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Conspiracy theories: Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

Topic created on 24th Jul. 2019 | Page: 1 of 12 | Answers: 113 | Views: 19,639
Anonym

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 01:10 am CEST#1
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I'll put the question to you like this

With "simply held" slots, I find that the question really comes up after a few years of playing.

For example, I love playing "Starmania" from NextGen. It comes back incredibly in the game itself. The bonus games are extremely meager for the most part (x10), but you have a chance at bigger wins. Today I deposited 50 euros and just wanted to Risk a bit. Played directly on 2.50 and received instant freespins. Came right times to 130 euros and increased to 5 euros per spin. I got the main symbol in a line. = 500 euros. Good I thought. Some wins followed directly after, until I was on almost 900 euros. After 10 minutes of play.

Now it behaves with the slot like this: If you Deposit bspw 100 euros and zockst on 0,50 per spin, you play over hours. to lose 100 euros with 0.50 there in an hour is almost impossible. You just get too much back and often every 3-5 minutes bonus games.

Well, I had 900 euros on it and let the thing times on 5 euros run. I had not even triggered a bonus game. And then it happened. Namely nothing. In just under an hour I received exactly 1 bonus game. That is, for this slot, a bankruptcy explanation. Also all possible attempts to change the stake led to no result. He pulled me down to 50 euros. After just 45 minutes. I then switched to Roulette and got 700 back for payout.

Now it's like this, I have experienced this more often in recent weeks. Play the slot like parallel in 2 casinos. If I get in casino 1 this 100x row in game, I get there over an enormously long period of time no more freespins. No matter if I reload or anything else. While in the other casino I permanently receive freespins and various smaller wins. The big difference: In Casino 1 (with the Big Win) my balance drops massively, while in Casino 2 the balance remains permanently stable

I've also had other runs, at Tipico I came in the slot once from 40 euros to an incredible 4000 euros. It's not like that. But just lately this happens to me extremely often and slowly I ask myself, could it be that the whole thing actually has to do with the connection to the game servers or with the respective account?


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Anonym

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 01:26 am CEST#2
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The problem is that we are all speculating and cannot prove it. If you were to claim something in another industry and point out irregularities, it might be checked

But since it is gambling, everyone will think you are a moron. How does your accusation sound? A sore loser who is bitter about his loss. Whether your concerns and criticisms are justified is of no interest to anyone.

What you describe and many other things like 'internal error' in slots are never investigated. There is no control authority. The only ones who crack down are the British and I have also resolved to play only in such Online Casinos that have been forced to punish by the British regulatory authority

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LuckyNoob
Rookie

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 02:45 am CEST#3
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Capriz is absolutely right. .all speculation, one has no counter-evidence.
Like the ancient aliens types, prove to me that on July 4, 1864, no ufo took off from under this church and flew into space.
Oh..., I can't. See, then that's how it will have been.
I've been gambling long enough to say this is not a fantasy.
Everything is recorded and after some feeding, used against you.
This is not a coincidence, but in the long run, always the same scheme.
If I take only the relevant casinos, where I have deposited at least 5 times, remains from 50 one, where I am in plus....and that only because I had a big win.
To experience always the same scheme with 250 deposits with 30 to 50 euros, is probably not a coincidence, but an indication that an algorithm runs through, which is to keep you happy.
We don't even need to talk about all the yt-S***ties.

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Anonym

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 07:57 am CEST#4
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With me it is often like this...
Assuming I pay in 50 euros and get to 100 euros, in 99% of the cases I don't get over these 100 euros.

I then fall back down to say 60 and should come freespins pay these so much that I'm about 100 again.

Then it goes downhill again. If freespins come again in any game, I usually come back to the 100 euros.
(Even if I have fallen from the 100 euros to say 2 euros balance)

It doesn't matter to me whether I get freespins on 20 cents or 1 euro... I can't exceed this limit and that often goes on for 2-3 hours.

These are already funny "coincidences" that occur so often that you can actually no longer use the word "coincidence".

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 08:30 am CEST#5
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The word 'coincidence' is already invalid, at least in my opinion, as soon as it falls in a sentence with the word 'programmed'.

Otherwise, someone should please explain to me how exactly one programs a random generator in such a way that the results which he throws out are not a result of this programming, but of the coincidence

That alone leads the assertion of a coincidental result nevertheless already ad absurdum.

