 20 | Answers: 191 | Views: 51,287
f****u
Latino wrote on 02/27/2022 at 12:06 pm: Okay, I took a look at the wallet payment flow. However, I limited this to February because of the amount of data.

Ahead
Trains Wallet in transaction network : https://imgur.com/a/53QbSXV
BTC transaction worth 1 million : https://imgur.com/ugberX3

Visualization : https://explorer.bitquery.io/bitcoin/address/3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2/graph
Who wants to look for himself -> set details to maximum

The first thing to notice is that within the transaction network several addresses start with "bc1q" which indicates subwallets of Stake.

Now I have tracked all deposits and without exception these Deposit wallets receive their money from one or more bc1q addresses,
i.e. from the Stake network. Example : https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/32VwkjFv34UbRK8cPW4upeYFSGadBxJneS

Here the wallet receives 32VwkjFv34UbRK8cPW4upeYFSGadBxJneS 14 Bitcoin from bc1qssqtw33x2g3ahyvejnss8vlg9v366ex8aurmq5 and sends 10 BTC of it immediately to 3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2 (i.e. TRains Wallet)
There are several of such transactions - however, all of these addresses receive the coins from the Stake network.
I have not found any deposits that could be private in nature (but I have also only tracked transactions over 1 BTC).

The 1 million he receives per month is traceably transferred from Stake to his player wallet. -> https://imgur.com/ugberX3
All other deposits can eventually be traced back to the address block starting with bc1q. External deposits could not be identified
In the end I would have had to find his private wallet with his "assets". This was not the case.
Therefore, I conclude that Train is not playing with his own money.

I would be happy if someone checks this again.

@Matthias

Yes, that's obviously how it is. The coins are posted from the Stakenetwork to his player account - at least that's how it looks in the transaction history of his wallet address.

As I said, if you want to have a look yourself -> https://explorer.bitquery.io/bitcoin/address/3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2/graph
and set details to maximum.


PS: Please do not be surprised if my answers need a few days. I hardly have time at the moment.

Cool written, especially there seems to be something behind it. I would have had zero idea about that.
Real respect, Latino!

However, confirms my opinion:
Streamers are with the biggest cheats and therefore figureheads of the casinos!

Why should they play with their own money, they would be nice stupid, as soon as you have created a certain
Range has created. So zero Risk and still coal from the casino in addition!

Claim and show can the much, the reality looks different!

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table1
Rookie

Latino wrote on 02/27/2022 at 12:06 PM: Okay, I took a look at the wallet payment flow. However, I limited this to February because of the amount of data.

Ahead
Trains Wallet in transaction network : https://imgur.com/a/53QbSXV
BTC transaction worth 1 million : https://imgur.com/ugberX3

Visualization : https://explorer.bitquery.io/bitcoin/address/3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2/graph
Who wants to look for himself -> set details to maximum

The first thing to notice is that within the transaction network several addresses start with "bc1q" which indicates subwallets of Stake.

Now I have tracked all deposits and without exception these Deposit wallets receive their money from one or more bc1q addresses,
i.e. from the Stake network. Example : https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/32VwkjFv34UbRK8cPW4upeYFSGadBxJneS

Here the wallet receives 32VwkjFv34UbRK8cPW4upeYFSGadBxJneS 14 Bitcoin from bc1qssqtw33x2g3ahyvejnss8vlg9v366ex8aurmq5 and sends 10 BTC of it immediately to 3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2 (i.e. TRains Wallet)
There are several of such transactions - however, all of these addresses receive the coins from the Stake network.
I have not found any deposits that could be private in nature (but I have also only tracked transactions over 1 BTC).

The 1 million he receives per month is traceably transferred from Stake to his player wallet. -> https://imgur.com/ugberX3
All other deposits can be traced back to the address block starting with bc1q. External deposits could not be identified
In the end I would have had to find his private wallet with his "assets". This was not the case.
Therefore, I conclude that Train is not playing with his own money.

I would be happy if someone checks this again.

@Matthias

Yes, that's obviously how it is. The coins are posted from the Stakenetwork to his player account - at least that's how it looks in the transaction history of his wallet address.

As I said, if you want to have a look yourself -> https://explorer.bitquery.io/bitcoin/address/3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2/graph
and set details to maximum.


PS: Please do not be surprised if my answers need a few days. I hardly have time at the moment.

