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Online Casinos in general: Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos (Page 2)

Topic created on 11th Aug. 2023 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 39 | Views: 5,514
Andre
Expert

Tonka bean wrote on 11/08/2023 at 19:52:
And ?


The earth would still continue to rotate.

Just as the forum always rotates around the same axis.

All grumble but continue to play in the dirt stalls and are happy about 200 € win although they have already burned thousands.

All thumbs up although GJ advertises this shit.

Goes in via VPN and plays in real casinos 👍🙏

At least there is once again a new thread

This one also ends up in the morgue like so many threads here.



But find it amusing to always read along and give my two cents









Have we done anything to you? The situation is not great for us either and we are trying to make the best of it.


By the way, your statements don't get any better if you add an , or every time.

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Stromberg
Legend

Donnie wrote on 11/08/2023 at 18:53:

Yes especially the sports sponsorship makes you think. Mannheim, CrazyBuzzer as jersey sponsor. I don't know the sums of money that are being spent on it. But jersey sponsor in the 3.Liga will certainly cost 100k upwards. Who plays there at all? This coal must first be earned again. I have the feeling that there is a lot of money being laundered and the state tolerates it as long as it gets something. Most politicians also have a lot of dirt on the stick. Are all no saints

If I'm not all wrong, stands behind crazybuzzer as well as others Merkur gauselmann... And then money is probably not a thing... At least for marketing at the start.

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Donnie
Expert

Stromberg wrote on 11.08.2023 at 22:12:

If not everything deceives me, stands behind CrazyBuzzer as well as others yes Merkur gauselmann... And then money is probably no thing... At least for marketing to start.

But they also have their fins in everywhere

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Stromberg
Legend

Donnie wrote on 11/08/2023 at 22:15:

But they also have their fins in everywhere

One of the big wins of licensing I guess...

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refucs
Expert
Tonka bean wrote on 11/08/2023 at 19:52:
And ?


The earth would still continue to rotate.

Just as the forum always rotates around the same axis.

All grumble but continue to play in the dirt stalls and are happy about 200 € win although they have already burned thousands.

All thumbs up although GJ advertises this shit.

Goes in via VPN and plays in real casinos 👍🙏

At least there is once again a new thread

This one also ends up in the morgue like so many threads here.



But find it amusing to always read along and give my two cents









Yes ends up in the morgue just like your beautiful full-bodied announced sweepstakes last year...


Amusing become such freds only by people like you, there you are right.

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existenzrippa
Rookie
The real Player protection is that the fun is zero. A feed win in the 1st spin (usually around 5-10x) and then, (no rarity) 70-80 deadspins in a row, then free spins that spit 0-20x.

These 70-80 deadspins are at 96%rtp devices at least still lined with small wins and you had at least ne adequate playing time for his money and the game was not so transparent.

In addition, there is this 0.05 € tax per € bet.

Assuming you play with won 100€, be sure that there will not come more. Because it is not real money, on which nevertheless per 1€ this tax is deducted. The casinos would go bankrupt if they gave you a long playing time with won money. That's why "machines" still a win eat up everything without a chance to win more. This has nothing to do with the much advertised "fair play".


Would one with the won 100€ manage to convert 10k (which was still possible at 96%rtp), that would be 500€ tax!!!!

That means 10 players would have to lose 1000€ to finance the playing time of the 100€ winning player.

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Stromberg
Legend

existenzrippa wrote on 12.08.2023 at 21:46: The real Player protection lies in the fact that the fun is zero. A feed win in the 1st spin (usually around 5-10x) and then, (no rarity) 70-80 deadspins in a row, then free spins that spit 0-20x.

These 70-80 deadspins are at 96%rtp devices at least still lined with small wins and you had at least ne adequate playing time for his money and the game was not so transparent.

In addition, there is this 0.05 € tax per € bet.

Assuming you play with won 100€, be sure that there will not come more. Because it is not real money, on which nevertheless per 1€ this tax is deducted. The casinos would go bankrupt if they gave you a long playing time with won money. That's why "machines" still a win eat up everything without a chance to win more. This has nothing to do with the much advertised "fair play".


Would one with the won 100€ manage to convert 10k (which was still possible at 96%rtp), that would be 500€ tax!!!!

That means 10 players would have to lose 1000€ to finance the playing time of the 100€ winning player.

So 70 dead spins in a row I never had...

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existenzrippa
Rookie
Stromberg wrote on 12.08.2023 at 22:00:

So 70 dead spins in a row I never had...

