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Other games of chance: Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

Topic created on 08th May. 2017 | Page: 1 of 9 | Answers: 87 | Views: 17,000
Andrew789
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

8th May. 2017, at 07:45 pm CEST#1
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Hello people

i am registered at lotto.de. There you can play lotto by direct debit, Eurolotto, Keno, Bingo, Glücksspirale and since recently also scratch tickets. I think the latter is a bit dangerous, because you can buy the scratch tickets directly and scratch them up. At least the number is limited on the day. Have thereby lost in 2-3 days about 150 euros. Now I rather leave the fingers of it. From time to time vllt a lot, but actually it's not really worth it

But Lotto fixt also not so like Slots, since one does not play directly the game. You buy a ticket and then have to wait. And the draw has relatively little excitement, I think. Overall, I spend about 25-50 euros a month on Lotto. I think that's still okay.

However never a large profit... Once 4 correct + at that time auxiliary number. Were only approx. 150 euro although the chance was 1 to approx. 20,000. Well but you always think so: Maybe you get someday the big win and have provided

What was your biggest win and what experience do you have?

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Daniel
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

8th May. 2017, at 09:50 pm CEST#2
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Lotto, Scratch cards and state-run Games of chance have the comparatively worst odds. For scratch cards and lotto it is about 50%. That means, if you could play scratch tickets and lotto like Slot machines (20 games per minute), you would lose 50 cents per 1€ ticket on average. That's astonishing, if you compare it:

Machine in online casino & gambling house (payout 95%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 5% house advantage (0,05€) = 60€ average loss per playing hour
Machine in gambling houses & pubs (payout 75%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 25% house advantage (0,25€) = 300€ average loss per gambling hour
Scratch tickets & Lotto (payout 50%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 50% house advantage (0,50€) = 600€ average loss per gaming hour.

Then scratch tickets and lotto still have an extremely high Variance, i.e. most players would lose significantly more than 600€ / hour and very few would clear really blatant (but very few).

The comparison with the gaming arcades is somewhat misleading, since only 12 games of 20 cents each are actually possible on machines in gaming arcades thanks to the betting breaks and booking times. Nevertheless one can state as a conclusion: Before you buy two scratch cards a 1€, you'd better turn Book of Ra 2x to 1€ - makes more sense.

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Anonym

Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

8th May. 2017, at 11:51 pm CEST#3
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Scratch tickets are also offered on some specific cas sites?!
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Rather go to a store and buy there such tickets. Do not know if the online that can then turn so that you never win.

With lotto over the net I would have an even greater sense of insecurity whether I would get the (if finally larger) profit then also paid out.

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Daniel
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

9th May. 2017, at 12:58 pm CEST#4
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Blackwood13 wrote on 08/05/2017 at 23:51: Scratch cards are also offered on some certain cas sites aren't they?!
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Go rather in nen store and buy there such lots. Do not know if the online that can then turn so that you never win.

With lotto over the net I would have an even greater sense of insecurity whether I would get the (if finally larger) profit then also paid out.

It makes more sense to play Scratch cards in Online Casinos (also higher AQ or?). Online casinos or the game developers do not have to turn anything. If a player plays let's say 3 hours per month with 50 cents average stake, then that is at an AQ of about 95% 90 € net revenue per player / month. And that already includes big winners. If a casino has only 1,000 such players, then that is already a monthly profit (before taxes and expenses for employees and Co.) of 90,000€. And that without Manipulation and fraud. A casino that is internationally positioned, but should have significantly more players. If a casino has few players, the chances of winning are not smaller, but if then only the Risk is higher that they bitch at larger payouts (delay, etc.). Many small casinos or casinos that still have few players, therefore, often have a monthly payout limit of, for example, € 10,000 / month. If a casino has bad luck and too little starting capital and has many big winners at the start, this can drive a casino into insolvency (example Casino Kaiser).

Lotto übers Net I would also say: Hands off!

1. It hardly brings any advantages
2. There are extremely many cheats at the start!






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Andrew789
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

10th May. 2017, at 09:05 pm CEST#5
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No need to worry. If you play on lotto.de, it's directly from Lotto. But I don't think it works in every state. But do not know exactly. You also have to identify yourself with your passport beforehand. So absolutely safe everything

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Daniel
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

10th May. 2017, at 10:26 pm CEST#6
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Andrew789 wrote on 10/05/2017 at 21:05: Nah no worries. If you play on lotto.de, it's directly from Lotto. Goes but glaub not in every state. But do not know exactly. You have to identify yourself beforehand with your passport. So absolutely safe everything

Oh, yes, that's clear! I meant with it any third party ...

