Funislive wrote on 05/29/2018 at 12:30 pm: As I said, it was probably a mistake on my part to bring up the topic of streaming.
That wasn't really my point at all.
It probably doesn't matter what the topic is actually about in this forum, the topic of cheating is brought up anyway and in the end that's what it's all about.
I am a bit suspicious about your story but that is for now. What I can assure you of is this: If you already start to gamble with stakes of 5-20€ and want to increase them to have "real thrill" in the free spins, then this will not end well. No matter how disciplined you may be in other financial matters. Gambling has a huge addictive factor and after the initial period, a phase begins where money while gambling becomes less and less the legal tender for you, and more and more pure addictive. I don't know how much money you have but what I know for sure is that people who already had more money than you have lost everything on gambling. So it's a very dangerous hike you're starting here. I would also say that you have had above average luck so far. The normal case is that you Deposit and the whole amount is gone in the end. Everyone should decide for themselves how much they can pay for gambling. The sum should be able to put away. Never should you include a possible win or talk about "investing" etc.. You pay for entertainment and if you are not well entertained because you only lose, you should still not pay in again to somehow create this feeling. That would then already be a strong sign of addiction.
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By the way, I agree with Knochen for once. I am also suspicious. I have heard a lot of things,
but I've never heard anyone complain about the time they spent gambling away a few euros....
Can still remember StarGames times when you could watch there from time to time in the spectator modos the blue man while gambling. That was always something special to watch so one with 20, 25, or 50 euros stakes while playing, because it was just rare that someone played with such stakes. Thought me often "Man how can you turn so high". Nowadays, such stakes are apparently quite normal. Crazy time. Twist a couple of times and a day, week or month's pay goes over the Jordan.
redriver67 wrote on 29.05.2018 at 12:43 pm: Can still remember at StarGames times when you could watch there from time to time in the spectator modos the blue man while gambling. That was always something special to watch so one with 20, 25, or 50 euros stakes while playing, because it was just rare that someone played with such stakes. Thought me often "Man how can you turn so high". Nowadays, such stakes are apparently quite normal. Crazy time. Twist a couple of times and a day, week or month's pay goes over the Jordan.
Yes, I still remember it well. I liked to watch the blue ones. But they usually had so much on them that it was no longer unrealistic. And often I've at least seen how one has gambled away everything, or after a few 50 € turns then went back to 2 €.
Thanks for your contribution. I meant invest more as "invest in fun" just like I invest in other hobbies( Sprit for example) and hope to have fun from it.
I calculated the current monthly limit so that I could lose (from the current situation!) any amount of time without it having an impact. I realize that I must not increase this limit under any circumstances and that can get you in hot water.
What I basically can not understand is the general distrust in this forum, nevertheless I would like to thank you for your contribution, even if you should not believe me.
Ultimately, for me, it's just about being able to take something away from your contributions.
I'm starting to get the feeling that the fun of gaming itself is no longer in the foreground here, but that the casinos are seen as "the bad guys".
Am I correct in this assessment?
And if so, why do people still play at all if they are afraid of being cheated?
To clarify my "strategy" once again here:
I have a fixed maximum monthly egg payment amount.
Once this is reached, I don't Deposit a cent more, regardless of withdrawals, etc.
I definitely see deposited money as lost immediately
I hope for fun and excitement in return for my deposit
stkrie wrote on 05/29/2018 at 12:27: The number of spins many gamblers here also achieve - without significant wins over the years.
@Julian
This discussion had come up once recently.
Many gamblers here don't necessarily have much less spins.
Nevertheless, they also do not come close to such wins, as the.
And according to the mathematics, on which here so large value is attached, all
Streamers should have gone broke long ago. So either it's all quite different,
or the streamers can gamble with "fake" money.
Of all people, the streamers survive all negative phases financially. A coincidence?
Even many extreme gamblers are strangers to such wins. As I said, they get
to the maximum payouts of slots. I have not even managed to do that in 20 years.