In addition, the human being will always use all possibilities by nature, which are available, in order to secure the own 'survival' (evolution-technically seen of course, here "only" the profit maximization).

I am of the opinion that unbelievably detailed profiles of every single, online thankfully always and everywhere doubtlessly identifiable player, already provide for exactly the gameplay that brings (I don't want to say forces) every single one of us individually to behave the way the providers (across the board) would like us to.

No question, one does not have to behave accordingly, but since this takes place much more in the subconscious than we would like, it is more than just difficult to break these patterns, which is mMn necessary to win, or to keep wins instead of gambling away again

As an example of how well and precisely human behavior can be analyzed and predicted, one can mention the fact that Amazon in most cases knows before their customers when they are pregnant. And this is only due to an unconscious change in their buying behavior in the days and weeks immediately after conception...

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Stromberg
Legend

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 08:58 am CEST#6
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 07/24/2019 08:30: The word 'coincidence' is, at least in my opinion, already invalid as soon as it falls in a sentence with the word 'programmed'.

Otherwise, someone please explain to me how exactly you program a Random Number Generator so that the results it throws out are not a result of this programming, but of chance

That alone leads the assertion of a coincidental result nevertheless already ad absurdum.

In addition, the human being will always use all possibilities by nature, which are available, in order to secure the own 'survival' (evolution-technically seen of course, here "only" the profit maximization).

I am of the opinion that unbelievably detailed profiles of every single, online thankfully always and everywhere doubtlessly identifiable player, already provide for exactly the gameplay that brings (I don't want to say forces) every single one of us individually to behave the way the providers (across the board) would like us to.

No question, one does not have to behave accordingly, but since this takes place much more in the subconscious than we would like, it is more than just difficult to break these patterns, which is mMn necessary to win, or to keep wins instead of gambling away again

As an example of how well and precisely human behavior can be analyzed and predicted, one can mention the fact that Amazon in most cases knows before their customers when they are pregnant. And that's only because of an unconscious change in their buying behavior in the days and weeks immediately following conception...

Of course, the coincidence, even if the word might no longer be the right one, takes place within a predefined framework. But that is probably alternativlos with a software
Otherwise, you just have to use mechanical devices.

@capriz: the English control authorities certainly work well with regard to violations of Player protection, etc..
However, should it be possible to actually influence e.g. slots, from whatever side, then they would certainly have no knowledge of this and would then be able to do just as little as anyone else

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Anonym

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 09:13 am CEST#7
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Stromberg wrote on 07/24/2019 08:58
Clearly, the coincidence, even if the word would then perhaps no longer be the right one, plays out in a predetermined framework. But that is probably alternativlos with a software
Otherwise you just have to use mechanical devices.

@capriz: the English control authorities certainly work well with regard to violations of Player protection, etc..
However, should it be possible to actually influence e.g. slots, from whatever side, then they would certainly have no knowledge of this and would then be able to do just as little as anyone else.

You may be right, but I assume that the casinos with British license do not dare to put their existence at risk. If something like this comes out, they can close down right away

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 09:37 am CEST#8
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I have my doubts about the real influence of individual casinos. They certainly know more than we do, but that they have a lot of influence somehow doesn't make sense

I think if cheated, then on the big stage, from the side of the providers, in the. Overall. Hard to imagine that they provide their games and their more or less good reputation "at risk" (hahaha - issen Reißer, right?) by giving the casinos the opportunity to give extensive influence on the game mechanics of their titles.

I also think that the providers work together more than you think. Common interests make allies. The data is determined or exchanged across providers to optimize the profiles....

Of course, these are all just my abstruse thoughts and assumptions, you know, my hat has three corners and is made of aluminum....

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Liquid
Experienced

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 10:13 am CEST#9
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Young young always the same people and topics. Just because you're looking for someone to blame (iS a ReIsSeR wAs?) for your addiction

I recommend you to search for trancemonkey and his thread about "ask me anything about slots" and read it completely (at least his answers).

Or you can continue to believe that everything is in cahoots

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Zwischenmeister
Top Member

Are we all victims of account-based gaming?

24th Jul. 2019, at 11:19 am CEST#10
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Liquid wrote on 07/24/2019 10:13 AM:

 Just because you're looking for someone to blame (iS nEn ReIsSeR wAs?) for your addiction

Yes, heard it before, but for starters 👍

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