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Conspiracy theories: Are there casinos that almost never pay anything? (Page 9)

Topic created on 20th Jun. 2019 | Page: 9 of 11 | Answers: 109 | Views: 22,181
skyro
Experienced
Many people also do not understand the RTP, I do not blame everyone but 96% RTP does not mean that I put about 100€ and 96€ of it come back as winnings... if 100 people Deposit a 10ner and win nothing and then one comes and wins 1000€ then the slot has about a RTP of 100%... to enable the big wins it just needs a lot of feeding phases, it does not mean in any case that you get about 96% back over time, that is wishful thinking. I'm not saying that there is no Manipulation, but unfortunately this is speculation, no one can check it. Think otherwise seen but also that the big casinos make so much cash anyway that they have no need, but certainly the specified RTP rather not true.

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rainbow1
There is no company that earns enough, or does not want even more.
When will this finally get into the heads here!

And that's why there will always be fraud, because at some point on legal
Way everything is skimmed.

And if someone has a yacht, then he wants 2, and a helicopter in addition.

Always this stupid argument, the casinos earn enough......

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illmnzi
Rookie
skyro wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:02: Many people also do not understand the RTP, I do not blame everyone but 96% RTP does not mean that I put about 100€ and 96€ of it come back as wins.... if 100 people Deposit a 10 and win nothing and then one comes and wins 1000€ then the slot has about a RTP of 100%... to make the big wins possible it needs a lot of eating phases, it doesn't mean in any case that you get about 96% back over time, that's wishful thinking. I'm not saying that there is no Manipulation, but unfortunately this is speculation, no one can check it. Think otherwise seen but also that the big casinos make so much cash anyway that they have no need, but certainly the stated RTP rather not true.





Hi, no offense, but you don't understand RTP either

The RTP (according to MGA) is the average "payout" to a player (is not called return to players but to player) over a year (as a rule, the MGA can also specify a different period or number of spins for certain games).

Here I have already written in more detail:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/es-wird-langsam-lacherlich-95589/8/#p96005


Looking forward to someone from gamblejoe who may correct me.


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t****m wrote on 06/20/2019 12:28 PM
What a bunch of bullshit! You seem to believe everything the Cainos, MGA, etc. tell you
Software can always be manipulated. There are ways and means. They all work together.
A good example are cases of Manipulation by Novomatic in AT and Gauselmann in D.
Do you also believe in Santa Claus?

If I may say something, you have to look closely at the symbols when playing and remember, everything repeats in certain seconds minutes, a game must be studied, even the music tells you whether a free game comes or whether you turn a wolf, play slowly and study the games, there is no luck, it's just look correctly and remember.Many rattle down one spin after another and in no time the money is all.Remember, look, count every spin and remember the spin where a free spin comes and for example Spin 65 came 10 free spins in Book of Dead write down, and then after the 10 free spins count again and so on, and there are really days in the month where more free spins are brought into play, write down on which days and at what hour you have won. If you have won little in the free spins, you can spin a wolf afterwards and everything is gone.Go out and in 3-4 min. back into the game,and remember at what min. and sec. went in,and then count and look at the symbols properly.So

it is not a game of chance it is a game of skill.And of course the games can manipulate for an individual,I have seen it and remembered it.

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skyro
Experienced

illmnzi wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:38




Hi, no offense, but you don't understand RTP either

The RTP (according to MGA) is the average "payout" to a player (is not called return to players but to player) over a year (as a rule, the MGA can also specify a different period or number of spins for certain games).

Here I have already written in more detail:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/es-wird-langsam-lacherlich-95589/8/#p96005


Looking forward to someone from gamblejoe who may correct me.



the same applies to the period of a year... then it is just not different players but you yourself pay 100 times a 10er is eaten and once you win 1000€. comes down to the same, but I really thought that it is about multiple players, are you sure? But it comes down to the same as I said.

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illmnzi
Rookie
Herould wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:43

If I may say something,you have to look closely and remember the symbols when playing,everything repeats in certain seconds minutes,a game has to be studied,even the music tells you if a free game is coming or if you are wolfing......


Just no. Your thought processes are very disturbing...

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skyro
Experienced
Herould wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:43

If I may say something,you must look closely at the symbols when playing and remember,everything repeats in certain seconds minutes,a game must be studied,even the music tells you if a free spin comes or if you turn a wolf,play slowly and study the games,there is no luck,it's just look and remember correctly.Many rattle down one spin after another and in no time the money is all.Remember, look, count every spin and remember the spin where a free spin comes and for example Spin 65 came 10 free spins in Book of Dead write down, and then after the 10 free spins count again and so on, and there are really days in the month where more free spins are brought into play, write down on which days and at what hour you have won. If you have won little in the free spins, you can spin a wolf afterwards and everything is gone.Go out and in 3-4 min. back into the game,and remember at what min. and sec. went in,and then count and look at the symbols properly.So

it's not a game of chance it's a game of skill.And of course the games can manipulate for an individual,I've seen it and remembered it.

hehehe what are you talking about? Counting rounds until free spins come?? It doesn't matter at all, he can bring free spins every 10 rounds and pay 2x3 J... it's all about the payment in the games and BoD is really below average when I compare it to Book of Ra in arcades. In BoD it is really relatively rare that you get extensions

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illmnzi
Rookie
skyro wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:47

the same applies to the period of a year... then it's just not different players but you yourself pay in 100 times a 10er that is eaten and once you win 1000€. comes down to the same thing, but I really thought it was multiple players, are you sure? But it comes down to the same as I said.

I hope we are not talking past each other, but it is a difference if you are one of the winners or losers among all players of a specific Slot machine or if the MGA assures you that on average after one year of playing you can expect to get back 96% of your losses of the last 12 months (if you would have lost exclusively now). Or?

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skyro
Experienced
illmnzi wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:50
I hope we are not talking past each other, but there is a difference if you are one of the winners or losers among all players of a specific Slot machine or if the MGA assures you that on average after one year of playing you can expect to get back 96% of your losses of the last 12 months (if you would have lost exclusively now). Or?

well then we are back to the word average... it is a coincidence, think the value 96% can not be insured, because who knows how often and how long you play a slot in the year? If you play BoD for an hour today and lose 100€ and don't play again this year, who should "insure" you 96%?

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chriss1808
Experienced
Herould wrote on 09.01.2020 at 00:43

If I may say something,you must look closely at the symbols when playing and remember,everything repeats in certain seconds minutes,a game must be studied,even the music tells you if a free spin comes or if you turn a wolf,play slowly and study the games,there is no luck,it's just look and remember correctly.Many rattle down one spin after another and in no time the money is all.Remember, look, count every spin and remember the spin where a free spin comes and for example Spin 65 came 10 free spins in Book of Dead write down, and then after the 10 free spins count again and so on, and there are really days in the month where more free spins are brought into play, write down on which days and at what hour you have won. If you have won little in the free spins, you can spin a wolf afterwards and everything is gone.Go out and in 3-4 min. back into the game,and remember at what min. and sec. went in,and then count and look at the symbols properly.So

it is not a game of chance it is a game of skill.and of course the games can manipulate for an individual,I have seen it and remembered it.

no offense but i think you need a job or a wife or even better both

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