And I have made many spins in this time, you can believe me.
And I think all the more extreme gamblers can confirm that here.
So I don't want to put my hand in the fire for anyone. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that as the most successful international casino Streamer group on YouTube and Twitch, they are earning enough to absorb such losses. I think the only thing the casinos give them are the luxurious Bonuses they use for almost every deposit.
And as for the upper part regarding the other gamblers, the core of my statement was finally that just by the "layers" of the troupe it is simply not possible that a normal gambler can invest as much time in it as they do. There will be no gamer who really plays every day 24 hours. So I at least can not imagine that.
I am far from being an extreme gambler, but even I had almost "maximum payouts" of a slot in many games, informing the Win factor (not the stake).
And if you look at all the big wins from the streamers, you just realize that the whole "theoretically" is nothing special. Over 5000x is as good as hardly come one, there I have seen as an example in our community already awesome wins (from the win factor).
Also if you look around on Casinogrounds you will notice that the biggest winning pictures or uploaded videos are from normal users and not from the streamers.
In my opinion there is this "Roshtein effect" that people are always fooled by the high amount won
For example, if Roshtein gets free spins and let's say wins 3,000€. Is in the chat or in the comments everyone hyped and freaks out.
However, if you consider that he plays on 50-100€ stakes, you quickly realize that the free spins have not really paid much in the sense and are therefore nothing special.
So many will of course be envious that you are doing so well and you can play with very high stakes, so take care of a few envious.
Otherwise, everyone here in the forum but very nice and also help.
I have to say that time is really too precious for me and after I have played and lost I am always very angry, first about the money but much more about the precious time.
Then I always say to myself, what could I have done in the time.
I prefer to gamble when I really have time, nothing is more annoying than to have to turn off although it goes well.
That's right, the winning pictures are of regular people. But mostly on very low stakes as I find
find. Still pretty poor for millions of gamblers. Of course, not everyone uploads a picture.
Ok, then we take the troop from Sweden out, and call it times exception, since they earn well.
But it would be possible that they get good money, and still don't have to play with their own
with their own money. Would make even more sense. They do not run
Risk to gamble away their money unnecessarily. And with the stakes would be not exactly little.
Then I wonder how Shirox, for example, does it financially
Can be of course also that the abartig much earn with the Casinos, that I do not believe however.
He has a limited number of viewers
With Roshstein you are completely right. In relation to his stakes, the wins are usually very manageable
manageable
well, there are now enough slots that make a fuss about a tenfold bet win, as if you had won a jackpot
as if you had won a jackpot. Just think younger players then think that this was an extraordinary win
extraordinary win.
@Funislive
A healthy distrust here is actually quite good.
If it is as you say, everything is ok!
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That wasn't really my point at all.
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It probably doesn't matter what the topic is actually about in this forum, the topic of cheating is brought up anyway and in the end that's what it's all about.
I am a bit suspicious about your story but that is for now. What I can assure you of is this: If you already start to gamble with stakes of 5-20€ and want to increase them to have "real thrill" in the free spins, then this will not end well. No matter how disciplined you may be in other financial matters. Gambling has a huge addictive factor and after the initial period, a phase begins where money while gambling becomes less and less the legal tender for you, and more and more pure addictive. I don't know how much money you have but what I know for sure is that people who already had more money than you have lost everything on gambling. So it's a very dangerous hike you're starting here. I would also say that you have had above average luck so far. The normal case is that you Deposit and the whole amount is gone in the end. Everyone should decide for themselves how much they can pay for gambling. The sum should be able to put away. Never should you include a possible win or talk about "investing" etc.. You pay for entertainment and if you are not well entertained because you only lose, you should still not pay in again to somehow create this feeling. That would then already be a strong sign of addiction.
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but I've never heard anyone complain about the time they spent gambling away a few euros....
Then you have completely lost touch with money!
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Yes, I still remember it well. I liked to watch the blue ones. But they usually had so much on them that it was no longer unrealistic. And often I've at least seen how one has gambled away everything, or after a few 50 € turns then went back to 2 €.
