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Online Casinos in general: Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

Topic created on 11th Aug. 2023 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 39 | Views: 6,798
hustlehoff
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 04:06 pm CEST#1
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I have seen many things, but the RTP of 84.55% at Wunderino beats everything at the moment. Are they going completely crazy now or what? I really feel sorry for the people who fall for it and don't have that much of a clue. It's really hard to understand how Germany can legally declare an RTP value that should actually be illegal and should be considered a Player protection measure. Something seems to be wrong here.

There must be some legal means to take action against something like this. You are literally forced to accept this questionable offer if you don't want to make yourself liable to prosecution. I'm really shocked... I mean, I don't play there - it was free spins that I received because I deposited 10 euros at some point and occasionally get free spins. But this is just unbelievable. I just can't fathom how this can be legal when it's obviously the opposite. In other places, such an RTP value would be considered fraud and assume that the Slot machines were rigged. 😆

It would be useful if Gamblejoe created a separate thread for these questionable practices to be discussed. Otherwise these posts often get lost in the "gripe" or "chit-chat" corner, I find.

hustlehoff

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Donnie
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 04:13 pm CEST#2
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My experience, the RTP does not matter with them often "ran" the 84s "better" than the 90s. But all scrap

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T0uchTheSky
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 04:20 pm CEST#3
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hustlehoff wrote on 11.08.2023 at 16:06: I have already seen many things, but the RTP of 84.55% at Wunderino currently surpasses everything. Are they going completely crazy now or what? I really feel sorry for the people who fall for it and don't have that much of a clue. It's really hard to understand how Germany can legally declare an RTP value that should actually be illegal and should be considered a Player protection measure. Something seems to be wrong here.

There must be some legal means to take action against something like this. You are literally forced to accept this questionable offer if you don't want to make yourself liable to prosecution. I'm really shocked... I mean, I don't play there - it was free spins that I received because I deposited 10 euros at some point and occasionally get free spins. But this is just unbelievable. I just can't fathom how this can be legal when it's obviously the opposite. In other places, such an RTP value would be considered fraud and assume that the Slot machines were rigged. 😆

It would be useful if Gamblejoe created a separate thread for these questionable practices to be discussed. Otherwise these posts often get lost in the "gripe" or "chit-chat" corner, I find.

T0uchTheSky



84.55% is ok, have you ever looked at sunmaker, 84.18%. I just say, thanks to the DE license, you have all the good casinos like Sunmaker, Betsson, Videoslots etc. kaputt regulated. Because of player protection blabla.


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upola
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 04:32 pm CEST#4
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Has the legislator actually set a lower RTP limit or can everyone do it as he wants.

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Donnie
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 04:34 pm CEST#5
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I miss sites like sunmaker or Cherrycasino at normal times. There you could wager your Deposit bonus with sports betting AND slots. If you started with slots and it did not run umgeswitcht on sports betting or vice versa. Do such Bonuses still exist nowadays? I always had my biggest wins on sports betting sites with casino. But the form of today turned off

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Tonkabohne
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 04:37 pm CEST#6
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It's their own fault who plays at these booths.

GJ plays along vigorously

How often do we have to mention that the regulations do not serve the player but the state and the gambling houses?

Already ne impudence to offer something like that.

But the booths seem to run, otherwise some would be already closed again

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Donnie
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11th Aug. 2023, at 04:48 pm CEST#7
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Do you always have to involve GJ? It's still a company that has to make a win and pay its employees. If GJ was not allowed to advertise for German casinos, they could close the store and the community would be history, at least in our country. GJ also gives something back to the community, please do not forget

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Hidaruma
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 06:01 pm CEST#8
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German booths are crap in many respects? The TE's contribution doesn't tell us anything new. Just don't play there and that's it.

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moralischverwerflich
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11th Aug. 2023, at 06:34 pm CEST#9
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Clearly lower rtp, but at normal Slot machines it is also only at least 60%, which is the legal lower limit. Therefore, the rtp is even higher than in the spielos.
You have to consider, in the German Online Casinos are not many players on the road, the technical and personnel effort but almost the same as in a casino where people from all over the world play. In addition, there is the tax and everything else in fixed costs such as marketing, etc.. This has to be financed. And this is only possible through a lower rtp.
I am not a friend of German online casino and invest there not a single cent and do not want to take the in protection these dirt stalls, but otherwise can not finance such a thing so that one also more than a good average wage at the end remains hanging.
Is already a difference whether 25,000 players x-anywhere in the month in the casino verballern can or only max. 1000€. And I dare to doubt that even a single German online casino has more than 10,000 active players.
Think about it

