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Other Casino games: That's it for casinos and streamers (Page 3)

Topic created on 07th Oct. 2018 | Page: 3 of 33 | Answers: 327 | Views: 86,156
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Elite

That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 01:58 pm CEST#21
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It looks like crap. I mean it's clear that random generators have a tendency to spit out certain results more often than others. And if a slot grants you a certain X-factor then there are certain combinations that occur more often than others. It is not excluded that this is a coincidence due to the programming, but it is too unlikely for me. Much more realistic is that all these big streamers that are basically nothing more than advertising for OCs are fooling their audience. In my opinion, says nothing about the chances of winning a private small gambler, but is quite clear that in the case of advertising is cheated. As just everywhere with the advertising is cheated

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Emx81
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That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 01:59 pm CEST#22
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Awesome......
If they were regulated here in the eu and properly controlled, i.e. also look at the source code, there would be no such thing.
Is there even a Provider who has published its source code?

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Anonym

That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 03:41 pm CEST#23
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The probability of 1 in 1.3 million for the event stated by the Provider is, soberly considered, not even that high. A six in the lottery is 50 times less likely and still happens almost every week. The story gets its nasty taint from the fact that it was two players who explicitly advertised for casinos and conned people into gambling. As Emx81 rightly says: In the end, only uniform regulation and code audits will help. Whether this story will make waves in the gambling scene? Maybe in the short term. In the long term, the casions will continue to make a profit as usual, because regulation is still a long way off and a large part of their clientele consists of addicts who can't and won't stop even if they know about the fraud.

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Anonym

That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 03:58 pm CEST#24
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1 to 1.3 million is not so violent, with Euromillions are it nevertheless 1 to 90 million and there wins also constantly who, often even 2 times in the week, since Tuesday and Friday draws are.
That here however for advertising purposes a good, possibly stored, result is called up can be however then it would be already very stupid of push and Videoslots to use two times exactly the same.

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K****t

That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 04:12 pm CEST#25
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Unbeliver wrote on 07/10/2018 at 15:58: 1 to 1.3 million is not so violent, at Euromillions it is after all 1 to 90 million and there is also constantly who wins, often even 2 times a week, because Tuesday and Friday draws are.

Seen in relation to the participants, that seems quite different.

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Anonym

That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 04:16 pm CEST#26
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Coffee light wrote on 07/10/2018 at 16:12
Seen in relation to the participants, it already seems quite different.

Well, with 100,000den spins and more a day, also not few participants seen on a week, Sure Euromillionen but has more participants. But the win at Euromillions is 10,000 times higher than seen here. But I just wanted to put the probability a little in relation...

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T0uchTheSky
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That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 06:13 pm CEST#27
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Posted the 2 videos I posted on the 1st page to the Youtuber of the 1st video from the TE and he edited that together




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Tropper
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That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 06:37 pm CEST#28
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 07/10/2018 at 18:13

Posted the 2 videos I posted on the 1st page to the Youtuber of the 1st video from the TE and he edited that together





Full nice the youtuber, thanks for the video and super observation of you.

I'm really interested in the opinion of Gamblejoe.

Thereby, it is no wonder if there are so awesome dry spells with us normal gamblers. Through the images can be quite targeted the win and the riveting images to the players which through the account and the IP address and whatever, control. For me, this is no longer a coincidence but quite clear fraud! PUSH GAMING SHAME ON YOU, I hope the image damage will be immense as with RWE, that you finally go bankrupt. Sell your souls to the devil, as well as the other providers... transparency? Quite clearly 0.00000

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D****p

That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 06:57 pm CEST#29
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It is very bitter how you are only cheated everywhere.

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Matthias
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That's it for casinos and streamers

7th Oct. 2018, at 07:26 pm CEST#30
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Oh dear, I can already imagine that my contribution will now arrive like "oil on the fire", because the following certainly sounds very "pro casino".

Therefore, I would like to make it clear that what I am writing now is my personal opinion of the situation and does not express the point of view of GambleJoe in general.

First of all, I'm not a big fan of streamers, especially because I'm always reminded of Calvin, the underage CasinoTest24 Streamer at the time.
Shirox1985 and CasinoDaddy are at least of age and both have been "in the business" for a relatively long time and are known to stream regularly.
Regarding the fact that now both streamers have received the same winning pictures in the livestream:
According to PushGaming, the probability that both players get exactly the same winning pictures is 1:1,300,000.
I think PushGaming's explanation is flawed in some way.

I guess that the chance of this 1600x win for a single player per spin is 1:1,300,000.
However, in my opinion, the chance of this win increases with each spin. I.e. if I do 10 spins, the chance of 1600x is 1:130,000.
If I do 100 spins, the chance is 1:13,000 and if I do 1,000 spins, the chance is theoretically 1:1,300.

So if 2 players play 2,000 spins each, it could very well happen that one, or by chance both, hit exactly the same image with the same win factor.
It is unlikely, but somehow still maybe possible. The fact that there are now 2 streamers, and they have recorded this, gives the matter of course a bitter taste.

As truly as I live and run GambleJoe, I promise you and swear to you that I am not aware of any tactics that the Online Casinos use to
prefer the streamers in terms of "wins". But I am convinced that the streamers get better Bonuses and may not have a max-bet rule.

As for the game "Jammin Jars", I've already talked to Daniel about it "Man, that has so much potential if those wilds fall in the right place..."
We were honestly both pretty excited about the winning possibilities and believed that the symbols would randomly bounce back and forth.
Pushgaming describes it in English as follows: "If a Jam Jar Symbol contributes to a Cluster Win, the symbol will randomly move to an adjacent, vacant position before the following Collapse occurs."
Translation: "If a Jam Jar symbol contributes to a Cluster Win, the symbol will randomly move to an adjacent, vacant position before the following Collapse occurs.

Well, now that I understand, based on the explanation of the English video, that the jumping back and forth of the symbols does not happen randomly, but is already determined at the time of the spin mouse click, the tension is somewhat out. The statement in the game description is error-ridden in my opinion and should rather read
"If the player is lucky and the RNG spits out a high Win factor, then predetermined animations are played to convey to the player that the placement of the symbols is purely random."

The dream of extreme win factors is gone, at least now I know that when I "spin click" there is a possibility that the Random Number Generator can "roll" a high win factor of over 1000x.

I agree with all of you, at the end of the day you still have a strange feeling in your stomach. I'm really curious if and when someone will ever upload a winning picture or video that exactly matches a win I've earned.

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