WOW @Latino,

You have analyzed his transactions really very well and you are absolutely right. I have checked all this and your facts are 100% correct!
I am actually very surprised that there is no "external" deposit but at the same time it scares me how naive I could be to believe that he plays with even one of his own cents. I will continue to follow him but at least with the knowledge that he only receives the money from Stake and his giveaways you also like to take ,

Still, that's just the point that confuses me a bit
Train really does a giveaway every 1-3 months with REAL money. He likes to give away 1 million, 800k, 500k, etc... and then on Twitter a lot of users thank him for winning. This giveaway is done LIVE with a MooBot which means he can't fake it

Now the question arises for me, why is he doing this?
- He of course earns a lot of subs through such giveaways, but always stresses that you don't have to be a sub to win

- What does Stake gain from Train giving away money to people. Here you have to keep in mind that Train explicitly says you should post your Private Wallet and not Stake's, so you don't gamble away the money


Maybe this picture is still interesting for one or the other:
Here we can clearly see that he has started a partnership with Stake since March 26, 2021 (can be confirmed as far as it goes, since he didn't really stream slots before that, but only mentioned it privately again and again that he gambles).
Also, you can see that he has already turned over $2 billion with BTC. (Absolutely sick..... )

Full screen: https://i.ibb.co/cxt2bXZ/2022-02-27-23-38-08-Meine-Ablage-Google-Drive.png

table1

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f****u
But he's not lying at all. He is one of the few who does not lie, and presents everything transparently.
This is what happens when disciples believe everything

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Nik89
Experienced
fuyuyu wrote on 03/03/2022 at 12:38: But he is not lying at all. He's one of the few who doesn't lie, and lays everything out transparently.
This is what happens when disciples believe everything

I would also bet money that you are Tequiero. Newly registered and immediately continued as the penetrating person has stopped

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f****u

Nik89 wrote on 03/03/2022 at 12:48 PM
I would also bet money that you are Tequiero. Re-registered and immediately continued as the penetrating person left off.

Sure, and superman. I read through the text, imagine.

Excuse me for attacking your idol, since Lationo has convicted him of lying
lationo convicted him of lying. Has your world view collapsed now?

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table1
Rookie

fuyuyu wrote on 03/03/2022 at 12:38 pm: But he is not lying at all. He's one of the few who doesn't lie, and lays everything out transparently.
That's what happens when disciples believe everything you say

Reported you just in case, since you have similarities with "Tequiero"


That Train is lying somewhere is a guess for now, because the transactions currently reflect that, but you can't confirm yet if the transactions come from Stake or from Train himself. The fact is, he remains the most honest casino Streamer

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f****u

table1 wrote on 03/03/2022 at 13:22

Reported you just in case, since you have similarities with "Tequiero"


That Train is lying somewhere is a guess for now because the transactions currently reflect that but you can't confirm yet if the transactions are coming from Stake or from Train himself. The fact is, he remains the most honest casino streamer.

I don't think so. He is like all the others. Latino has that on

impressive way.

You are welcome to do so. All frustrated streamers do that when their idol is attacked.

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Nik89
Experienced
fuyuyu wrote on 03/03/2022 at 13:16

Sure, and superman. I read through the text, go figure.

Sorry for attacking your idol, since Lationo convicted him of lying
lationo convicted him of lying. Has your world view collapsed now?

I am not interested in streamers and this thread...

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f****u
-- User was banned as it appeared to be an already banned user --

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Latino
Experienced
@table1

From
I will continue to follow him but at least with the knowledge that he only gets the money from Stake

to
Fact is, he remains the most honest casino Streamer at the moment.

but it is quite a balancing act.



Today times at breakfast and a nice cup of coffee watched the train.
Around 9:30 he made a Deposit of 2.47 BTC and I think fine, just check.
And yes, this sum was deposited .... from the wallet bc1qssfde52qter9s2z5kmrseef5x9n0aq8pe4vzvs .....*cough*bc1q*cough ->see https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2
Let's see where the money came from then, so bc1qssfde52qter9s2z5kmrseef5x9n0aq8pe4vzvs typed into the Blockchain Explorer.
Great, only 2 transactions, besides the fees 2.04 BTC came from the address 3QzhXRBvZuKcj8Aoa9v6cN9WgeXKgjxWT2 .... uh uh...so from Trains player wallet

Around 11:15 / timestamp 39:45 in the VOD there was a deposit of ~$604000, which equals 15.4 BTC at the timez of the transaction
And now it gets exciting, because this "deposit" does not show up in the Blockchain Explorer and thus never took place.

Timestamp 40:19 another deposit of ~400000$ is also not visible in the blockchain.


Funnily enough, Train's player wallet consistently shows a balance of 25.27 BTC the whole time.
However, in the stream he played you to 0 several times.
It's like playing in demo mode.

Questions about questions but if it runs like a duck and quacks like a duck...
But everyone is allowed to form his own opinion or define his concept of "honesty".

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