Fruitinator, Knights Life, Golden Gate Bridge, Book of Ra 10 etc. it is often like that. I'm not saying it's always like this, but if the 1st spin is a win, it's usually followed by a min 20deadspin in a row. i have had 70 in a row several times.


The normal player gives just after the 1st win the slot a chance. That's what most people die of. That is psychology. This is even more perverse than before the permanent 2 Scatter where the third always a too low or too high stuck.

84% RTP is not equal (12% less RTP) with 96% RTP because the tax is always 0.05€ per 1€

Example: you win in a Curacao casino with 10€ Deposit after hours with ups and downs 1000€. Then the casino loses 990€.

If you do that in a German casino, after 200 spins on 1€/spin only the tax would be satisfied with your deposit! A casino would not even have a win. But since they also want to nibble from the cake, the slot, no matter which, gives you no winning pictures.

Therefore, it is not possible to have up and downs, unless the case in my above post occurs.

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existenzrippa
Rookie
What I meant to say is:

A(non-taxed) casino wins because of the lower RTP less than 100. One loses everything one wins a little, the casino wins a little.

In Germany: One loses everything, the one who wins something and makes a few spins also loses everything, the state wins almost everything and the operator gets the few crumbs.

The more you gamble, the more the state wins, because 0,05€ is SAFE with every spin. This is not the case in 96% booths.

I hope that it is now understandable.

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Marieangels
Amateur

Tonka bean wrote on 11.08.2023 at 16:37: It's your own fault who plays at these booths.

GJ is playing hard

How often do we have to mention that the regulations do not serve the player but the state and the gambling houses ?

Already ne impudence to offer something like that.

But the booths seem to run, otherwise some would be already closed

So it looks. The state earns now with, then remains for the player nothing more. Boycott is the only way. They don't get my money anymore.

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Falko
Icon

existenzrippa wrote on 08/12/2023 at 10:41 pm: What I meant to say is:

A(non taxed) casino wins because of lower RTP less than 100. one loses everything one wins a little, the casino wins a little.

In Germany: One loses everything, the one who wins something and makes a few spins also loses everything, the state wins almost everything and the operator gets the few crumbs.

The more you gamble, the more the state wins, because 0,05€ is SAFE with every spin. This is not the case in 96% booths.

I hope that it is now understandable.

But only if everything is real money, the state earns on every spin? At least when the RTP were still at 97%, the tax was deducted directly from each spin. So you could track that well, how exactly the taxes were calculated. And as long as you were in the Bonus money, no tax was deducted. But now in the German Spielotheken, you can no longer see if that is still the same. Because now simply the RTP was set significantly lower, so as to completely hide this additional tax. Better I found the old model an RTP of 97% and for this just per spin to attract this tax in addition. Since you had at least with bonus money even higher chances of winning, than how it feels now in German licensed casinos.

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Tonkabohne
Top Member
Donnie wrote on 11.08.2023 at 19:58: You don't need a VPN to play in real casinos. You can also play at German and real casinos. Why are you even still here if you detest GJ because they promote German casinos?

meant also via VPN on GambleJoe

Because it's fun to read and comment here.

But not fulfilling my life, as with some here

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RebellYell
Top Member
What surprises me, that with the German license no minimum RTP was specified. With the MGA it is but also so regulated that a certain RTP may not be fallen short of!

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roccoammo11
Expert
so i can only recommend everyone to play slots at bet@home if you want to play somewhere legal. the game selection is very very small but the rtp is quite different from other casinos with german license. so of course i don't win all the time there but even though it's maybe just 4 - 5% rtp more at bah i definitely have more fun playing there. but assume that these will also be lowered as soon as the slot offer is a bit bigger again...

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Anonym

Tonka bean wrote on 08/13/2023 at 5:08 pm:
meant by this also via VPN on GambleJoe

Because it's fun to read and comment here.

But not fulfilling my life, as with some here


Do you really not notice that you just make yourself ridiculous here, and draw an incredibly sad picture of yourself and your character?

You have had here from the day of your registration again and again slight misfires - given. Your hammy action with the lottery? Also no matter, but instead of somehow "normal" to apologize, you first start to rumzulamentieren and when you noticed that no one itches here you started to rumzukeilen here.

If everything and everyone at GJ is so sh***e, stupid and crazy... Hey, feel free, log off and look for another troll area..

YOU will certainly not cry a tear here,

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