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Donnie
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 06:53 pm CEST#10
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Milo1 wrote on 11.08.2023 at 18:34: Clearly lower rtp, but at normal Slot machines it is also only at least 60%, which is the legal lower limit. From therefore from the rtp still higher as in the spielos.
You have to consider, in the German Online Casinos are not many players on the road, the Technical and Personal effort but almost the same as in a casino where people from all over the world play. In addition, there is the tax and everything else in fixed costs such as marketing, etc.. This has to be financed. And this is only possible through a lower rtp.
I am not a friend of German online casino and invest there not a single cent and do not want to take the in protection these dirt stalls, but otherwise can not finance such a thing so that one also more than a good average wage at the end remains hanging.
Is already a difference whether 25,000 players x-anywhere in the month in the casino verballern can or only max. 1000€. And I dare to doubt that even a single German online casino has more than 10,000 active players.
Think about it

Yes, especially the sports sponsorship makes you think. Mannheim, CrazyBuzzer as a jersey sponsor. I don't know the sums of money involved. But jersey sponsor in the 3.Liga will certainly cost 100k upwards. Who plays there at all? This coal must first be earned again. I have the feeling that there is a lot of money being laundered and the state tolerates it as long as it gets something. Most politicians also have a lot of dirt on the stick. Are all no saints

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gamble1
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 07:03 pm CEST#11
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Milo1 wrote on 11.08.2023 at 18:34: Clearly lower rtp, but at normal Slot machines it is also only at least 60%, which is the legal lower limit. From therefore from the rtp still higher as in the spielos.
You have to consider, in the German Online Casinos are not many players on the road, the Technical and Personal effort but almost the same as in a casino where people from all over the world play. In addition, there is the tax and everything else in fixed costs such as marketing, etc.. This has to be financed. And this is only possible through a lower rtp.
I am not a friend of German online casino and invest there not a single cent and do not want to take the in protection these dirt stalls, but otherwise can not finance such a thing so that one also more than a good average wage at the end remains hanging.
Is already a difference whether 25,000 players x-anywhere in the month in the casino verballern can or only max. 1000€. And I dare to doubt that even a single German online casino has more than 10,000 active players.
Think about it

In gambling houses there is no quota at all but even there the machines settle at a higher value and it runs better than in all DE OC's together


What DE has hingerotzt there online is simply fraud on the player and you should go against it with a petition before then will probably be clear what 100% of the people do not want

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Sebi123
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 07:38 pm CEST#12
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I also find it all ridiculous how it was all implemented in the end, unfortunately.
Online casinos to legalize in principle had long been overdue because people have played even then simply although it was always preached it is illegal.

But then ultimately only a few selected Online Casinos are legal according to whitelist is not well done in my opinion.

Man should have then but also say if it is now once legalized that ALL ONLINE CASINOS are legal and not only those with a German license is but only my opinion.

Now provides the everything but only there for the right to the "other" casinos evades or? What the state actually wanted to prevent...or to proceed against the casinos that are really unserious

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Tonkabohne
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 07:52 pm CEST#13
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Donnie wrote on 11.08.2023 at 16:48: If GJ was not allowed to advertise for German casinos, they could close the store and the community would be history, at least in our country. GJ also gives something back to the community, please don't forget

And ?


The earth would still continue to rotate.

Just as the forum always rotates around the same axis.

All grumble but continue to play in the dirt stalls and are happy about 200 € win although they have already burned thousands.

All thumbs up although GJ advertises this shit.

Goes in via VPN and plays in real casinos 👍🙏

At least there is once again a new thread

This one also ends up in the morgue like so many threads here.



But find it amusing to always read along and give my two cents








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Stromberg
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Wunderino RTP 84.55% WTF? And generally German license / casinos

11th Aug. 2023, at 07:58 pm CEST#14
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Sebi123 wrote on 11.08.2023 at 19:38: I also find it all ridiculous how it was ultimately all implemented unfortunately.
Online casinos to legalize in principle had long been overdue because people have played even then simply although it was always preached it is illegal.

But then ultimately only a few selected Online Casinos are legal according to whitelist is not well done in my opinion.

Man should have then but also say if it is now once legalized that ALL ONLINE CASINOS are legal and not only those with a German license is but only my opinion.

Now provides all but there for the right to the "other" casinos evades or what the state actually wanted to prevent...or to proceed against the casinos are really unserious

That makes no sense. The license is not simply a button like "askgamblers tested" or something, but says that the casino with license is legal. And consequently the others of course not.

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Donnie
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11th Aug. 2023, at 07:58 pm CEST#15
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You don't need a VPN to play in real casinos. You can also play at German and real casinos. Why are you still here if you hate GJ because they promote German casinos?

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