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Betsson manipulates slots.
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There must be a reason why you defend OCs so vehemently. Either you are on the rumpus, have somehow business to do with OCs or you duck before the supposed "authorities".
Understand the difference between facts and non-facts.
If you are convinced of something, but can't prove it, but only provide circumstantial evidence, you don't present it as fact.
If you don't know something like you do, but present it as a fact, that is unserious and childish.
Nothing of what you write is verified in any way.
You don't even bring up arguments.
Instead, you try to make others look like idiots and humiliate them, all without any argument.
Come over with your own thoughts and arguments, preferably without parroting GambleJoe.
What makes you think that no OC is cheating?
Where are your proofs or even arguments?
Your naivety or even deliberate misleading seems boundless.
Maybe you should grow up and refrain from saying that others are "whining". We are not in kindergarten here.
As long as you bring absolutely nothing verified, argumentative, adult and serious, we have no basis for a reasonable discussion.
I kind of have you in mind now as an 8 year old making a long nose and shouting "howl, howl".
Completely silly, not my level.
Julian, we have already discussed the term "conspiracy theory" in another thread with Daniel.
Unfortunately you ignore that OCs have already been closed because of fraud, that reputable sites warn against fraud in Online Casinos, that gambling houses have already been raided and closed because of fraud and that the MGA is hardly clean.
Why are you doing this?
What is it about this unwavering loyalty that makes you wipe away all criticism with a wave of your hand and pretend that fraud is not possible and that people who believe that are not quite right?
How come you put a halo on OCs, although there have already been closures because of fraud?
Above all, you are actually referring to all OCs. You don't even take into account that at least in some of them things could go wrong.
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small note: not always so often admonishments express (see strkie)
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I'll share my experience. Started with Betsson in 2008, at that time the casino was doing
great. You won often, really nice wins x 100-150 not uncommon. Also other
Players, one had seen in the ad had nice wins. Sure there were also losers.
Then in 2011 or 2012 the casino layout was completely changed. ( Similar to currently at Tipico with
Casino old and new ).
Since then I have never won again at Betsson. Either everything was eaten immediately or you
plays a while +- but with x20 you already have a fat win
Have now for 2 years completely stopped at Betsson and due to the betting tax there also no
Sports betting more
p.s. Nordicbet belongs to Betsson, there the slots are also completely cold
Sometimes I have the feeling, they let players with German IP lose, while Swedes are preferred
are preferred. Especially the jackpots all go to Sweden
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There were also already some Resturants closed because they had it not so with the health regulation. Desto trotz there are also still decent Resturants.
There are black sheep in every industry, and even more so in the casino world. A big reason why Daniel from Gamblejoe has built this portal in the first place.
Of course there is a mass of dubious casinos (see the majority of Curacao casinos) or all the Russian gambling sites where they plagiarize certain slots almost 1:1.
But would it be fair to say that every online casino is doing these practices? Or is there any evidence for that?
We are not wiping away criticism or pretending that cheating is not possible. Otherwise we would not even allow these discussions and would directly censor and delete everything.
We want to deal with the users honestly and at the same time give them the feeling that they can express themselves here without restrictions (unless they start to insult each other).
It is perfectly okay to be skeptical and to exchange a few theories with each other
It becomes dangerous only if some users mean these theories as "solid" to call and these experiences or conspiracy theories also still at other people to want to force possibly another opinion possess. And these also do not let rest on it but to go off correctly penetrantly on these users like in your contribution above.
Also I don't understand how you can throw upola for example the words "naivety" or generally something like "facts and non-facts" to the head although you yourself can deliver no real evidence what this topic concerns.
All these discussions are just subjective and reminds me somehow of all the religious fanatics who want to force their beliefs on other people, or criticize them in every way because they do not agree with their own way of life.
@MisterL
Small remark to your comment: If the users would not constantly provoke or insult each other, there would be no admonition
Edit: And I ask you all therefore times a gear down and objectively discuss with each other without becoming personal.
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I think that arcades can now compete with OCs when it comes to entertainment. Payout is always instant there, you can take it right away - no bonus problems because there is no bonus. And you can switch machines if you think one isn't doing so well - as it still makes a difference offline (because machines have loss/win limits). You rarely come out with a high win, but I have the feeling that you are more likely to be entertained with little money than online where it always seems to me - when the servers lagging is almost no longer won.
Playn Go always small mini-wins (4 to 20 cents always came in between), then it has funny lagged and the balls are just sprinted down and that teilweies 50 spins without a win. Can be of course something conspiracy, but I have avoided playing at that time with such problems, because it was the same three times - besides, it makes so also less fun. I have always believed that there is no Manipulation and that everything is always done correctly, but I am now of a different opinion. Do not have to be the OCs, can also be the game manufacturers - who turn it up and down the average although 96% RTP come out - but that for a short time the RTP is eg only 55% and an hour for a few minutes 120%. Sure all speculation, but how much insight do we have there? The MGA does not seem to have the greatest interest in fairness, the rules of the game determine the OCs for the most part and if you write the MGA refer to its terms and conditions in which everything may stand.
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but who knows how the birds divide the market one crow doesn't peck out the other eye
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Um, so comparing the finding of inconsistencies when playing in OCs with religious fanatics is already a strong piece. Again, that's just aimed at labeling those who don't trust most OCs as idiots.
And that's exactly what I was talking about.
Experiences and experiences in casinos have nothing and again nothing to do with religious fanaticism
Fanaticism, conformity and following do not result from critical thinking, but from docility and naivety, which fade out all indications of reality.
That is the only reason why there are religious fanatics.
I have answered Upola in such a way, because he constantly picks out people whom he calls bananas, however, without even a single argument.
If he would make some arguments, it would be possible to have a reasonable discussion, because then there would be an exchange.
Without arguments he just slams something and attacks people. Ad hominem is simply no basis for a debate in the long run.
Insinuations that you would find every OC but immediately great again if you win, are also part of it.
In the end, it's always just about portraying critics as untrustworthy.
The question is, why?
I have also never claimed that my critical statements are all fact. Exactly that is the point. Why don't you tell that to Upola and others who don't know any facts and never make arguments?
That is why I explained the difference between conviction based on circumstantial evidence and facts.
I have described experiences that others have also experienced and have not portrayed anyone as an idiot or crank who is convinced of the honesty or seriousness of the OCs.
Conversely, however, critics here have to put up with a lot.
In this way, one tempts others to continue gambling away their money without being critical themselves.
By the way, as already written several times, it is by no means about every OC. This also comes up again and again from some.
When you call for objectivity, that's exactly what I call for. This also includes not comparing critics of OCs with religious fanatics.
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The comparison is based on the fact that one tries under all circumstances to convince the opponent of his own view or way of life.
Without showing respect or understanding and you seem to resort to all means and even become personal and start to provoke and insult the opponent instead of simply remain objective.
Yes, I myself find the comparison quite appropriate.
And yes you have described your experiences which is also completely okay, you have also expressed your Subjective opinion on this subject which is also completely okay.
But there are still millions of other players who share different experiences and opinions on this topic and the way you treat them here in the forum is simply not acceptable.
Also you have indicated that you also feel unfairly treated when any "critics" label you as an idiot as soon as you bring up such theories. But it's the same the other way around, as soon as someone says something against these theories or even just expresses his own opinion that you or someone else doesn't like, he is immediately labeled as a casino employee or as someone who has no idea and just "parrots Gamblejoe". Do you think that is fair? Is that the point of a normal discussion? If you can not respect other users for their opinion then you need not be surprised if they also bring no respect for your statements.
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