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Frankiboy0815
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

18th Sep. 2020, at 12:51 pm CEST#7
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Daniel wrote on 08.05.2017 at 21:50: Lotto, Scratch cards and the state Games of chance have the comparatively worst odds. For scratch tickets and lotto it is circa 50%. If you could play scratch tickets and lotto like Slot machines (20 games per minute), you would lose 50 cents per 1€ ticket on average. That's awesome when you compare it:

Machine in online casino & gambling house (payout 95%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 5% house advantage (0,05€) = 60€ average loss per playing hour
Machine in gambling houses & pubs (payout 75%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 25% house advantage (0,25€) = 300€ average loss per playing hour
Scratch tickets & Lotto (payout 50%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 50% house advantage (0,50€) = 600€ average loss per gaming hour.

Then scratch tickets and lotto still have an extremely high Variance, meaning most players would lose significantly more than 600€ / hour and very few would clear really awesome (but very few).

The comparison with the gaming arcades is somewhat misleading, since only 12 games a 20 cents are actually possible at machines in gaming arcades thanks to the betting breaks and booking times. Nevertheless one can state as a conclusion: Before you buy two scratch cards a 1€, you'd better turn Book of Ra 2x to 1€ - makes more sense.

The statement is simply not true...... machine in gambling houses & pubs (payout 75%): 20 games * 60 minutes * 25% house advantage (0.25€) = 300€ average loss per hour of play

The hourly loss is not given in AQ %, otherwise game loss per hour, with the current TR 5 it is a maximum of 20€ per hour player effort on average.
The actual payout rate does not exist since 2006, because the actual game> is the transfer of the credit account to the points / success account... The game ( roller run, cards etv.) is rather animation, where you destroy or multiply your points in a certain game...

therefore, the above statement is nonsense.... especially since one per hour maximum 60 € stake possible....






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RiverSong
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

10th May. 2022, at 03:33 pm CEST#8
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times dug out because it fits halfway, but if it is rather in the --> follow after the 1. july purely should then let me know or shift it simply.

also keno is starting now.
is also something like unrestrained gambling where you can lose suitcase full of money wanted to participate because there are the next 14 days nationwide cars to win (should not be advertising). yes, small chance but car is car

then comes the message:
please note that according to § 6c abs. 5,6 GlüStV we will transfer your personal data as well as your cross-provider Deposit limit to the joint gambling authority of the federal states.

soso, all my personal data incl. shoe size loooooool --> nothing can be done without a check mark, so eat or die. i let it go and sent them an email with the question......

......whether they want to limit soon also the shoe purchase per person there this with some persons high addiction potential brings out. if one has more than 2 pairs of shoes it could come from there already to uncontrolled play äh buying behavior
am curious about the answer.

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gamble1
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

10th May. 2022, at 04:55 pm CEST#9
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 10.05.2022 at 15:33: times dug out because it fits halfway, but if it is rather in the --> follow after the 1. juli pure then let me know or just moves it.

also keno starts now.
is also something like unrestrained gambling where you can lose suitcase full of money wanted to participate because there are the next 14 days nationwide cars to win (should not be advertising). yes, small chance but car is car

then comes the message:
please note that according to § 6c abs. 5,6 GlüStV we will transfer your personal data as well as your cross-provider Deposit limit to the joint gambling authority of the federal states.

soso, all my personal data incl. shoe size loooooool --> nothing can be done without a check mark, so eat or die. i let it go and sent them an email with the question......

......whether they want to limit soon also the shoe purchase per person there this with some persons high addiction potential brings out. if one has more than 2 pairs of shoes it could come from there already to uncontrolled play äh buying behavior
am curious about the answer.

Then that would have to come soon also off-line with the Lotto if one plays at the kiosk around the corner and that would mean then felt each 2 Federal citizen stands in the data base of the authority

If one takes it times completely exactly it goes nevertheless nothing at which the people with their money make why do I need then still the "permission" my money to spend to be allowed and why is it ok that I for 5k in the month parties can throw however gambling is completely bad there it may be only 1k ? Theoretically, we then need for everything an authority and a fixed limit everything can be wasteful and does not necessarily offer added value

If one takes then still the potential safety Risk if everyone who plays only Lotto in such a national Zockerdatenbank stands I look forward already to the future complaints if the data times in a data base emerge and for everyone is observable like much money Hans Jürgen in the gambling uses

Why does DE always come up with such a bottomless nonsense ? In other countries it works also without this whole stuff why do we have to make ourselves with all strength always the international laughing stock ?

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Butterbrezel
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Lotto, Keno, Eurolotto, scratch tickets

10th May. 2022, at 06:21 pm CEST#10
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Typical German kaputtreguliererei. This is how they drive the last players to sites without a German license.

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