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Thanks for your contribution. I meant invest more as "invest in fun" just like I invest in other hobbies( Sprit for example) and hope to have fun from it.
I calculated the current monthly limit so that I could lose (from the current situation!) any amount of time without it having an impact. I realize that I must not increase this limit under any circumstances and that can get you in hot water.
What I basically can not understand is the general distrust in this forum, nevertheless I would like to thank you for your contribution, even if you should not believe me.
Ultimately, for me, it's just about being able to take something away from your contributions.
I'm starting to get the feeling that the fun of gaming itself is no longer in the foreground here, but that the casinos are seen as "the bad guys".
Am I correct in this assessment?
And if so, why do people still play at all if they are afraid of being cheated?
To clarify my "strategy" once again here:
I have a fixed maximum monthly egg payment amount.
Once this is reached, I don't Deposit a cent more, regardless of withdrawals, etc.
I definitely see deposited money as lost immediately
I hope for fun and excitement in return for my deposit
I hope I have explained it understandably
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So I don't want to put my hand in the fire for anyone. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that as the most successful international casino Streamer group on YouTube and Twitch, they are earning enough to absorb such losses. I think the only thing the casinos give them are the luxurious Bonuses they use for almost every deposit.
And as for the upper part regarding the other gamblers, the core of my statement was finally that just by the "layers" of the troupe it is simply not possible that a normal gambler can invest as much time in it as they do. There will be no gamer who really plays every day 24 hours. So I at least can not imagine that.
I am far from being an extreme gambler, but even I had almost "maximum payouts" of a slot in many games, informing the Win factor (not the stake).
And if you look at all the big wins from the streamers, you just realize that the whole "theoretically" is nothing special. Over 5000x is as good as hardly come one, there I have seen as an example in our community already awesome wins (from the win factor).
Also if you look around on Casinogrounds you will notice that the biggest winning pictures or uploaded videos are from normal users and not from the streamers.
In my opinion there is this "Roshtein effect" that people are always fooled by the high amount won
For example, if Roshtein gets free spins and let's say wins 3,000€. Is in the chat or in the comments everyone hyped and freaks out.
However, if you consider that he plays on 50-100€ stakes, you quickly realize that the free spins have not really paid much in the sense and are therefore nothing special.
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So many will of course be envious that you are doing so well and you can play with very high stakes, so take care of a few envious.
Otherwise, everyone here in the forum but very nice and also help.
I have to say that time is really too precious for me and after I have played and lost I am always very angry, first about the money but much more about the precious time.
Then I always say to myself, what could I have done in the time.
I prefer to gamble when I really have time, nothing is more annoying than to have to turn off although it goes well.
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find. Still pretty poor for millions of gamblers. Of course, not everyone uploads a picture.
Ok, then we take the troop from Sweden out, and call it times exception, since they earn well.
But it would be possible that they get good money, and still don't have to play with their own
with their own money. Would make even more sense. They do not run
Risk to gamble away their money unnecessarily. And with the stakes would be not exactly little.
Then I wonder how Shirox, for example, does it financially
Can be of course also that the abartig much earn with the Casinos, that I do not believe however.
He has a limited number of viewers
With Roshstein you are completely right. In relation to his stakes, the wins are usually very manageable
manageable
well, there are now enough slots that make a fuss about a tenfold bet win, as if you had won a jackpot
as if you had won a jackpot. Just think younger players then think that this was an extraordinary win
extraordinary win.
@Funislive
A healthy distrust here is actually quite good.
If it is as you say, everything is ok!
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Thank you for your contribution, I have not yet heard of envious people, so all is well in this respect.
Good that you understand what I mean I thought I'm there completely alone.
Of course the loss of money also hurts me, I would be lying if I would say it itches me 0.
This month I was actually going to set up a "gaming room" but have now put it on hold until June as gaming has eaten into my "fun budget".
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