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Conspiracy theories: Betsson manipulates slots. (Page 2)

Topic created on 22nd Sep. 2018 | Page: 2 of 7 | Answers: 60 | Views: 14,037
K****t
In most cases they report their own experiences and write that they believe it or are convinced of it.
The deniers, on the other hand, write that OCs definitely do not cheat.

One is a belief, the other is an attempt to present something as fact without evidence.

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s****e
Above all, defend a thing that they have never seen in real life.
One should be skeptical about that.
In principle, something fictitious is being defended here. Nobody knows how the transmission
really works, whether casinos ultimately have an influence, etc.
But it is defended as if it were a matter of one's own life.

When I look at the terms and conditions alone, it is difficult for me to attest to a certain
to attest a certain honesty

In a way, it's like defending the Loch Ness Monster.
Never seen it, but parroting everything.

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Julian
Elite
stkrie wrote on 23/09/2018 at 15:55: Above all, defend a thing they have never seen real.
One should be eiegntlich skeptical.
Basically, what is being defended here is fictional. No one knows how the transmission
really works, whether casinos ultimately have an influence, etc.
But it is defended as if it were a matter of one's own life.

When I look at the terms and conditions alone, it is difficult for me to attest to a certain
to attest a certain honesty

In a way, it's like defending the Loch Ness Monster.
Never seen it, but parroting everything.

Well, some people can differentiate between "fraud", "manipulation" or just gambling.
The comparison with Loch Ness is in my eyes also misinterpreted, finally the people who believe in Manipulation are probably rather the people who assume something "fictitious".
Since there is no real evidence of manipulation. But it only conspiracy theories are (also like with Loch Ness).
Thus, in this case, the players who do not believe in a manipulation are probably the skeptics.

And that the Online Casinos refer so much to the terms and conditions or generally place a value on it is completely normal.
After all, they are not a welfare assembly but are in some ways service providers where every day probably several million euros are deposited and paid out.
And just by all the bonus promotions and the players who somehow always want to find a loophole to profit in some way (for example, create multiple accounts to get again free spins at Starburst) or other attempts to somehow cheat the casino (identity theft, etc.) they have to protect themselves legally.

Nowadays, this is something that simply cannot be ignored.
A few years ago there was a case where a woman in America bought a coffee at McDonalds and shortly after scalded her hand.
She then sued McDonalds, claiming that no one had pointed out to her that the coffee was hot.

There was also a case where someone sued Red Bull because he did not get wings after consumption as it was mentioned in the slogan of the company.
Even if in the example the companies could well afford the millions in damages, these are such trifles with which a company can protect itself just by the terms and conditions.

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s****e
well, in principle, the loch ness comparison is not wrong. nobody has ever seen an oc from the inside
no one knows how the technology works properly. but many people insist that
everything runs correctly. how do you come up with that? just when there are already problems with oc
because of money laundering and lack of supervision by politicians or mga.
how can you then think that everything is proceeding correctly?
i would at least be skeptical, no one has to be convinced.

onlinecasinos refer to agb, far in malta, where an intervention/complaint is simply
impossible. they are hiding on this island with the knowledge that nothing can happen
still the best conditions to make a few extra dollars.

by the way, i mean the standard terms and conditions of the market. i have never attracted attention with them. no matter where
and when i have e-mailed. i can rely on the fact that i will not be ripped off.
that's exactly what's different with oc. they speculate with it and take into account that money will be withheld
will be withheld
this has nothing to do with "normal" terms and conditions, and i don't like that this is defended.
everyone here knows what these are for!

but to be a proper online casino, i only have 20 million euro turnover per year, instead of 30
turnover per year. and that is not possible
such services are just not normal, especially since i can't even use the chat properly
i can't even use the chat properly without getting screwed again.

verification.... if i Deposit money, i would be laundering money, not when i
not when i make a payout for a win. that's complete nonsense. that's why it's also just an instrument
to rake in money, and has zero to do with security. strangely enough, anyone can deposit.

only with a deposit and immediate payout would it really make sense!

by the way, all terms and conditions in casinos are designed AGAINST the player!
has nothing to do with protection, in contrast to the usual terms and conditions, where it is at least
balanced!

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upola
Legend

Coffee light wrote on 09/23/2018 at 11:27 am: In most cases, they report their own experiences and write that they believe it or are convinced of it.
The deniers, on the other hand, write that OCs definitely do not cheat.

One is a belief, the other is an attempt to present something as fact without evidence.

Oh with you it is conviction...yes that is of course something else.

You can repeat it as often as you like, so it still becomes truer.

You must not only read, but also understand what you read, I do not see anything as a fact
You can be convinced as much as you want, you do not bring facts.
And as long as there is no evidence, I do not have to believe all the nonsense.

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upola
Legend
Anyone who deposits in the casino should be clear beforehand that he has no rights that can enforce.
No matter if the casino does not pay out or if the casino cheats.
Who does not get along with it, should not play and not cry here.
It may be nice if 5 others with howl, change that still does not.

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s****e
i have already answered you. yes, something changes when everyone stops.
i'm not just crying, i've borne the consequences and stopped!

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Julian
Elite
stkrie wrote on 23.09.2018 at 17:58: already answered you. but, something changes when everyone stops.
i'm not just crying, i've taken the consequences and stopped!

And nevertheless you are in a Zocker forum one of the most active members, or probably even the most active at present.
Not that it is something reprehensible, but I wonder to what extent you draw consequences or want to distance yourself from it.

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s****e
that's true, and as i've said before, the forum helps me not to gamble.
i also used to have my problems with payouts, and also gambled away a lot
gambled away. and this actually helps me

of course, in the end it is a matter of faith, if it really is like that, and i am aware of this paradox
aware of this paradox, but it really is.

i have imme gladly played with bonus, because i have always gambled so 1-2€.
but also often problems with the bonus-agb as well as the verifications.
besides, at some point a conclusion has to be made, because the life situation changes
changes, or it also goes more and more into the miesen.
i think everyone comes to that point sooner or later.
or even into private insolvency.
the few with mega profits now times left out!

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Anonym
upola wrote on 23.09.2018 at 17:44: Anyone who deposits in the casino should be aware beforehand that he has no rights that can enforce.
No matter if the casino does not pay out or if the casino cheats.
Who does not get along with it, should not play and not cry here.
It may be nice if 5 others with howl, change that still does not.


Simply book back, we can not enforce our rights and the casino also not. If one back-booked once, but you should be aware that it can affect the future. Therefore, it is not advisable to organize this with your own main bank, unless you have chargebacks in five to six figures. You can then also come to terms with this.

If you don't want the stress that comes along with it, you better stop a little earlier, I recommend it to everyone and try it myself. Online casino itself did not ruin me, High Volantility Slots ruined me - because I wanted to have "THE" Big Hit and shoveled in so much too much. When I used to play Low V. Slots the evening with 20 € went long and was exciting, since I know providers like Playn Go it has simply gone downhill with me - so that I no longer have any attraction to low risk.

Addendum: I do not want to advertise chargeback here! I don't think it's the right solution - but it's an option that should be mentioned.

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